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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
What leads you to believe that it isn’t?
I presume you have read the letter from CCFC which seemed believable to me at least. In case you haven't read the letter the following extract may help:
"The organisation known as Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust was de-registered as a mutual organisation/Trust from the Financial Conduct Authority in 2016 and does not meet the Football Supporters Associations (FSA’s) basic minimum requirements."
Of course there is always the possibility the club is incorrect.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
Vindec
I presume you have read the letter from CCFC…..
I read the statement from CCFC. It was bollocks.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I read the statement from CCFC. It was bollocks.
So, in your view the Trust is a Trust. Fair enough but I'm not entirely sure that the "Trusts" response precisely contradicts the club's view as it states they are recognised as a group by the Football Supporters Association since it ceased to be a formal Mutual Society (whatever that means) and they are in the final stages of registration as a formal Community Society. No where does the "Trust" seem to actually deny that they are not a Trust but there is ambiguity because of the language used. In essence the club's original response (statement) is not "bollocks" in my view but is only "bollocks" in respect of the disrespect it shows to a group of fans.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
This club is full of shit
No wonder many walked away after the red episode
This sort of bullying bullshit from the clowns running our football club make me wonder how many other of our most hard-core fans will thrown in the towel
It's an amateurish way for a professional organisation to behave
And the supporters club ? ........stooges
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
Vindec
So, in your view the Trust is a Trust. Fair enough but I'm not entirely sure that the "Trusts" response precisely contradicts the club's view as it states they are recognised as a group by the Football Supporters Association since it ceased to be a formal Mutual Society (whatever that means) and they are in the final stages of registration as a formal Community Society. No where does the "Trust" seem to actually deny that they are not a Trust but there is ambiguity because of the language used. In essence the club's original response (statement) is not "bollocks" in my view but is only "bollocks" in respect of the disrespect it shows to a group of fans.
Fair enough. In my view it’s just bollocks.
The club is now apparently refusing to recognise the Trust as an ‘official entity’ because of a deregistration that allegedly occurred in 2016. However, the club has had numerous dealings with the Trust since 2016. Also, I presume CCSC hold no such registration with the Financial Conduct Authority, and yet the club is content to recognise them as an official entity.
I wonder why that is?
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
I have a generally favourable view of the trust, and I've got no doubt that a lot of the criticism of the club is entirely warranted.
However, writing an open letter to someone's boss complaining about a lack of response is probably not the best way of cultivating an ongoing relationship.
if someone did that to my boss I would understandably be pissed off.
I guess that it probably came out of frustration at a lack of engagement, but there are probably better ways of going about things.
I'm not really a fan of open letters in general tbh, they always come across as a bit self-important.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
It’s not true at all. It’s absolute nonsense. Football supporters are not even close to being on a par with cinema goers.
Nobody ‘supports’ a cinema. Nobody travels all over the country (or Europe) supporting their local cinema while it competes with rival cinemas. Nobody buys cinema merchandise. Nobody joins a cinema supporters club. Nobody wears a replica cinema shirt. There are no cinema league tables, no cinema championships, no cinema play-offs, no cinema cup competitions. Nobody cares who manages a cinema or who works in a cinema. Nobody debates the merits or otherwise of cinemas on tv shows, radio shows, websites, podcasts, in newspapers, in magazines, in fanzines, etc, etc, etc.
Don’t tell me an intelligent guy like you ever really thought that football supporters are just like cinema goers?
You’re right to suggest that Cardiff City supporters are considered to be no more than customers by the current regime, but that’s certainly not been the case throughout the club’s history and it’s not the case at most professional football clubs either.
That’s all very romantic, but you and i are still only customers at Cardiff City football club.
By the way, Cineworld are above the Odeon on goal difference 👍
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
Fair enough. In my view it’s just bollocks.
The club is now apparently refusing to recognise the Trust as an ‘official entity’ because of a deregistration that allegedly occurred in 2016. However, the club has had numerous dealings with the Trust since 2016. Also, I presume CCSC hold no such registration with the Financial Conduct Authority, and yet the club is content to recognise them as an official entity.
I wonder why that is?
I think this exchange is over. You asked me "what leads you to believe that it isn’t" a Trust? I have hopefully answered your question.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
I have a generally favourable view of the trust, and I've got no doubt that a lot of the criticism of the club is entirely warranted.
However, writing an open letter to someone's boss complaining about a lack of response is probably not the best way of cultivating an ongoing relationship.
if someone did that to my boss I would understandably be pissed off.
I guess that it probably came out of frustration at a lack of engagement, but there are probably better ways of going about things.
I'm not really a fan of open letters in general tbh, they always come across as a bit self-important.
So if you work in a bank and someone writes to you complaining about the boss you would be pissed off ?
Wouldn't you just send the letter to the boss to deal with it ?
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
So if you work in a bank and someone writes to you complaining about the boss you would be pissed off ?
Wouldn't you just send the letter to the boss to deal with it ?
no, I think you've misunderstood here.
if someone wrote to my boss complaining about me then I'd be pissed off.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
:thumbup: Supporting a football (other sports too) club is definitely a unique situation.
Think you and the Gunman are making it out to be a ‘unique’ situation
You pay your dough, have a few bevvies, go to the game, join in some childish chant’s, go berserk when they score, boo when they’re shite, more bevvy, then go home. Add on a few hrs to all that if you go to away games.
Supporters wanting to poke their beaks into everything that goes on in the boardroom are maybe unique, but luckily thats only a few in the grand scheme of things.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
Former Labour leader
I fund the whole row strange.
What is really behind it?
A few folk on the outside, wanting to be on the inside.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
A few folk on the outside, wanting to be on the inside.
For somebody who only wants to go to games you have an awful lot to say on the matter.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
Best post so far 👍
Your standards aren’t very high.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
Baloo
For somebody who only wants to go to games you have an awful lot to say on the matter.
Your point is caller?
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Your point is caller?
Keep out of it nosey.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Think you and the Gunman are making it out to be a ‘unique’ situation
You pay your dough, have a few bevvies, go to the game, join in some childish chant’s, go berserk when they score, boo when they’re shite, more bevvy, then go home. Add on a few hrs to all that if you go to away games.
Supporters wanting to poke their beaks into everything that goes on in the boardroom are maybe unique, but luckily thats only a few in the grand scheme of things.
Of course it's a unique situation.
The emotional attachment is colossal.
Who would miss work and travel from South Wales to Middlesbrough on a Wednesday night for a nothing game if the emotional attachment wasn't there?
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
Baloo
Keep out of it nosey.
Very droll. Must try harrder. 👍
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Think you and the Gunman are making it out to be a ‘unique’ situation
You pay your dough, have a few bevvies, go to the game, join in some childish chant’s, go berserk when they score, boo when they’re shite, more bevvy, then go home. Add on a few hrs to all that if you go to away games.
Supporters wanting to poke their beaks into everything that goes on in the boardroom are maybe unique, but luckily thats only a few in the grand scheme of things.
But if they found something red hot you would be saying oh I always supported the trust .....
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Very droll. Must try harrder. 👍
Whatever happened to that black athlete wrongly stopped by the police that you said us whiteys were just supporting because it was trendy ?
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
Of course it's a unique situation.
The emotional attachment is colossal.
Who would miss work and travel from South Wales to Middlesbrough on a Wednesday night for a nothing game if the emotional attachment wasn't there?
We’re going off on tangents now. “Massive emotional attachment” is a bit strong.
It’s just a hobby, albeit expensive and time consuming, but still just a hobby.
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
A few folk on the outside, wanting to be on the inside.
Ladies and gentlemen this is why we have a shit trust
Our very own fans stabbing it in the back , from behind the bushes
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Whatever happened to that black athlete wrongly stopped by the police that you said us whiteys were just supporting because it was trendy ?
Are you pissed this early in the day? You need to get a job 👍
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Are you pissed this early in the day? You need to get a job 👍
I remember well what you said as if we whiteys could not be offended by racism . Keep your ears to the ground .
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Re: Trust..CCFC big row brewing
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Must try harrder. 👍
Great comeback boss.