Uche

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Originally Posted by Rjk

I'd rather see him coming on with 15 minutes to go in a game we need a goal, than James Collins tbh.

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Possible that he goes in the summer?

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Originally Posted by Rjk

I guess he does it with the younger ones, because he wants them to toughen up and raise their level.
If a loaned player isnt performing then we just won't loan him again presumably

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I just think of you are going to go with the straight talking, no nonsense approach then you should call out some senior players too otherwise it makes you look a bit of bully when you’re only doing it to the young lads.

Take the Bournemouth game for example. He defended Bacuna and called Isaak a hinderance. Surely going down to 10 man because Bacuna assaulted a player was more of a hinderance!!!

Just because Uche is on loan shouldn’t matter, we are paying his wages and he’s our player for another 3 months.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

I just think of you are going to go with the straight talking, no nonsense approach then you should call out some senior players too otherwise it makes you look a bit of bully when you’re only doing it to the young lads.

Just because he’s on loan shouldn’t matter, we are paying his wages and he’s our players for another 3 months.

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It also comes down to what questions he's being asked as well I guess, the local media are always going to be more interested in our young prospects than an on loan player, so they're probably going to ask him more often about their performances

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Possible that he goes in the summer?

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It was a poor signing. Another that’s represented by USM.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Possible that he goes in the summer?

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I wouldn't be surprised

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Originally Posted by Rjk

I guess he does it with the younger ones, because he wants them to toughen up and raise their level.
If a loaned player isnt performing then we just won't loan him again presumably

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I've been pretty one sided in defending defending SM against things he's said because I believed in what I was saying.

He hooked Watters because he wasn't doing his job (his words) and he wants points on the board so made changes to affect the game positively..
Uche, our player or not had 2 golden opportunities to do something productive and change a draw into a win, he made the wrong one both times, SM should definitely lay it out fair and why not the same way he's done it to our youngsters?

You can't just be a straight talker when it suits you.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

It was a poor signing. Another that’s represented by USM.

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He was a free - presumably intended to be backup for Kieffer Moore, we've had a lot worse signings, but I don't rate him, and it seems the manager doesn't either.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

It was a poor signing. Another that’s represented by USM.

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He's not what we need is he!!

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

He's not what we need is he!!

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I think he’s a league one player. Had a good season with Luton but at 32 his best years are behind him.
Reminds me of the Rickie Lambert signing.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

It also comes down to what questions he's being asked as well I guess, the local media are always going to be more interested in our young prospects than an on loan player, so they're probably going to ask him more often about their performances

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If that’s Mark Harris or Max Watters who make those poor choices yesterday SM is saying we should have had all 3 points if they had made better decisions wether he is prompted or not.

Personally, unless someone is fully walking around like they don’t give a shit like a Bacuna I don’t want to see anyone called out in public. I don’t think long term it helps. By all means lay into them behind closed doors if they are not doing what was asked of them but I think he goes too far with the public criticism on times.

I'd be very surprised if Morison doesn't call him out on the two chances he had to lay the ball off. I'd assume the squad would watch the game together on Mondays these days no?

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Originally Posted by Rjk

He was a free - presumably intended to be backup for Kieffer Moore, we've had a lot worse signings, but I don't rate him, and it seems the manager doesn't either.

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A free yes but it’s still a wage for two years. We are
probably going to have to pay off part contract if we are to cut our losses in summer because I don’t see him getting another championship move.

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

I'd be very surprised if Morison doesn't call him out on the two chances he had to lay the ball off. I'd assume the squad would watch the game together on Mondays these days no?

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You would hope he would speak to him to explain how selfish he was I’m talking about lambasting him in public which he has done to others.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

You would hope he would speak to him to explain how selfish he was I’m talking about lambasting him in public which he has done to others.

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Maybe's reached the conclusion that two wrongs don't make a right.

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

Maybe's reached the conclusion that two wrongs don't make a right.

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I hope so, I want to be able to like a Cardiff city manager for a change :hehe:

I still harbour irrational feelings towards Russell Slade and he left years ago and don’t get me started on Colin :hehe:

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

I hope so, I want to be able to like a Cardiff city manager for a change :hehe:

I still harbour irrational feelings towards Russell Slade and he left years ago and don’t get me started on Colin :hehe:

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Me too. And I'm actually still disappointed in myself for thinking Colin was OK for a time:hehe:

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

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Me too. And I'm actually still disappointed in myself for thinking Colin was OK for a time:hehe:

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if Uche is available for 750k in the summer I'd be fine with us signing him as an option from the bench - especially if we could offload Collins for a similar amount to someone.

Don't want either as a first choice striker though

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Originally Posted by Rjk

if Uche is available for 750k in the summer I'd be fine with us signing him as an option from the bench - especially if we could offload Collins for a similar amount to someone.

Don't want either as a first choice striker though

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Clubs are skint post covid there is absolutely no chance we are paying 750k for Uche or getting 750k for Collins. That is delusional I’m afraid.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Clubs are skint post covid there is absolutely no chance we are paying 750k for Uche or getting 750k for Collins. That is delusional I’m afraid.

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Middlesborough wanted 750k for him in January- well that is what was reported anyway

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Originally Posted by Rjk

if Uche is available for 750k in the summer I'd be fine with us signing him as an option from the bench - especially if we could offload Collins for a similar amount to someone.

Don't want either as a first choice striker though

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I’m glad you’re not managing my finances

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

I'd be very surprised if Morison doesn't call him out on the two chances he had to lay the ball off. I'd assume the squad would watch the game together on Mondays these days no?

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From what Morison has said previously there is a full squad review of the previous match - clips prepared by the analysts covering the good, bad and ugly. There are also individual review meetings with one player and members of the coaching team - of the sort he has described with Davies, Colwill and Watters.

I hope the same approach is used for older team members and loan players - backed up by tailored coaching sessions. Morison may feel that there is more value in investing time and effort in younger players who will be here next season and beyond, and who are learning and developing in front of us, but most of the squad are capable of better performances than they have normally produced this season. Vaulks, Nelson and even Bacuna have had games (half games in Bacuna's case this season) where they have played well - but then they lose concentration, play to their weaknesses not strengths, start making soft decisions, or (criminally) stop trying.

They all have an A game and if they produced it more often, despite their limitations, most fans would back them - not slaughter them on message boards. Morison doesn't have to publicly 'call them out' (not for the academy graduates either), but he cannot let it go either.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

Middlesborough wanted 750k for him in January- well that is what was reported anyway

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What Boro want and what they will get from us are two very different valuations I would imagine. We haven’t got a pot to piss in, we won’t be spending 750k on a back up striker and there certainly won’t be any clubs prepared to pay 750k for James Collins.
He was a free last year and now can’t get in our squad so how you think we could get 750k for him I don’t know? A spot of Sunday lunchtime drinking maybe?

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Originally Posted by Rjk

if Uche is available for 750k in the summer I'd be fine with us signing him as an option from the bench - especially if we could offload Collins for a similar amount to someone.

Don't want either as a first choice striker though

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You're kidding right? You keep going on about how tight money is at the club but you'd be happy signing Ikpeazu for 750k?

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Originally Posted by City123

You're kidding right? You keep going on about how tight money is at the club but you'd be happy signing Ikpeazu for 750k?

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Bonkers