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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
You are an embarrassment, doing the clubs dirty work for them
You lacky
What , apart from organising travel and the kids Xmas party ....which they do well ...have the supporters club done in terms of .....good things in general ?
The Trust ran social nights all over South Wales , tried to engage the club with the local communities of Riverside, Grangetown and Butetown , attended the Grangetown Carnival , with a stall promoting the Trust and most importantly , ccfc
What have the supporters club and club done ?
U know nowt
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
we might see ourselves as more than customers but in the club’s eyes we’re not is probably the truth, and the same is true for most clubs these days (but not all)
I haven’t got the brain power to see how that fits into a cinema analogy sorry
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
we might see ourselves as more than customers but in the club’s eyes we’re not is probably the truth, and the same is true for most clubs these days (but not all)
I haven’t got the brain power to see how that fits into a cinema analogy sorry
You don’t need much brain power to understand that, just because fans support a club both financially and emotionally, they are, at the end of the day, just customers, and unless they are shareholders, have no right to be involved in how the club is run from day to day.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
You don’t need much brain power to understand that, just because fans support a club both financially and emotionally, they are, at the end of the day, just customers, and unless they are shareholders, have no right to be involved in how the club is run from day to day.
No but if my local Odeon took out the chairs and started releasing snakes into the cinema at random intervals I’d want to know who was making those decisions
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
You don’t need much brain power to understand that, just because fans support a club both financially and emotionally, they are, at the end of the day, just customers, and unless they are shareholders, have no right to be involved in how the club is run from day to day.
You also don't need much brain power to understand that supporting a football club is nothing like visiting a cinema.
:thumbup:
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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The Lone Gunman
You also don't need much brain power to understand that supporting a football club is nothing like visiting a cinema.
:thumbup:
You pay to go to a cinema, and you pay to go to a game. You come out of both with an opinion on what you’ve just seen, then go home.
That is what the analogy is alluding to, and you know it, you little tinker.
Ps. If they changed the colour of the Cinema after say a 100 yrs, i wonder if folk would stop going?
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
No but if my local Odeon took out the chairs and started releasing snakes into the cinema at random intervals I’d want to know who was making those decisions
I don’t thing that either of those 2 things have ever happened at any cinema in the world, but correct me if i’m wrong. 😂
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
If they changed the colour of the Cinema after say a 100 yrs, i wonder if folk would stop going?
I doubt there are many cinemas still standing that were operating 100 years ago, let alone any that haven't had a paint job in the meantime.
Yesterday, I was listening to Ray Parlour telling a story about how one of his mates had to show his Spurs tattoo to his fellow fans to prove he was a Tottenham supporter after Parlour had picked him out in the away end during a North London derby. I thought of your (and Vincent's) dopey cinema analogy then.
I wonder if anyone has ever had an Odeon or Cineworld tattoo?
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I doubt there are many cinemas still standing that were operating 100 years ago, let alone any that haven't had a paint job in the meantime.
Yesterday, I was listening to Ray Parlour telling a story about how one of his mates had to show his Spurs tattoo to his fellow fans to prove he was a Tottenham supporter after Parlour had picked him out in the away end during a North London derby. I thought of your (and Vincent's) dopey cinema analogy then.
I wonder if anyone has ever had an Odeon or Cineworld tattoo?
Ah. So if you have a tattoo of your club, then that gives you the right to know the ins and outs of how the club is run, including it’s finances. Got you 👍
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Ah. So if you have a tattoo of your club, then that gives you the right to know the ins and outs of how the club is run, including it’s finances. Got you
I didn't say that, or anything close to that. I was merely demonstrating once more that your cinema analogy was daft.
Incidentally, a professional football club's finances are a matter of public record. The law dictates that a club's accounts must be filed on an annual basis.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I didn't say that, or anything close to that. I was merely demonstrating once more that your cinema analogy was daft.
Incidentally, a professional football club's finances are a matter of public record. The law dictates that a club's accounts must be filed on an annual basis.
What i’m trying to say is the vast majority of fans of all clubs aren’t the slightest bit interested in anything other than the game on the day.
Anyway, we’re just going tit for tat now, so you can reply if you want, and we’ll leave it at that 👍
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
You don’t need much brain power to understand that, just because fans support a club both financially and emotionally, they are, at the end of the day, just customers, and unless they are shareholders, have no right to be involved in how the club is run from day to day.
A number of football clubs apparently disagree with you.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
Baloo
A number of football clubs apparently disagree with you.
Well good for them. If they want to pander to their customers, then good on them,👍
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
What i’m trying to say is the vast majority of fans of all clubs aren’t the slightest bit interested in anything other than the game on the day.
Anyway, we’re just going tit for tat now, so you can reply if you want, and we’ll leave it at that 👍
Out of curiosity; do you post on the Odeon or Cineworld forums after each film to discuss the performance of the ushers?
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Tito Fuente
Out of curiosity; do you post on the Odeon or Cineworld forums after each film to discuss the performance of the ushers?
That’s cute, but yet another missing the point.
A customer is a customer.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
That’s cute, but yet another missing the point.
A customer is a customer.
There's no nuance then. A customer is a customer and all customers are the same. Fine.
Except the fact that every part of your analogy of football supporters being like cinema goers falls apart under the smallest bit of scrutiny.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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William Treseder
That’s cute, but yet another missing the point.
A customer is a customer.
Surely it’s you who’s missing the point. Then again I’m trying to imagine you singing, ‘In their Odeon slums’ or in Morrisons with an Asda bobble hat on singing, ‘They’re here, they’re there, they’re every f*cking where, empty shelves, empty shelves’.
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splott parker
Surely it’s you who’s missing the point. Then again I’m trying to imagine you singing, ‘In their Odeon slums’ or in Morrisons with an Asda bobble hat on singing, ‘They’re here, they’re there, they’re every f*cking where, empty shelves, empty shelves’.
:hehe:
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Surely it’s you who’s missing the point. Then again I’m trying to imagine you singing, ‘In their Odeon slums’ or in Morrisons with an Asda bobble hat on singing, ‘They’re here, they’re there, they’re every f*cking where, empty shelves, empty shelves’.
I’ve been travelling back to the Cardiff Odean for years now. Wouldn’t been seen dead in Cineworld Cheltenham.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Baloo
I’ve been travelling back to the Cardiff Odean for years now. Wouldn’t been seen dead in Cineworld Cheltenham.
Don’t blame you, the Kia-Ora is nowhere near the same quality.
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The best firm were Embassy Bridgend Cinema Crew
Nobody came anywhere near us
Which is why it's now a car park
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
That’s cute, but yet another missing the point.
A customer is a customer.
Everyone's missing the point except you ?
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Everyone's missing the point except you ?
Do you think you are anything other than a customer at the CCS?
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I doubt there are many cinemas still standing that were operating 100 years ago, let alone any that haven't had a paint job in the meantime.
Yesterday, I was listening to Ray Parlour telling a story about how one of his mates had to show his Spurs tattoo to his fellow fans to prove he was a Tottenham supporter after Parlour had picked him out in the away end during a North London derby. I thought of your (and Vincent's) dopey cinema analogy then.
I wonder if anyone has ever had an Odeon or Cineworld tattoo?
Was in a business meeting years ago with some seriously senior bod from Logitech, he was desperate for his brand to be on par and recognized like a sports team and how they could reduce the advertising to zero based purely on loyalty. He said only Harley Davidson had achieved that and would cry with joy if people started getting tattoos of Logitech.
The cinema analogy is sh1te by the way, all company's gather customer feedback and make changes, add product features to their backlog from suggestion of users. If Cardiff FC was a cinema its actually likely they'd need to listen more and act on customer feedback. All about the customer experience
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Trust Registered With Financial Conduct Authority
We are pleased to announce that our registration as a formal community society was confirmed this week by the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA).
Chairman Keith Morgan said: ““We are pleased to announce that our registration as a formal Community Benefit Society under the Co-operative and Community Benefit Societies Act 2014 with the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) was completed on May 18, 2022 under the name The Bluebirds Supporters Society Limited (our trading name of Cardiff City Supporters Trust will remain the same).
“This is welcome news and represents the next stage in the development of the Trust going forward. For the sake of clarity, it should be stressed that the Football Supporters Association (FSA) has always recognised CCST as a bona fide supporters’ organisation and full members of FSA and its predecessor organisation meeting all of its membership criteria.
“Indeed, we have received thanks for our work contributing to national issues related to football, including the recent Fans Led Review of football which formed part of the recent Queen’s Speech in Parliament.”
At the Trust’s annual general meeting next month, members will be asked to vote to transfer over to the new legal structure.
Nicola Cave of the FSA said: “The Football Supporters Association are delighted that Cardiff City FC supporters have taken this step towards a registered democratic society, to further strengthen their voices and complement their existing community projects. We look forward to continuing to support them and their members.”
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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splott parker
:thumbup: Supporting a football (other sports too) club is definitely a unique situation.
Cricket supporters , aren’t anything like football supporters though and it’s a sport I prefer over football. I wouldn’t have a clue how much a Glamorgan player earns or how much Ben Stokes gets ( I could look it up) so I guess I would be just a customer to the ECB or GCCC.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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TWGL1
Cricket supporters , aren’t anything like football supporters though and it’s a sport I prefer over football. I wouldn’t have a clue how much a Glamorgan player earns or how much Ben Stokes gets ( I could look it up) so I guess I would be just a customer to the ECB or GCCC.
You haven’t seen the banners or heard the chanting at England cricket matches then? The emails I get from Glammy are very customer orientated also.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
Cricket supporters , aren’t anything like football supporters though and it’s a sport I prefer over football. I wouldn’t have a clue how much a Glamorgan player earns or how much Ben Stokes gets ( I could look it up) so I guess I would be just a customer to the ECB or GCCC.
The ECB treat supporters of county cricket with utter contempt.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
You haven’t seen the banners or heard the chanting at England cricket matches then? The emails I get from Glammy are very customer orientated also.
Yes , been to numerous test matches and Lords. Just felt like a customer and was just interested in the result (and the weather ) not the finances , the wages of the players etc. I think that’s how it should be
Glamorgan do communicate well through emails but they don’t have a ticket office as such anymore neither do the ECB.
Everything is done virtually even away trips (ECB). It appears the club are following that pathway.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Don’t blame you, the Kia-Ora is nowhere near the same quality.
Football, cinéma and now cars. I was following it until then.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
What , apart from organising travel and the kids Xmas party ....which they do well ...have the supporters club done in terms of .....good things in general ?
Introduced a drum in the Canton stand to improve atmosphere :shrug:
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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J R Hartley
Introduced a drum in the Canton stand to improve atmosphere :shrug:
:hehe:
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Introduced a drum in the Canton stand to improve atmosphere :shrug:
Torture
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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J R Hartley
Introduced a drum in the Canton stand to improve atmosphere :shrug:
Some like it but I think over the seasons it's reduced our repertoire of songs. We use to be one of the best for songs, but now down to whatever fits the beat of the drum...and often led by the drums rather than the crowd.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Introduced a drum in the Canton stand to improve atmosphere :shrug:
It's awful, and you can hear at every game how it manages to kill chants stone dead within seconds. It's destroying the atmosphere, rather than helping it. The thing should be ritually burned in the car park...
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There’s a kid at Merthyr matches who brings a drum, he’s only about 8, but I could throttle the little ****er it’s so annoying.
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Originally Posted by
tforturton
It's awful, and you can hear at every game how it manages to kill chants stone dead within seconds. It's destroying the atmosphere, rather than helping it. The thing should be ritually burned in the car park...
:thumbup:
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
There’s a kid at Merthyr matches who brings a drum, he’s only about 8, but I could throttle the little ****er it’s so annoying.
It's just as well that vuvuzelas didn't catch on.....
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Originally Posted by
lisvaneblue
Some like it but I think over the seasons it's reduced our repertoire of songs. We use to be one of the best for songs, but now down to whatever fits the beat of the drum...and often led by the drums rather than the crowd.
100% agree. Replace the drum with a dozen guys on the catwalk starting chants would be a much better improvement to the atmosphere.