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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
bluemoon
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as another poster said its not just a bogus manager, those players need a long hard look at themselves
I think a lot of the players gave up playing for Bulut towards the end of last season
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Mr Soul '68
I think a lot of the players gave up playing for Bulut towards the end of last season
Then they should play for themselves, their family and the supporters. Some of them aren't turning up in my opinion.
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Well said (about the players) Bulut shouldn't be anywhere near it, that's obvious, but the players need to answer some questions as well. When did they get exonerated from responsibility. Some of them are cowards.
:thumbup:
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
John Percy (Telegraph journalist) tweeting that the club are discussing Bulut's future tonight?
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Then they should play for themselves, their family and the supporters. Some of them aren't turning up in my opinion.
You're dead right there. Too many going awol and even today, we could have done something. They mentioned in the commentary a lack of urgency. Bulut can take a bunch of them with him when he goes.
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Apart from ending the game well against Swansea that's been it really this season
There doesn't seem to be any movement forward now so it's time for action in terms of removing bulut
It's no good moaning about tan and the rest of the set up , he's here until someone takes over
So we have to hope we get a decent replacement
We have some useful players in the squad but it appears they just ain't performing so it's time for a change
Onwards
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Eddie Johnson
I think I would happily accept Steve Morison back over Erol.
WoL headline tomorrow, Bulut Fired! (I hope)
You have gone too far now…….. ;-)
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Even if our board appoint a decent manager it's going to be difficult to keep this group of players up.
However he has to go.
What's the lowest points total a club has accrued at this level.?
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
Even if our board appoint a decent manager it's going to be difficult to keep this group of players up.
However he has to go.
What's the lowest points total a club has accrued at this level.?
I don't think the team is as bad as people think
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Citizen's Nephew
You're dead right there. Too many going awol and even today, we could have done something. The mentioned in the commentary a lack of urgency. Bulut can take a bunch of them with him when he goes.
**** Bulut, there are things that have nothing to do with him. This lot are piss weak, no character. The players can show that they have some bottle even under a piss poor manager. Fans seem to just let them off the hook. We were never like this as a fan base, we battered players who were genuinely shit, players who couldn't control the ball and who were on nothing in terms of salary.
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Former Labour leader
Being reported in Midlands that board considering Bulut's future.
We can only hope.
Omar Rizais talking to the media after the game, does that signify anything or is Bulut just trying to make out this latest defeat was nothing to do with him?
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I don't think the team is as bad as people think
I think the team and Bulut are a disgrace at the moment. There are players out there wearing the shirt who should have it ripped off them and given to some of the younger players. There are journeymen in that squad. We can stay up but if the board don't have a decent replacement i.e. someone who can change the whole psychology like Cooper did at Forest then we're f*cked.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Omar Rizais talking to the media after the game, does that signify anything or is Bulut just trying to make out this latest defeat was nothing to do with him?
Probably something to do with Bulut's one match ban
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
**** Bulut, there are things that have nothing to do with him. This lot are piss weak, no character. The players can show that they have some bottle even under a piss poor manager. Fans seem to just let them off the hook. We were never like this as a fan base, we battered players who were genuinely shit, players who couldn't control the ball and who were on nothing in terms of salary.
I know it might be a minor thing but our fans applauding ex players p*sses me off too. Like NML today. I was p*ssed off at the reception Warnock had mind when his 'borough side beat us.
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Then they should play for themselves, their family and the supporters. Some of them aren't turning up in my opinion.
The players gave their verdict on Bulut at Rotherham.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Citizen's Nephew
I think the team and Bulut are a disgrace at the moment. There are players out there wearing the shirt who should have it ripped off them and given to some of the younger players. There are journeymen in that squad. We can stay up but if the board don't have a decent replacement i.e. someone who can change the whole psychology like Cooper did at Forest then we're f*cked.
I think bulut has shot his bolt
The players are a combination of not being up to it , not being played in the right system and in need of a new manager to knock them into shape
Either way it's time for a change
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I don't think the team is as bad as people think
If that's the case, then Bulut is completely out of his depth.
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Citizen's Nephew
I know it might be a minor thing but our fans applauding ex players p*sses me off too. Like NML today. I was p*ssed off at the reception Warnock had mind when his 'borough side beat us.
Sycophantic tendencies. Easily pleased.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Citizen's Nephew
I think the team and Bulut are a disgrace at the moment. There are players out there wearing the shirt who should have it ripped off them and given to some of the younger players. There are journeymen in that squad. We can stay up but if the board don't have a decent replacement i.e. someone who can change the whole psychology like Cooper did at Forest then we're f*cked.
Colwill was largely anonymous. Ashford contributed nothing when he came on. It's not simply a question of bringing the younger players in- we have no effective system of play and the players look lost.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
‘Erol Bulut, we want you to stay.’
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
If that's the case, then Bulut is completely out of his depth.
He is but we are a relegation squad as well.
We've made some bad signings.
When Bulut eventually goes to have any sort of chance to beat the drop we need some quality free agents. This seasons equivalent of Sol Bamba and Junior Hoillet.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
‘Erol Bulut, we want you to stay.’
This club has too many fans who lack foresight and the rest of us have to suffer the consequences.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
He is but we are a relegation squad as well.
We've made some bad signings.
When Bulut eventually goes to have any sort of chance to beat the drop we need some quality free agents. This seasons equivalent of Sol Bamba and Junior Hoillet.
No, we don't. The squad is more than good enough to stay up. Just needs a manager who knows what he's doing.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
D. Advocaat
Colwill was largely anonymous. Ashford contributed nothing when he came on. It's not simply a question of bringing the younger players in- we have no effective system of play and the players look lost.
Of course it isn't. That's not what I said though. I said there are players who need the shirt ripping off them and giving it to younger players. I'm not one of those who thinks we just play the youngsters en masse because there is a balance to be had. I agree with you about an effective system. In fact. I don't see a system so having one would be a start. Yes, the players look lost. It's a mess. But there are paid professionals out there who should be doing more than they are.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
‘Erol Bulut, we want you to stay.’
Baffling. And probably had a bearing on Tan's decision to keep Bulut.
Mind you, a significant proportion of our away support join in with that repulsive YJB chant- their judgement is not worth anything.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
‘Erol Bulut, we want you to stay.’
Chants of ‘Erol Bulut’s barmy army’ today, albeit pretty muted, ‘Erol Bulut’s f*cking barmy’ would be more appropriate. We’ve dropped a huge bollock not binning him and bringing Bellamy in at the end of last season, in my opinion. As it is it’s another ‘pay up the contract’ situation. Cardiff City eh………
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Ebou Adams
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Charity <a href="https://t.co/g3UWmtMMdt">pic.twitter.com/g3UWmtMMdt</a></p>— Scott Johnson (@roathboy) <a href="https://twitter.com/roathboy/status/1834996327236657480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Citizen's Nephew
Of course it isn't. That's not what I said though. I said there are players who need the shirt ripping off them and giving it to younger players. I'm not one of those who thinks we just play the youngsters en masse because there is a balance to be had. I agree with you about an effective system. In fact. I don't see a system so having one would be a start. Yes, the players look lost. It's a mess. But there are paid professionals out there who should be doing more than they are.
It's the basics. Poor touch, lack of urgency, composure, poor decision making etc. A lot of that stuff is on the players. Obviously, the set up and tactics have an affect on performance and mentality, but i'm not for allowing these players a free pas because the manager is a fraud.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
Even if our board appoint a decent manager it's going to be difficult to keep this group of players up.
However he has to go.
What's the lowest points total a club has accrued at this level.?
I don’t agree with that at all.
For once I think that we have some decent players (O’Dowda, Robertson, Willock, El Ghazi, Chalmers, Ng) and quite a few others with potential.
I have not been a Bulut out person but he needs to turn this around sharpish as I don’t think Tan will be too patient.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Michael Morris
Ebou Adams
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Charity <a href="https://t.co/g3UWmtMMdt">pic.twitter.com/g3UWmtMMdt</a></p>— Scott Johnson (@roathboy) <a href="https://twitter.com/roathboy/status/1834996327236657480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I'm predicting we just stay up on goal difference! That's the turning point of our season right there! :tongue:
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Citizen's Nephew
I'm predicting we just stay up on goal difference! That's the turning point of our season right there! :tongue:
Match fixing, no question about it.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
The abysmal defending for the goal sums up the poor quality and effort of our defenders. Goutas and Chambers are poor. How on earth did Chambers get an England cap??
They also kept catching us out with the short passes at set plays with Colwill left on his own v 2. Luckily Derby are pretty crap. (Less crap than us though)
Lack of creativity in midfield , lack of pace and absolutely nothing up front.
Leeds is going to be a hammering.
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
The players gave their verdict on Bulut at Rotherham.
Totally agree with you here. Bulut should have been given the bullet lol, the second the referees whistle went for full time. Rotherham, a team with nothing to play for, the worst in the division last season, played their hearts out that day for their manager and fans after an extremely poor season.
Ours couldn't have given a flying fkuk. Maybe they were hoping that abject display would get Bulut the sack?
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
You can't win without goals scorers or a good striker... we don't have any of that...which match will we get 3 points ?
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
It's the basics. Poor touch, lack of urgency, composure, poor decision making etc. A lot of that stuff is on the players. Obviously, the set up and tactics have an affect on performance and mentality, but i'm not for allowing these players a free pas because the manager is a fraud.
It could be like De Caprio in Catch Me If You Can!
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
The abysmal defending for the goal sums up the poor quality and effort of our defenders. Goutas and Chambers are poor. How on earth did Chambers get an England cap??
They also kept catching us out with the short passes at set plays with Colwill left on his own v 2. Luckily Derby are pretty crap. (Less crap than us though)
Lack of creativity in midfield , lack of pace and absolutely nothing up front.
Leeds is going to be a hammering.
What was happening at their corners was clearly planned, don’t ask me what they were trying to achieve mind.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Citizen's Nephew
It could be like De Caprio in Catch Me If You Can!
I actually have some repect for Bulut, he's fooled the three Stooges and made himself a pretty penny. I'd do the same if i could get that type of work...
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Sycophantic tendencies. Easily pleased.
The same dopey feckers that wanted Bulut to stay at the club, because he does a good fist pump
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Mr Soul '68
The same dopey feckers that wanted Bulut to stay at the club, because he does a good fist pump
That's an image I'd rather not have just before my bacon sarnie.
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Mr Soul '68
The same dopey feckers that wanted Bulut to stay at the club, because he does a good fist pump
I just think back to the Jones era. Much better players, decent football, but we did get stuck into the manager and players ultimately, for their failures. Go back further, and it was just cruel. something happened when we reached the premier league, it's like we're not worthy of decent football and a club that has a plan,