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Beale might have more street cred than BBM. Christ alive...
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Brian Barry-Murphy was touted for the Cardiff manager's job a few years ago when he had just left Rochdale.
At the time I preferred him to any of the other options on the bookies lists.
He seemed to be a top coach - but with a short and mixed managerial career. A gamble.
He is even more of a gamble for us in the position we are now in. Any appointment will be a gamble but - although it could work out - I want Tan to opt for someone with experience of the fight we are facing to get back to the Championship, and a record that gives us some confidence he knows what he is doing!
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The fact that the 3 (or 4) candidates on the final short list have clearly been interviewed and now recommended to VT indicates that wellens and jones are not included - as preparing for play off final. Could be wrong but doubt it. Hugely disappointing for me. I was really hoping that we would go and get whichever one lost and that was why the process was slower than some would have liked. But looks like money is talking again and another cheap option is incoming. Still hope I’m pleasantly surprised - but doubt it.
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Brian Barry-Murphy from nowhere is odds on fav. Never heard of him. Ramsey 2nd fav. Evatt and Buckingham drifting to 8-1.
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Barry-Murphy has drifted slightly in the betting. Did go to 1-2 , Now evens. Bit of money on Buckingham and hes 5-1 now Ramsey 6-1 Evatt 8-1.
The betting is probably changing to flutters of bets and in the know wannabes with daft my mate knows blah blah blah and hes got the job rumours.
Looks though that no decision is made and it's a wide open battle between out of work managers.
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the other bob wilson
Do you follow his tweets?
He does this all the time. Names a few obvious names or targets then caveats with he also understands there are some outsiders and names who haven't been mentioned who it could be also.
Think that's all bases covered for him there!
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No mention of Osian Roberts !
Perfect with Ramsey as his helper
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Father Dougal
Do you follow his tweets?
He does this all the time. Names a few obvious names or targets then caveats with he also understands there are some outsiders and names who haven't been mentioned who it could be also.
Think that's all bases covered for him there!
I think it’s been pretty obvious over the past two or three years that Paul Abbandonato has been fed information by someone high up at the club. I believe that those four names are on the list of names Tan has been given to consider.
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the other bob wilson
I think it’s been pretty obvious over the past two or three years that Paul Abbandonato has been fed information by someone high up at the club. I believe that those four names are on the list of names Tan has been given to consider.
Information is an interesting word to use.
He's clearly been used by someone yes. To spread Bullsh1t more than accurate information I believe though.
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Father Dougal
Information is an interesting word to use.
He's clearly been used by someone yes. To spread Bullsh1t more than accurate information I believe though.
It's Dalman.
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If that list is correct I'm disappointed it doesn't involve Edwards or anyone currently in a manager job. Seems like we are going for a cheap option
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We can rub Nathan Jones of the list then.
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PontBlue
If that list is correct I'm disappointed it doesn't involve Edwards or anyone currently in a manager job. Seems like we are going for a cheap option
Who do you want? Nobody is going to drop down a division to manage us
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Pedro de la Rosa
Who do you want? Nobody is going to drop down a division to manage us
I think it's entirely reasonable to think that someone out of work and with bills to pay would consider our managerial vacancy. Someone in work and currently managing in league one may also fancy a pay rise if we came calling.
My preference once he became available was Selles, followed by Rob Edwards and then Dave Challinor.
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If we get Murphy, maybe he can ask Pep for a goalkeeper. That's a priority
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Armitage Shanks
If we get Murphy, maybe he can ask Pep for a goalkeeper. That's a priority
I think Alnwick is a more than adequate L1 keeper.
We need at least 4 or 5 very good L1 standard outfield players to go straight in the side.. Right through the spine of the side. CB (hopefully Fish or Lawlor prove good enough for 1 place) , Central midfield and striker. We need physicality and pace.
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Hilts
I think Alnwick is a more than adequate L1 keeper.
We need at least 4 or 5 very good L1 standard outfield players to go straight in the side.. Right through the spine of the side. CB (hopefully Fish or Lawlor prove good enough for 1 place) , Central midfield and striker. We need physicality and pace.
We certainly need a few who can battle rather than bottle, if we keep most of the squad from last season, our most important acquisition is going to be a bigger physio dept.
We really need a few in who understand that they have to win their battles before they can play football.
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olderblue
We certainly need a few who can battle rather than bottle, if we keep most of the squad from last season, our most important acquisition is going to be a bigger physio dept.
We really need a few in who understand that they have to win their battles before they can play football.
I agree we need leaders and players who will battle plus pace.
In addition there will be a few on the retained list that we badly need moved on.
Maybe 3 or 4 sales and those out of contract leaving.
We need a manager in quickly now as we need to rebuild this team/squad.
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PontBlue
I think it's entirely reasonable to think that someone out of work and with bills to pay would consider our managerial vacancy. Someone in work and currently managing in league one may also fancy a pay rise if we came calling.
My preference once he became available was Selles, followed by Rob Edwards and then Dave Challinor.
I agree with you but that's not what you said?
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Armitage Shanks
If we get Murphy, maybe he can ask Pep for a goalkeeper. That's a priority
The priority is pace, pace and more pace.
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Pedro de la Rosa
I agree with you but that's not what you said?
I mentioned Edwards in both posts and Challinor is currently employed. Neither would be amongst the cheaper options IMO as one has recently been employed at a higher level and is currently out of work but used to higher wages and the second would involve us paying compensation to their current club. As I said initally we are going for cheaper options.
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PontBlue
I mentioned Edwards in both posts and Challinor is currently employed. Neither would be amongst the cheaper options IMO as one has recently been employed at a higher level and is currently out of work but used to higher wages and the second would involve us paying compensation to their current club. As I said initally we are going for cheaper options.
Buckingham is on the list, apparently, and has been employed in the Championship. Your first post you mentioned your dismay at not going for someone in a job, apart from Challinor, who else is there?
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New manager appointment imminent? Have the Cardiff hierarchy listened?
Brian Barry Murphy now favourite to become next Cardiff manager.
https://mauveandyellowarmy.net
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olderblue
We really need a few in who understand that they have to win their battles before they can play football.
This, for me, is the single biggest reason why Riza failed and we got relegated. Spent most of the time "playing in boxes", switching formations, and trying to show the world what a progressive coach he was when we should have been going back to basics and doing the simple things right to try and win points.
People can talk about pace or needing players who can do X, Y or Z, but this is the single most important thing we need to address this summer IMO.
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FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead
This, for me, is the single biggest reason why Riza failed and we got relegated. Spent most of the time "playing in boxes", switching formations, and trying to show the world what a progressive coach he was when we should have been going back to basics and doing the simple things right to try and win points.
People can talk about pace or needing players who can do X, Y or Z, but this is the single most important thing we need to address this summer IMO.
It’s only at Cardiff where you go from having a squad of big, technically limited, long ball orientated, physical battlers with a fetish for set pieces that were moderately successful, but getting worse through the full 180 degrees to arrive at being precious, “after you”, bottlers, capable of occasionally playing “nice” football, who are a soft touch at set pieces and generally lack the strength to fight their way out of a wet paper bag without thinking to stop off somewhere in between those two complete contrasts.
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Pedro de la Rosa
The priority is pace, pace and more pace.
Yup, you cannot legislate against pace. A manager can have his defence well-drilled, but pace will always open them up.
When was the last time we had someone with real pace....Josh Murphy/ NML?
Our problem has been we've just relied on a single speed merchant, rather than having 3-4 seriously fast players in the team together.
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FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead
This, for me, is the single biggest reason why Riza failed and we got relegated. Spent most of the time "playing in boxes", switching formations, and trying to show the world what a progressive coach he was when we should have been going back to basics and doing the simple things right to try and win points.
People can talk about pace or needing players who can do X, Y or Z, but this is the single most important thing we need to address this summer IMO.
For Riza add Bulut and Ramsey. The club and it's recruitment appear to have deliberately moved from bringing in the pragmatic, industrious and strong player that formed the cornerstone of City's squad for several years. Ironically, just as the club is making a concerted effort to be as delightfully pattern-weaving as possible, the football world has started to return to a more direct, counter-attacking culture with speed and strength at the core.
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Barry Murphy now odds on again 4-7
Buckingham 11-8.
Ramsey 8-1
Evatt 10-1.
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Hilts
Barry Murphy now odds on again 4-7
Buckingham 11-8.
Ramsey 8-1
Evatt 10-1.
I know that you're dead against Des Buckingham, But he's had an intereting career to date, did really well in New Zealand across all age groups nationally and at club level. And he's got a 1980s self employed Driving instructors name, what's not to like :thumbup:
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A Quiet Monkfish
For Riza add Bulut and Ramsey. The club and it's recruitment appear to have deliberately moved from bringing in the pragmatic, industrious and strong player that formed the cornerstone of City's squad for several years. Ironically, just as the club is making a concerted effort to be as delightfully pattern-weaving as possible, the football world has started to return to a more direct, counter-attacking culture with speed and strength at the core.
Sean Dyche was talking about this the other week on Gary Neville's podcast. For the last 10 years, clubs everywhere have tried to copy Pep Guardiola's approach, but they're now starting to realise that it doesn't work unless your Man City and you have the players - and budget - to make it work. And even then, opponents can get something if they're disciplined, sit deep, and don't press.
Chasing that style of play is only going to be counterintuitive for us. The key is to be able to mix things up. Play from the back when the opportunity is there, but don't be afraid to be direct and turn opponents quickly. That requires coaching players to think critically and assess each situation on its merit, as opposed to playing like a robot in a system. And it seems like modern coaches don't want to do that, because they see Vincent Kompany landing the Bayern job even though his team got relegated.
As Dyche said, if I was an owner and I asked a potential coach what his philosophy is, the only answer I'd be looking for is a simple one: to win.
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Tuerto
I know that you're dead against Des Buckingham, But he's had an intereting career to date, did really well in New Zealand across all age groups nationally and at club level. And he's got a 1980s self employed Driving instructors name, what's not to like :thumbup:
He also turned Josh Murphy's career around
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Pedro de la Rosa
He also turned Josh Murphy's career around
Did he or did Liam Manning?
How much of Oxfords success was down to Buckingham. He was sacked after about a year. They were 2nd when Manning left and he took over. They went up through the play offs.
Rowett also turned around Oxford pretty quickly when Buckingham was relieved of duties.
We are probably going cheap. He may get it. If he does lets hope he is a good coach who Oxford were foolish to let go.
Otherwise Tuertos mate may get his wish and it will Ramasut to get his chance in November.🤣
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Looks like Plymouth losing their manager. They will still hire a new one before us.
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Trigger
Looks like Plymouth losing their manager. They will still hire a new one before us.
He wasn't bad actually, I'd take him here. Rooney was the problem at Plymouth.
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Trigger
Looks like Plymouth losing their manager. They will still hire a new one before us.
Gone to Shalke
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the other bob wilson
It’s only at Cardiff where you go from having a squad of big, technically limited, long ball orientated, physical battlers with a fetish for set pieces that were moderately successful, but getting worse through the full 180 degrees to arrive at being precious, “after you”, bottlers, capable of occasionally playing “nice” football, who are a soft touch at set pieces and generally lack the strength to fight their way out of a wet paper bag without thinking to stop off somewhere in between those two complete contrasts.
This could prove to be a big problem next season in League 1, where the players will have to battle and "win the right to play".
I don't know anything about the type of football we will have to face next year, so I am basing that on some of the comments from contributors on here. However, I can imagine that there are a lot of honest footballers who have to fight every week to earn their money.
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The 10-1 on Evatt has gone.
Latest Barry-Murphy evens
Buckingham 2-1
Evatt 7-2
Ramsey 8-1
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KingOfSiamIAm
This could prove to be a big problem next season in League 1, where the players will have to battle and "win the right to play".
I don't know anything about the type of football we will have to face next year, so I am basing that on some of the comments from contributors on here. However, I can imagine that there are a lot of honest footballers who have to fight every week to earn their money.
Based off what the League 1 playoffs showed, the drop off in standard is monumental.
Our squad now should be more than good enough for a top 10 finish.
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Hilts
Did he or did Liam Manning?
How much of Oxfords success was down to Buckingham. He was sacked after about a year. They were 2nd when Manning left and he took over. They went up through the play offs.
Rowett also turned around Oxford pretty quickly when Buckingham was relieved of duties.
We are probably going cheap. He may get it. If he does lets hope he is a good coach who Oxford were foolish to let go.
Otherwise Tuertos mate may get his wish and it will Ramasut to get his chance in November.
What a good post. Hadn't thought of this.