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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Ingurlund players have learnt how to cheat
There was a clear dive in the first half for the free kick outside the box
It's only cheating when the foreigners do it
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
Foden is like the invisible man so far.
Southgate has got to make more use off his talent.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
It does look like they are playing with the shackles on .
BUT , when they stretched their legs it was BOOM , mark of a top side.
I think Gareth Southgate keeps them conservative , if it wins the tournament he will be hailed a genius manager .
I would rather see them be a little more cavalier with the talent on show , somehow I doubt I have ever been a consideration of the English FA .
If Southgate is keeping them conservative, then I’d sack him tonight. They aren’t good enough to adopt those tactics.
A decent team would piss all over them tonight.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Foden is like the invisible man so far.
Southgate has got to make more use off his talent.
Awkward, I s’pose, attempting to fit talented players into an XI, when they play in similar positions as each other for their clubs.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
If Southgate is keeping them conservative, then I’d sack him tonight. They aren’t good enough to adopt those tactics.
A decent team would piss all over them tonight.
Those young Germans would pose them a few problems.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
If Southgate is keeping them conservative, then I’d sack him tonight. They aren’t good enough to adopt those tactics.
A decent team would piss all over them tonight.
They may well win the whole thing but they didn't look great tonight
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
Not the best game of the tournament so far.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
Better teams will cut through that defence with ease.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
There was a clear dive in the first half for the free kick outside the box
It's only cheating when the foreigners do it
England bought free kicks all second half.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Not the best game of the tournament so far.
England were poor. Slow in possession, Kane was bullied, couldn't get saka in the game 2nd half, Serbia got much higher up the pitch. If Serbia had that bit of quality in the final third this would have been a different result.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
They'll have to do a lot better than that if they want to win it. Early days though.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
England were poor. Slow in possession, Kane was bullied, couldn't get saka in the game 2nd half, Serbia got much higher up the pitch. If Serbia had that bit of quality in the final third this would have been a different result.
And there are a few teams in this tournament who have that bit of quality, they’ll need to up their game considerably to have a successful campaign.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
"The most talented squad in the tournament" managed 3 shots on target. Lucky 3 points. No way will it be coming home.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
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Originally Posted by
Alfresco
"The most talented squad in the tournament" managed 3 shots on target. Lucky 3 points. No way will it be coming home.
It’s too early to say. Anyone think Argentina would win the World Cup after losing their first game to Saudi ?
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
Yes I'm biased but I don't think I've watched a tournament winner tonight. England were on top for the first 30 minutes but from then on it was mostly all Serbia.
Foden was awful. Maybe he lacks confidence without his Man City chums around. Kane was like a big girl's blouse, falling down every time an opponent went near him. For me Declan Rice stood out, an excellent defensive midfield performance and Bellingham played OK too. Other than that, very average and in the end Serbia can consider themselves unlucky not to have come away with a draw.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
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Originally Posted by
Moodybluebird
Serbia can consider themselves unlucky not to have come away with a draw.
I agree with most of what you say, but Serbia weren’t unlucky. Apart from a decent shot from range they created next to nothing.
As for the tournament, I doubt anyone thought they’d seen the winner when Portugal drew their opening game of Euro 2016 1-1 with Iceland. Long way to go.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
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Originally Posted by
Moodybluebird
Yes I'm biased but I don't think I've watched a tournament winner tonight. England were on top for the first 30 minutes but from then on it was mostly all Serbia.
Foden was awful. Maybe he lacks confidence without his Man City chums around. Kane was like a big girl's blouse, falling down every time an opponent went near him. For me Declan Rice stood out, an excellent defensive midfield performance and Bellingham played OK too. Other than that, very average and in the end Serbia can consider themselves unlucky not to have come away with a draw.
I'd build a team around Foden, that's how highly i rate him. God knows what England does to top level midfield players.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I agree with most of what you say, but Serbia weren’t unlucky. Apart from a decent shot from range they created next to nothing.
As for the tournament, I doubt anyone thought they’d seen the winner when Portugal drew their opening game of Euro 2016 1-1 with Iceland. Long way to go.
They weren't unlucky, they lacked quality. A team with that quality would have beaten England Comfortably this evening, That will be a worry for Southgate. Thankfully,(for them) it was serbia
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
I'd build a team around Foden, that's how highly i rate him. God knows what England does to top level midfield players.
He was dreadful tonight. The curious thing was Southgate leaving him on for the pitch for the whole game.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
It's actually quite refreshing to see the BBC pundits being critical of England's performance.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
He was dreadful tonight. The curious thing was Southgate leaving him on for the pitch for the whole game.
Yup. I haven't seen much of him, but what i have seen has been excellent. He's so quick on the ball, and his decision making is brilliant.**** knows what happened in this game.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
They weren't unlucky, they lacked quality. A team with that quality would have beaten England Comfortably this evening, That will be a worry for Southgate. Thankfully,(for them) it was serbia
We’re basically saying if Serbia weren’t Serbia the result could have been different. But if Serbia weren’t Serbia the game would have been different too. England were poor second half, no doubt about it, but they won. That’s all that really matters at this stage.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I agree with most of what you say, but Serbia weren’t unlucky. Apart from a decent shot from range they created next to nothing.
As for the tournament, I doubt anyone thought they’d seen the winner when Portugal drew their opening game of Euro 2016 1-1 with Iceland. Long way to go.
I think unlucky from the point of view that they were on the front foot for almost the last hour of the game and not many teams are able to dominate England for that long. Some lovely ball control and passing movements too but no end product unfortunately for them.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
Southgate will cost England yet another tournament. His tactics are dire. He’s got arguably the best squad in the competition and hasn’t a clue what to do.
They should have beaten Italy in the last final, and the WC draw opened up like a dream for them.
He was shit as a club manager and he’s shit as an international manager.
This is a golden era for England talent wise, but they’ll be the same as Belgium. The middle of a doughnut to show for it.
I don’t really give a rats arse as I’m Welsh, but the English FA have dropped a bollock keeping him in charge.
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Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
We’re basically saying if Serbia weren’t Serbia the result could have been different. But if Serbia weren’t Serbia the game would have been different too. England were poor second half, no doubt about it, but they won. That’s all that really matters at this stage.
Well, the fact is that Serbia were Serbia, and they lacked quality in the final third. If they'd have possessed that quality then England would have lost in my opinion. I would bet that Gareth southgate and his coaching staff would be slightly concerned. Expect to see a more dynamic England performance in their next game. They were under pressure during the 2nd half and didn't deal with it well. That'll be a worry for them, i'm sure of that.