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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
It's not whataboutery. It's because you start talking nonsense.
Don't make stuff up and claim it only occurs in one party and you won't get the alternative arguments that so upset you
No one has though. All that was said was not all politicians are the same after someone said they were.
Then you started posting links to labour corruption. Whataboutism at its finest.
No one else has mentioned or chosen “their side” in this thread. Just for some reason the dense in this thread treat politics like football and think anyone criticising the the corruption of the incumbent government must be labour supporters who would be equally biased, and it’s nonsense.
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Yes of course there is. I don't mean in a left/right labour/tory way. This government is far more corrupt and incompetent than any other UK government i know of. That's not a good a combo.
This was the origin post and it’s spot on. I would trust every previous Tory government over this one.
Never have we had such a group of obviously slimy *****. And it isn’t just corruption it’s hypocrisy too. Breaking rules while pushing them on us proles for 2 years.
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Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
It's not whataboutery. It's because you start talking nonsense.
Don't make stuff up and claim it only occurs in one party and you won't get the alternative arguments that so upset you
I'm saying corruption can occur across the spectrum and it's wrong.
Others seem to think 'their side' are incapable of it. Therefore a few examples may prove them wrong in that.
I haven't said it's only one party. I haven't seen anyone say that.
I said that this lot are worse than others. Read what is said, not what you'd like to be said.
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
No one has though. All that was said was not all politicians are the same after someone said they were.
Then you started posting links to labour corruption. Whataboutism at its finest.
No one else has mentioned or chosen “their side” in this thread. Just for some reason the dense in this thread treat politics like football and think anyone criticising the the corruption of the incumbent government must be labour supporters who would be equally biased, and it’s nonsense.
Wrong. Numerous posts on here insinuate and state that its always the Tories and that the corruption is the worst examples of any government ever etc etc.
Sorry, that's false and hyperbole. Nothing wrong with me saying that and providing examples.
The Tories should be condemned, but don't think the curse of corruption doesn't haunt other parties because it does.
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Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
This was the origin post and it’s spot on. I would trust every previous Tory government over this one.
Never have we had such a group of obviously slimy *****. And it isn’t just corruption it’s hypocrisy too. Breaking rules while pushing them on us proles for 2 years.
Exactly. In fact, this argument is kinder on the Tories because it means they are usually a lot better than this. James doesn't realise he's damning them more by saying the current behaviour is usual.
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I can’t believe we’ve reached the point where anyone criticising the government must be supporters of a different party.
I criticised Blair’s government as much as I have any other. There’s nothing wrong with criticising a party you’ve voted for if they’re scumbags. It’s the exact point of democracy.
Just because you voted for a party doesn’t mean you have to support, defend and agree with everything they do.
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Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Wrong. Numerous posts on here insinuate and state that its always the Tories and that the corruption is the worst examples of any government ever etc etc.
Sorry, that's false and hyperbole. Nothing wrong with me saying that and providing examples.
The Tories should be condemned, but don't think the curse of corruption doesn't haunt other parties because it does.
No one said it didn’t. They said not all politicians are corrupt.
Give me John Major over these shameless cretins any day.
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Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..
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Originally Posted by
lardy
I haven't said it's only one party. I haven't seen anyone say that.
I said that this lot are worse than others. Read what is said, not what you'd like to be said.
No, you didn't, but you said it was a lot worse than other governments and I would argue that that probably isn't true. It just seems worse at the time as other corruption scandals get forgotton.
And I tried to illustrate that.
Then Croesy woke up from god knows what he's been doing and called me a freak and here we are.
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Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
No, not stereotypes just plain truth. There's nothing more corrupt than a Tory. Sleaze, greed and selfishness. What a wonderful benefit to humankind.
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Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Wrong. Numerous posts on here insinuate and state that its always the Tories and that the corruption is the worst examples of any government ever etc etc.
Sorry, that's false and hyperbole. Nothing wrong with me saying that and providing examples.
The Tories should be condemned, but don't think the curse of corruption doesn't haunt other parties because it does.
No one has said it's the worst example of any government ever.
Go to bed :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
No, not stereotypes just plain truth. There's nothing more corrupt than a Tory. Sleaze, greed and selfishness. What a wonderful benefit to humankind.
Are you 16?
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Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
No, you didn't, but you said it was a lot worse than other governments and I would argue that that probably isn't true. It just seems worse at the time as other corruption scandals get forgotton.
And I tried to illustrate that.
Then Croesy woke up from god knows what he's been doing and called me a freak and here we are.
Most governments in your lifetime have been Tory, so you are saying that the Tories are usually as bad as this, and I don't think that's true.
The Tories do not usually operate on this level. I'm actually defending them in general!
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Most governments in your lifetime have been Tory, so you are saying that the Tories are usually as bad as this, and I don't think that's true.
The Tories do not usually operate on this level. I'm actually defending them in general!
It's always gone on. You think the lobbying is new? The outside earnings? Cash for questions? Favours for mates?
None of it is remotely new
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Exactly. In fact, this argument is kinder on the Tories because it means they are usually a lot better than this. James doesn't realise he's damning them more by saying the current behaviour is usual.
I'm happy to damn them!
I'm just not happy with others donning red roses and dog collars and praising Jesus like saints
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Are you 16?
Is that some sort of code? What an odd fellow?
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Originally Posted by
lardy
No one has said it's the worst example of any government ever.
Go to bed :hehe:
I will go to bed now but I refuse to give you the satisfaction of thinking it's because you told me to! 🤣
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Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
No, you didn't, but you said it was a lot worse than other governments and I would argue that that probably isn't true. It just seems worse at the time as other corruption scandals get forgotton.
And I tried to illustrate that.
Then Croesy woke up from god knows what he's been doing and called me a freak and here we are.
You are being a complete boot licking servile freak. Just because you voted for someone doesn’t mean you can’t criticise them.
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
You are being a complete boot licking servile freak. Just because you voted for someone doesn’t mean you can’t criticise them.
I have criticised them. On numerous times, today! On this very thread you are writing on!
The fact I'm also criticising you doesnt mean I've not criticised them.
I think you accidentally copied in your porn hub search text with that boot licking servile freak line
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Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
I'm just not happy with others donning red roses and dog collars and praising Jesus like saints
Where has that happened?
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Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
The fact we’ve got through Cummins, Hancock and now this with people still supporting a political party like a football team really shows what a bunch of servile thick ***** live in this country.
Lack of education and rise of social media while murdoch owns a load of our press has ****ed us.
Rupert Murdoch has done more than anyone else to destroy democracy and create minority rule in the UK and the US.
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Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Where has that happened?
He should read the thread about Labour leaders - as always with threads about that party, many Tory critics on here were also critical of the Labour Party.
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Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..
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Originally Posted by
lardy
No one has said it's the worst example of any government ever.
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But now you mention it.
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Johnson's lot have taken the lying and corruption to a whole new level.
And it's not just because of the pandemic either.
When you elect a Prime Minister who's been sacked twice for lying, don't expect anything different.
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Originally Posted by
Undercoverinwurzelland
Johnson's lot have taken the lying and corruption to a whole new level.
And it's not just because of the pandemic either.
When you elect a Prime Minister who's been sacked twice for lying, don't expect anything different.
Politicians and lying, wow there’s a new phenomenon. Any remember Tony Bliar? Even changed his name slightly to suit him better:hehe:
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Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
I'm only messing. Although it is laughable and somewhat disrespectful when people throw the word 'fascism' around like confetti
This Tory government is full of fascists, wake up.