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It doesn't really matter who is in power. The elite is the elite and they're all implicated in some way and ultimately cover each other's backs. Not forgetting the Royal Family of course. Once they start unravelling the string, who knows what will come out of all this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
...is the right answer 👍 the rich and powerful work to a different set of rulesQuote:
Originally Posted by stevo
This is the situation as I understand it - not what I want it to be, as I'd love all that information to be used to punish whoever was genuinely involved, no matter who they are. But this is why I think the democrats didn't release it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
Firstly, it's not for Biden to order their release, as the president shouldn't overstep his bounds into the judiciary. The president doesn't control investigations and shouldn't be able to order the DOJ to do this or that. As far as I know, Biden never promised to release them while Trump did, hence the backlash. Biden followed these rules, not realising that the rules have changed (or don't really exist now) and probably thinking that Trump wouldn't be getting back in and it would all die down. Similar to how Biden persisted with Garland and wasted their four years.
Secondly, and probably more importantly, this sort of information is never normally just released by law enforcement. They would use it to build cases and prosecute - the fact that none of the DOJs have done this is shameful, but I can't think of any times when something like this was released to the public and press to sift through. But you do need this process because there are inevitably going to be innocent names in those files as well as the guilty ones, of various degrees of guilt. Is at least part of the reason that no indictments are forthcoming because it's powerful people involved? Almost certainly yes, and that applies for both blues and reds here.
I don’t disagree with any of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Horrible murky world.
Indeed, Trump did promise to release those files though.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
I find it mad that he did, and that Trump Jr and others pushed for it to be released when he's so obviously part of it. I guess they just relied on short memories and being able to flood the news cycle when they needed to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Show us all the Epstein client list now!!! Why would anyone protect those scum bags? <br><br>Ask yourselves this question daily and the answer becomes very apparent!! <a href="https://t.co/FU8KC2Lg44">https://t.co/FU8KC2Lg44</a></p>— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) <a href="https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1677715945458921473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
Your grasp of reality is slowly slipping away :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Why engage in discussions based on false premises with people who are susceptible to narrative engineering when events are unfolding in real-time?Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
I don't think anyone wanted a discussion with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
It was a simple question - maybe too simple?
You chose to ignore it - as usual.
No big deal.
Although helpful to know that your statement - that Paul questioned - was nothing but a false premise.
There is no need to speculate on what is happening right now, just open your eyes and watch it in real-time.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Just like he promised he’d spill the beans about the NJ drones and then dished out blatant liesQuote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
That seems to have quietened down a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
I know that you took an interest.
Are they still prevalent, but not reported on as much?
Honestly, it is very difficult for me to believe or or be surprised at so many things now.
AI is terrifying and the fact that you have to ask if anything is AI generated really saddens me.
It will only get worse with timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
Do You Speak English ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
You have an uncanny ability to be confused by common words arranged in sentences to convey meaning.
You were not being asked to speculate on 'what is happening right now' (!).
You were asked to explain or justify a comment you made about other posters and what you (ironically) suggested was their gullibility.
You have since done your familiar impression of a barrel of eels with half their IQ. (That is IQ, Heath! Don't ignore the I :hehe:)
DOJ political appointee is going to see Ghislaine for an emergency meeting. She desperately wants to get out. I wonder if she will:
a) heavily and accurately implicate Trump and meet the same end as Jeff; or
b) exonerate Trump and find her sentence commuted in a few months.
Who knows what will happen!
That is correct, they will either learn the hard way, or just like Lardy & Cyril they will forever be in denial. It's probably best to get things right in the first place, as it saves a lot of bother later on.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Maybe Trump wants a Maxwell to implicate Murdoch in revenge for the WSJ stories?Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Maybe Trump wants her to endorse Pizzagate and unendorse Russiagate?
Trump has screwed up his attempts to close down the Epstein story so he needs another focus (not him)?
Maybe it is part of an attempt to say the Epstein scandal was not as bad as reported - and Ms Maxwell has been harshly treated - so Don in all those photos is not news?
Maybe it is all white noise.
Let's just 'open our eyes and watch it in real time' as Gluey advises when deflecting really hard!
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The only people who believe Trump is implicated, are the people who donÂ’t know the Trump/Epstein timeline:
2005: Trump bans Epstein from all Trump properties for hitting on underaged girl.
2006: Epstein arrested in FL after Trump helped victims go after Epstein.
2008: Epstein convicted on minimal charges and 18 month sentence from Bush-appointed judge and let off the hook by Clinton-allied FBI.
2008-2016: Obama and the Dems did absolutely nothing about Epstein. The media didn’t touch it. It was a “conspiracy theory”.
2017: Less than 3 weeks after inauguration, Trump signs EO 13773, targeting “Transnational criminal organizations and preventing criminal trafficking”. It was one of the first things Trump did as POTUS. Trump targeted not just Epstein’s operation, but others like it around the world.
2019: TrumpÂ’s DOJ arrests Epstein, seizes his island, throws him in jail for crimes against children.
2020: TrumpÂ’s DOJ arrests Maxwell, throws her in jail for crimes against children.
2021-2024: Dems under Biden donÂ’t say a word about Epstein.
Anyone who is spreading that Trump is implicated in crimes related to Epstein, is simply proving they are ignorant to the entire situation and timeline. Trump is not EpsteinÂ’s buddy. Trump used the full force of the US government to take Epstein out, shut down his operation, seized his island, and threw his ass and jail.
Trump has been after Epstein for 20 years. After Trump found out the monster that he was, Trump knew what he had to do.
Trump is EpsteinÂ’s #1 enemy.
I love a good timeline.
This one (not from X) goes with Trump and Epstein falling out over a property deal. That doesn't match the laughable MAGA Swamp version that has Trump disgusted at Epstein's behaviour towards girls!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesb...iance-barriers
So, assuming you’re right, why is Trump’s Government so reluctant in 2025 to publish documents that they were all for publishing back in February? If the Democrats were behaving in such a way , you’d be yelling “cover up” and you’d, almost certainly, be correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
That’s the best bit, I asked him a question about a matter he’d raised himself - he’d set the criteria, so it couldn’t be a catch question and yet he still evaded and wriggled. I could have asked him is this July and he wouldn’t have given me a straight answer :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Why do you persevere with him, TOBW? We all know his behaviour by now and by taking his bait endlessly just encourages him to continue in that mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Things have quietened down and there was nothing AI about it. It was an incredible run of events that bizarrely got very little coverage in mainstream media, particularly outside of the US. NewsNation on the other hand were dishing out daily reports.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
Rather than hijack this thread, I'll respond to the Drones thread with a summary of what happened.