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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
The slur is your attempt to imply that this somehow diminishes the credibility of the witness. It's beyond pathetic.
Everybody already has an embedded opinion regarding her testimony, I don't think any factual discussion is going to change what people think. Obviously that may change if the FBI come out with any startling revelations.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
It's come out that Bart O'K knew about the Ramirez allegations long before they became public. Some interesting question and answers here:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...675619841.html
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Bart ain't all that good a choice anyway, he's far too wimpy. I hope they select somebody who is way better than him.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Everybody already has an embedded opinion regarding her testimony, I don't think any factual discussion is going to change what people think. Obviously that may change if the FBI come out with any startling revelations.
Really? I remember saying that she sounded credible but there were inconsistencies in her testimony. Some of us make an effort to be even-minded rather than continually seeing just one side of an argument.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
Really? I remember saying that she sounded credible but there were inconsistencies in her testimony. Some of us make an effort to be even-minded rather than continually seeing just one side of an argument.
I am even minded, I formed my opinion on what I saw and heard. There were lots of gaps in her account which kept changing over time.
Were the two from doors an inconsistency in your mind? How about the therapist she won't name?
https://www.realclearinvestigations....r_account.html
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I am even minded, I formed my opinion on what I saw and heard. There were lots of gaps in her account which kept changing over time.
Were the two from doors an inconsistency in your mind? How about the therapist she won't name?
https://www.realclearinvestigations....r_account.html
Apologies for my not noticing that you had also flagged up all the inconsistencies about his descriptions about his general behaviour in his youth (which are probably outright lies) that I mentioned and which I thought made him unsuitable for the post he is seeking. I have mistakenly been under the impression that you were just banging on endlessly about her inconsistencies.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I am even minded, I formed my opinion on what I saw and heard. There were lots of gaps in her account which kept changing over time.
Were the two from doors an inconsistency in your mind? How about the therapist she won't name?
https://www.realclearinvestigations....r_account.html
Apologies for my not noticing that you had also flagged up all the inconsistencies about his descriptions about his general behaviour in his youth (which are probably outright lies) that I mentioned and which I thought made him unsuitable for the post he is seeking. I must have missed that.
And how can everyone's views be considered as 'embedded' when people like me have neither declared him guilty of the alleged the offence nor accused her of lying as yet?
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
My reference to her possibly lying was meant to be in respect of possibly fabricating the story of the attack on her rather than inconsistencies in her reports of it, which I have already acknowledged.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
Apologies for my not noticing that you had also flagged up all the inconsistencies about his descriptions about his general behaviour in his youth (which are probably outright lies) that I mentioned and which I thought made him unsuitable for the post he is seeking. I must have missed that.
And how can everyone's views be considered as 'embedded' when people like me have neither declared him guilty of the alleged the offence nor accused her of lying as yet?
Still waiting for the FBI report on him, should be today or tomorrow?
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Taunton Blue Genie
My reference to her possibly lying was meant to be in respect of possibly fabricating the story of the attack on her rather than inconsistencies in her reports of it, which I have already acknowledged.
The scope for what she could have fabricated is increasing by the day.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Still waiting for the FBI report on him, should be today or tomorrow?
I notice that you avoided my question. It's like trying to nail jelly to the wall when exchanging messages with you, WB.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
Pretty unbelievable words from Trump. A few days ago he described her as credible, and now he's doing this:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-dnt="true"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: President Trump mocks Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, who has accused Trump's Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct, during a rally in Mississippi. <a href="https://t.co/yjrqDceYv6">https://t.co/yjrqDceYv6</a> <a href="https://t.co/iv22aHRwhn">pic.twitter.com/iv22aHRwhn</a></p>— NBC News (@NBCNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1047281394098028544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Pretty unbelievable words from Trump. A few days ago he described her as credible, and now he's doing this:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-dnt="true"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: President Trump mocks Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, who has accused Trump's Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct, during a rally in Mississippi. <a href="https://t.co/yjrqDceYv6">https://t.co/yjrqDceYv6</a> <a href="https://t.co/iv22aHRwhn">pic.twitter.com/iv22aHRwhn</a></p>— NBC News (@NBCNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1047281394098028544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Maybe he knows what's going on, it's all over Twitter! Some people have got a few problems coming their way.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
I notice that you avoided my question. It's like trying to nail jelly to the wall when exchanging messages with you, WB.
What was the question again? If it's about Kavanaugh we are waiting for the investigation report.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
What was the question again? If it's about Kavanaugh we are waiting for the investigation report.
It wasn't but never mind.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
It wasn't but never mind.
Don't worry we were all duped. I thought they were using her and she had my sympathies, but now I think she may have been in on it.
When I said embedded views, I meant we had all made up our minds and probably wouldn't be changing them.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Maybe he knows what's going on, it's all over Twitter! Some people have got a few problems coming their way.
Or maybe he’s yet again playing up to his crowd?
Answers on a postcard please....0
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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CardiffIrish2
Or maybe he’s yet again playing up to his crowd?
Answers on a postcard please....0
I don't think so, he knows what's coming. He's been told what we are waiting to hear. You can pick up bits and pieces on the internet, though probably missing some of the finer details.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
I'll make a prediction, he'll be voted on 53-47.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Rogersblue
I'll make a prediction, he'll be voted on 53-47.
Something's up, the Senate Judiciary are demanding that the attorneys hand over the Polygraph data and therapist notes immediately. Maybe that's the something Trump knows that we don't.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
CardiffIrish2
Or maybe he’s yet again playing up to his crowd?
Answers on a postcard please....0
Have to assume that his crowd is getting smaller and smaller.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
Avenatti's accuser is in a spot of bother too. It's going to be a mad couple of days.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Something's up, the Senate Judiciary are demanding that the attorneys hand over the Polygraph data and therapist notes immediately. Maybe that's the something Trump knows that we don't.
Also heard she's cia
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Rogersblue
Also heard she's cia
I've heard a lot of things too, but I'll only post the factual stuff.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I've heard a lot of things too, but I'll only post the factual stuff.
Just saying, also other interesting stuff on her brother, her parents, even her grandparents.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Don't worry we were all duped. I thought they were using her and she had my sympathies, but now I think she may have been in on it.
When I said embedded views, I meant we had all made up our minds and probably wouldn't be changing them.
We haven't though. No doubt, like many other people I am open-minded as to whether the alleged incident may or may not have happened. I stated that much previously but, as ever, you moved the goalposts.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
We haven't though. No doubt, like many other people I am open-minded as to whether the alleged incident may or may not have happened. I stated that much previously but, as ever, you moved the goalposts.
No one knows what happened then. What we do know is that a guy who wants to be a Supreme Court judge has lied under oath, shown a surprising amount of emotional fragility and declared that he will use the position to get revenge against his enemies.
It's his behaviour in the last few weeks that we can talk about and that's being avoided by some for a definite reason.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
We haven't though. No doubt, like many other people I am open-minded as to whether the alleged incident may or may not have happened. I stated that much previously but, as ever, you moved the goalposts.
I didn't move the goalposts, they were moved for us.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
lardy
No one knows what happened then. What we do know is that a guy who wants to be a Supreme Court judge has lied under oath, shown a surprising amount of emotional fragility and declared that he will use the position to get revenge against his enemies.
It's his behaviour in the last few weeks that we can talk about and that's being avoided by some for a definite reason.
And he threw an icecube in a bar!
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
Kavanaugh would not have been my choice, but now that I know more I don't blame him for anything that he did. They tried to turn every little thing into a reason to hang him, and the media were helping every step of the way. Now I say well done for fighting back and not playing their game, that's exactly what I would have done too. The Democrats have crossed the line, they are way, way over the line.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I didn't move the goalposts, they were moved for us.
I give up!
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
I give up!
Good idea. It's just another plot that was a part of the political coup. It's got feck all to do with reality, and not worth worrying about. They've been caught in the act, so it's just a few more names that we can add to the list of Comey, McCabe, Strzok & co.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Good idea. It's just another plot that was a part of the political coup. It's got feck all to do with reality, and not worth worrying about. They've been caught in the act, so it's just a few more names that we can add to the list of Comey, McCabe, Strzok & co.
You are totally missing the point yet again - but I think many other posters will understand exactly what I mean. Your lack of self-awareness is astonishing.
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Taunton Blue Genie
You are totally missing the point yet again - but I think many other posters will understand exactly what I mean. Your lack of self-awareness is astonishing.
:thumbup:
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
The Shitstorm is starting,get the popcorn out,and enjoy the Show.:hehe:
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Rogersblue
The Shitstorm is starting,get the popcorn out,and enjoy the Show.:hehe:
Or in other words QAnon has sent out some vague tweet which has been lapped up by the cult of the alt right .
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
CardiffIrish2
Or in other words QAnon has sent out some vague tweet which has been lapped up by the cult of the alt right .
Who is Qanon.:shrug::hehe:
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
The "beach friend" has been identified as a veteran 24-year ex-DOJ lawyer and DC swamp thing, and also a lifelong best friend from high school, who Ford was living with when she alledegdly helped her to pass a FBI polygraph test. Why did she say in her testimony that she didn't know anybody who could give her advice about lawyers and what to do? My guess is this person played a full role in constructing the storyline and accompanying documentation. Hell, she even knows the Clinton lawyers!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DooP3lHUcAE9hmB.jpg
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Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh
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Originally Posted by
Rogersblue
Just saying, also other interesting stuff on her brother, her parents, even her grandparents.
I know that, I just stick to the factual stuff due to the inability of some post posters to see past the end of their own noses, while at the same time rambling on about things such as self awareness!