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TWGL1
Thought the selectors would have rotated at least 1 of the Anderson, Broad of Robinson.
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Why does every cricket story on BBC sport only ever refer to England until the racism sexism etc story when it's become England and Wales in every report
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Australia look a much better balanced side, Stokes’ inability to be more than an occasional bowler means that England really need four seamers plus a specialist spinner, so, at one down in the series, I’d say a batsman had to drop out - don’t get why Wood’s not playing and England’s tail looks quite a long one.
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id have dropped Stokes to be honest and brought Foakes in at 7. Unless you can get more overs out of stokes hes really a sitting duck in that team (captaincy aside)
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TheGoose
id have dropped Stokes to be honest and brought Foakes in at 7. Unless you can get more overs out of stokes hes really a sitting duck in that team (captaincy aside)
Yes, Stokes is in danger of becoming a Mike Brearley type in that he’s in the side mainly for his captaincy - it’s been a while since he made a significant contribution with the bat.
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Move over ladies let the real Ashes commence
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fugsyphil
Why does every cricket story on BBC sport only ever refer to England until the racism sexism etc story when it's become England and Wales in every report
To avoid accusation of Welsh racism ?
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the other bob wilson
Yes, Stokes is in danger of becoming a Mike Brearley type in that he’s in the side mainly for his captaincy - it’s been a while since he made a significant contribution with the bat.
I think the Brearley comparison is harsh.
I expect Stokes to add more centuries before hes done and can still get wickets not fully fit.
Needs runs though and I think they will come.
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Stokes has the temperament to open the batting in place of Duckett , perhaps this could be an option?
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the other bob wilson
Australia look a much better balanced side, Stokes’ inability to be more than an occasional bowler means that England really need four seamers plus a specialist spinner, so, at one down in the series, I’d say a batsman had to drop out - don’t get why Wood’s not playing and England’s tail looks quite a long one.
Wood injured again - elbow?
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fugsyphil
Why does every cricket story on BBC sport only ever refer to England until the racism sexism etc story when it's become England and Wales in every report
Fair point but Wales cricket board have a lot to improve on - different board I know but I personally wouldn't want the focus to ignore Wales however it comes about
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Nobody's Rep
Wood injured again - elbow?
Apparently they don't think hes fit enough and want him fully fit for Headingly.
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The Aussies having a decent session this am despite the weather and protests.
Win this one and the series is over.
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Smith and Head putting on a clinic here, England better start praying for rain.
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Der Kaiser
Smith and Head putting on a clinic here, England better start praying for rain.
Commentators curse.
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Not watched too much of it today, but Kevin Pietersen is really tearing into England - I’ve no time for him as a pundit, but much of what he is saying is being repeated on Test Match Special.
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the other bob wilson
Not watched too much of it today, but Kevin Pietersen is really tearing into England - I’ve no time for him as a pundit, but much of what he is saying is being repeated on Test Match Special.
Pietersen complaining about England being too friendly with the opposition.🤣🤣🤣
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Can't help but think that picking both Broad and Anderson for this test was done out of sentiment. Bowlers have to be rotated throughout the series, and if this Test wasn't their final Lords Ashes Test, I doubt that both would have been picked.
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Love it if they can get 500+ but think it'll be a bit less.
That one over from Root has given England a chance and Head and Green will be kicking themselves for throwing their wickets away.
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The Bloop
Can't help but think that picking both Broad and Anderson for this test was done out of sentiment. Bowlers have to be rotated throughout the series, and if this Test wasn't their final Lords Ashes Test, I doubt that both would have been picked.
Stokes only bowled three, very expensive, overs I see - in a way, Bazball is secondary to England being an unbalanced team because their captain, their best player in recent years in my opinion, has lost his bowling and the selectors have got themselves in a right mess trying to compensate for this.
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Luckily a couple of weird shots in one over from Root stopped it being totally disastrous. Tongue bowled some good balls but was inconsistent. Jimmy looks near gone I'm afraid. As for Robinson giving it the big un and mouthing off, it's embarrassing. He's like Derek Pringle without a brain
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the other bob wilson
Stokes only bowled three, very expensive, overs I see - in a way, Bazball is secondary to England being an unbalanced team because their captain, their best player in recent years in my opinion, has lost his bowling and the selectors have got themselves in a right mess trying to compensate for this.
true bob, stokes may have been the winner in previous series but it has been obvious hes not fit now they are stuck with the team being t20 and trying to play test cricket it might come off in the odd series
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Thought Australia missed a trick by not declaring with half an hour to play.
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i got a feeling they will keep at it to to rub it in and get as many as possible with starc back in the team as well more chance of bowling them out
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I doubt if Australia will declare in a first innings. They will get as many as possible and probably get England to follow on after their batsmen flop.
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Australia may declare once they’ve got beyond 450 to 500, they have done so in the past. However, I’m sure it never entered the Aussies’ mind to declare on the first day, just like it shouldn’t have entered Ben Stokes’ head at Edgbaston.
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the other bob wilson
Australia may declare once they’ve got beyond 450 to 500, they have done so in the past. However, I’m sure it never entered the Aussies’ mind to declare on the first day, just like it shouldn’t have entered Ben Stokes’ head at Edgbaston.
I would hesitate to call it a fight back maybe more of a damage limitation exercise this morning.
I fear a traditional middle order collapse and England batting again, this evening, with a deficit of around 180.
Australia's to lose , as it stands.
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It will be interesting to see what the Australians get out of this wicket. Their attack is superior to Englands one paced attack and theyve got a world class spinner.
If 400 is a par score on the wicket then England have enough quality to get near they score.
I fear though that Englands poor bowling has allowed them to score too many.
Australia without doubt firmly in charge of the match and the Ashes.
2 big sessions coming up which England need to get the upper hand to even put them near par for the game.
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England 160-1 - chwarae teg to them, they’ve come back really strongly today.
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Its been a good start but Pope and Crawley have given their wickets away.
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Hilts
Its been a good start but Pope and Crawley have given their wickets away.
this is how they play the game now. no more dot dot dot
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Root lucky. FFS learn from that and pull yourself together.
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Lyon off with a calf injury as well. Could be a massive moment in the Test.England have put themselves in a good position. Be positive but dont give them easy wickets.
Back in this. Dont blow it.
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Duckett now falls for the short ball. WTF are they thinking.???
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Hilts
Duckett now falls for the short ball. WTF are they thinking.???
This is ridiculous batting. Harry Brook backing away to leg second ball and whacking it over point. Tried it again and it’s gone passed the keeper. Treating it like a 20 20 game. As I said ridiculous.
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Hilts
Duckett now falls for the short ball. WTF are they thinking.???
It's how England now play the game, and how Australia have played the game today. A couple of mis-timed shots have brought down both Pope and Duckett.
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Its brainless cricket. Root had one let off and doesnt learn.
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Idiotic to keep falling for that
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Hot Shot Hamish.
This is ridiculous batting. Harry Brook backing away to leg second ball and whacking it over point. Tried it again and it’s gone passed the keeper. Treating it like a 20 20 game. As I said ridiculous.
Brook's innings has been terrible, mad, but he's still there tomorrow!
Stokes makes them all play like madmen and then comes in and plays like Boycott!
Entertaining it is, sort of.....
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