Won't make the slightest difference if we stop anyway, why don't they go to China, USA, India, Russia, Japan, Germany, Iran,South Korea, Saudi Arabia, and Indonesia, if they want to make any impact at all!Quote:
Originally Posted by bobh
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Won't make the slightest difference if we stop anyway, why don't they go to China, USA, India, Russia, Japan, Germany, Iran,South Korea, Saudi Arabia, and Indonesia, if they want to make any impact at all!Quote:
Originally Posted by bobh
But the latest polls seem to show that Starmer is losing ground in the old Red Wall constituencies. Makes no sense for either lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
100 new North Sea oil and gas licences
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-66357043
And?Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
The sad thing is that you could add at least another 50 countries to that list. I’ve been very fortunate to have had a globally based job and there are few nations as advanced and considerate as the UK. The old Eastern bloc, the Balkans, India, even Australia are 50-60 years behind in some instances.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
They'll be happy about another 100 licences!Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
Can't really get my head around extracting the carbon dioxide and storing it under the North Sea, it sounds expensive.
I sometimes feel guilty for taking so many flights around the world but the irony is that I end up seeing other countries that are belching out such a gargantuan amount of pollution that it becomes evident that my forgoing the pleasure wouldn't really make the slightest difference in the great scheme of things.
I'm no China, my old China.
People who say that it's India, China, etc who need to sort themselves out for there to be any kind of meaningful impact are right.
But I can also imagine their argument would be that the UK population is equivalent to just two or three of their cities - if a small country like the UK can't manage anything near net zero, then why should they when it's much harder? Once the UK has walked the walk, then it can talk the talk.
The solution needs co-operation and us humans aren't great at that. It's not easy to be optimistic.
Nice thought but you can't seriously expect the Chinese and Russians and 90% of the rest of the World to cooperate and be fair, just look at how Europe reacted when we Brexit-ed.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
I think we are doomed, we could slow things down a bit but most Countries will put themselves first.
I'm saying I don't expect them to co-operate when they can point out that a country with about 5% of their population can't even do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
The UK is not on the agenda or radar of the likes of China or India, if anything it’s giving these countries the advantage and leverage over those countries trying todo the right thing. Just take Lithium mining as an example. Predominantly globally owned by China but conveniently located in other countries desperate for the money, to serve markets like the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Yes, you're right, but even if we did they wouldn't give a toss, you can't even stop them invading other Countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
This is quite an interesting article on renewable energy in China
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-energy-leader
can we really trust the Chinese on anything the report ( while I know this specific report is by a US based NGO )Quote:
Originally Posted by neilw65
https://fb.watch/mdIcemSONF/
Nice offices
It's a cult.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
FOLLOW THE MONEY.
Leading member of Just Stop Oil is revealed to be sitting on an estimated £1million pension pot from... ShellQuote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
:sherlock:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...pot-Shell.html
Just Stop Oil putting hanging up the tomato soup and orange powder..
https://news.sky.com/story/just-stop...ction-13336484
It's because Trump has cornered the market in orange powder.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Ha, he's ground the competition out of business. Classic tacticQuote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
I think so, China have been making very impressive strides with the transition to renewable energy for years - they consistently overachieve their targets whereas we always miss ours.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
They are also doing that at the same time of lifting millions of people out of poverty / subsistence farming every year and into their burgeoning middle class.
I honestly have more confidence in them meeting their net zero target of 2060 with a peak in 2030 than the UK meeting our target of 2050
Farmers blocking the streets .....fine upstanding mostly tory voters .....no farmers no food.....tally ho
Just stop oil , extinction rebellion .......dirty smelly left wing scum stopping us good sorts going to work !
No planet
We are ****ed
Got it in one 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
No, the difference is that one group does it legally, in arranged protests. The others don't and they vandalize others property.
Thats the difference!
Nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Loads of farmers protests since the Reeves budget have been ‘illegal’ and resulted in blocked roads and massive disruption - just like climate protestors.
The only difference is that the Tractor boys and girls don’t normally glue themselves to the tarmac, and get far more sympathetic treatment from the constabulary.