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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:37
Isn't that a rather dismissive view of people who just use critical analysis to examine whether or not an event or incident has actually happened as it has been communicated to the public?
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:31
But these people aren't even in the region, they are in their bedrooms scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports with the pre-notion it's a conspiracy.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:24
Globally we have hundreds of investigative journalists who take the time and effort to chase down news stories and look into them in a level of detail that you won't normally find in a corporate owned news media.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:18
You wouldn't refer to someone of the stature as John Pilger as lurking in his "bedroom scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports". Look at all of the conspiracy theories that he has dealt with during his career, which have simply turned out to be conspiracy facts.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:10
Pilger doesn't believe 911 was an inside job or ISIS don't exist though.
I disagree, ISIS was formed to fight our forces in Iraq. We left and they defeated the cowardly Iraqi army, seizing there military hardware, thus allowing them to gain a foothold in the region.
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:57
Isn't that a rather dismissive view of people who just use critical analysis to examine whether or not an event or incident has actually happened as it has been communicated to the public?
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:37
But these people aren't even in the region, they are in their bedrooms scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports with the pre-notion it's a conspiracy.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:31
Globally we have hundreds of investigative journalists who take the time and effort to chase down news stories and look into them in a level of detail that you won't normally find in a corporate owned news media.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:24
You wouldn't refer to someone of the stature as John Pilger as lurking in his "bedroom scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports". Look at all of the conspiracy theories that he has dealt with during his career, which have simply turned out to be conspiracy facts.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:18
Pilger doesn't believe 911 was an inside job or ISIS don't exist though.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:10
Let's stick with ISIS first of all. They were armed, supplied, and trained by the West. With the full knowledge and approval of Western governments. Our NATO partners have allowed individuals to cross closed borders to go along and join them. There have been constant air drops of supplies to them both lethal and non-lethal from the West while the West has allowed ISIS to sell oil on the open market without any restrictions whatsoever.
It's an interesting conspiracy theory but unfortunately we had a Foreign Secretary, William Hague who threw his full support behind providing finance and supplies to groups who later went on to affiliate themselves with ISIS. It's all a matter of public record, no conspiracy theory.
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
Regardless of how they formed.. (i obviously agree with Richyrich here), can each conspiracy theorist please eventually state what/who ISIS supposedly are (that's if you believe they exist at all). Right now i'm wondering how far fetched some of these views are going to get. That they are all holograms perhaps?
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:25
Regardless of how they formed.. (i obviously agree with Richyrich here), can each conspiracy theorist please eventually state what/who ISIS supposedly are (that's if you believe they exist at all). Right now i'm wondering how far fetched some of these views are going to get. That they are all holograms perhaps?
If I understand you correctly you are prepared to ignore all available evidence as to the formation, supply, training, and armaments that Western governments have given to a Sunni terrorist organisation. One which was encouraged to overthrow a Shiite government in Iraq which was being supported by Iran.
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
Just stuck BBC news on..(i know..i know.. how naive of me). The story of the teacher who was jailed after his family (good on them) secretly recorded him saying he was about to join Islamic state to murder some people in the name of religion. BBC played the recording. Assuming it is fake then those actors need an Oscar. Fantastic stuff.
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:33
Just stuck BBC news on..(i know..i know.. how naive of me). The story of the teacher who was jailed after his family (good on them) secretly recorded him saying he was about to join Islamic state to murder some people in the name of religion. BBC played the recording. Assuming it is fake then those actors need an Oscar. Fantastic stuff.
If you followed closely you will have also seen reports of ISIS members who were dissatisfied being executed for trying to leave and return to their home countries.
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:33
Just stuck BBC news on..(i know..i know.. how naive of me). The story of the teacher who was jailed after his family (good on them) secretly recorded him saying he was about to join Islamic state to murder some people in the name of religion. BBC played the recording. Assuming it is fake then those actors need an Oscar. Fantastic stuff.
Got his brother killed as well, really took one for the corporate team that family, just to pull the wool over our eyes.
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:41
Just stuck BBC news on..(i know..i know.. how naive of me). The story of the teacher who was jailed after his family (good on them) secretly recorded him saying he was about to join Islamic state to murder some people in the name of religion. BBC played the recording. Assuming it is fake then those actors need an Oscar. Fantastic stuff.
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:33
Got his brother killed as well, really took one for the corporate team that family, just to pull the wool over our eyes.
It's not a new phenomenon. Is it?
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:03
Isn't that a rather dismissive view of people who just use critical analysis to examine whether or not an event or incident has actually happened as it has been communicated to the public?
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:57
But these people aren't even in the region, they are in their bedrooms scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports with the pre-notion it's a conspiracy.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:37
Globally we have hundreds of investigative journalists who take the time and effort to chase down news stories and look into them in a level of detail that you won't normally find in a corporate owned news media.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:31
You wouldn't refer to someone of the stature as John Pilger as lurking in his "bedroom scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports". Look at all of the conspiracy theories that he has dealt with during his career, which have simply turned out to be conspiracy facts.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:24
Pilger doesn't believe 911 was an inside job or ISIS don't exist though.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:18
Let's stick with ISIS first of all. They were armed, supplied, and trained by the West. With the full knowledge and approval of Western governments. Our NATO partners have allowed individuals to cross closed borders to go along and join them. There have been constant air drops of supplies to them both lethal and non-lethal from the West while the West has allowed ISIS to sell oil on the open market without any restrictions whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:10
I disagree, ISIS was formed to fight our forces in Iraq. We left and they defeated the cowardly Iraqi army, seizing there military hardware, thus allowing them to gain a foothold in the region.
One thing I do know is, that our governments have our (The West's) interest at heart.
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:53
Isn't that a rather dismissive view of people who just use critical analysis to examine whether or not an event or incident has actually happened as it has been communicated to the public?
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:03
But these people aren't even in the region, they are in their bedrooms scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports with the pre-notion it's a conspiracy.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:57
Globally we have hundreds of investigative journalists who take the time and effort to chase down news stories and look into them in a level of detail that you won't normally find in a corporate owned news media.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:37
You wouldn't refer to someone of the stature as John Pilger as lurking in his "bedroom scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports". Look at all of the conspiracy theories that he has dealt with during his career, which have simply turned out to be conspiracy facts.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:31
Pilger doesn't believe 911 was an inside job or ISIS don't exist though.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:24
Let's stick with ISIS first of all. They were armed, supplied, and trained by the West. With the full knowledge and approval of Western governments. Our NATO partners have allowed individuals to cross closed borders to go along and join them. There have been constant air drops of supplies to them both lethal and non-lethal from the West while the West has allowed ISIS to sell oil on the open market without any restrictions whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:18
I disagree, ISIS was formed to fight our forces in Iraq. We left and they defeated the cowardly Iraqi army, seizing there military hardware, thus allowing them to gain a foothold in the region.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:10
It's an interesting conspiracy theory but unfortunately we had a Foreign Secretary, William Hague who threw his full support behind providing finance and supplies to groups who later went on to affiliate themselves with ISIS. It's all a matter of public record, no conspiracy theory.
What's complicated? It's being reported on 24/7 on all sorts of channels. Israel has carried out six bombing missions inside Syria against a government that is fighting against the terrorist organisation ISIS. So please remind me again who is it that has the West's interests at heart?
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:31
Regardless of how they formed.. (i obviously agree with Richyrich here), can each conspiracy theorist please eventually state what/who ISIS supposedly are (that's if you believe they exist at all). Right now i'm wondering how far fetched some of these views are going to get. That they are all holograms perhaps?
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:25
If I understand you correctly you are prepared to ignore all available evidence as to the formation, supply, training, and armaments that Western governments have given to a Sunni terrorist organisation. One which was encouraged to overthrow a Shiite government in Iraq which was being supported by Iran.
Syria, like a lot ot its neighbouring countries are a complete mess. I remember watching the most horrific video on youtube of the Syrian army beating to death a room full of Syrian rebels and laughing while they filmed it. It's stayed with me until today and in ways I wish i could unsee it. Whatever our foreign policies have been, and yes, i do believe that in the past they have done more harm than good, our country is NOT responsible for these evil b*stards existing and acting as they do. If you have a virus and it mutates into something even worse then then that can't just easily be predicted, it can only be managed. That's all ISIS is, a virus to hummanity which needs to be wiped out. The trouble is, our governments are now so politically aware, that they don't want to be seen as aggressors and war mongerors again. Which is why we haven't gone to ground and why we have gone to great lengths to ensure it is a coalition doing the fighting, with our involvement limited to aerial bombins and training armies. Added to that..we have an increasing amount of borderline nutjobs (thanks to immigration), who are easily radicalised in this country by ISIS propoganda videos under the guise of religion, and our government knows that it has to be very careful not to add fuel to the terrorist threat.
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:58
Isn't that a rather dismissive view of people who just use critical analysis to examine whether or not an event or incident has actually happened as it has been communicated to the public?
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:53
But these people aren't even in the region, they are in their bedrooms scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports with the pre-notion it's a conspiracy.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:03
Globally we have hundreds of investigative journalists who take the time and effort to chase down news stories and look into them in a level of detail that you won't normally find in a corporate owned news media.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:57
You wouldn't refer to someone of the stature as John Pilger as lurking in his "bedroom scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports". Look at all of the conspiracy theories that he has dealt with during his career, which have simply turned out to be conspiracy facts.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:37
Pilger doesn't believe 911 was an inside job or ISIS don't exist though.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:31
Let's stick with ISIS first of all. They were armed, supplied, and trained by the West. With the full knowledge and approval of Western governments. Our NATO partners have allowed individuals to cross closed borders to go along and join them. There have been constant air drops of supplies to them both lethal and non-lethal from the West while the West has allowed ISIS to sell oil on the open market without any restrictions whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:24
I disagree, ISIS was formed to fight our forces in Iraq. We left and they defeated the cowardly Iraqi army, seizing there military hardware, thus allowing them to gain a foothold in the region.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:18
It's an interesting conspiracy theory but unfortunately we had a Foreign Secretary, William Hague who threw his full support behind providing finance and supplies to groups who later went on to affiliate themselves with ISIS. It's all a matter of public record, no conspiracy theory.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:10
Groups were provided with support, some are still in conflict with ISIS some are not. It is complicated there and I don't really have a scooby whats going on but neither do you.
Are you saying the west doesn't have it's own interests at heart?
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:41
Just stuck BBC news on..(i know..i know.. how naive of me). The story of the teacher who was jailed after his family (good on them) secretly recorded him saying he was about to join Islamic state to murder some people in the name of religion. BBC played the recording. Assuming it is fake then those actors need an Oscar. Fantastic stuff.
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:33
Yes! He's been radicalised. It happens all the time. That's why we have people de-programming those that have been attracted into all sorts of cult organisations around the world.
Well unless i'm misunderstanding you, i don't disagree with that, obviously. It's just common sense. I want to know where all the conspiracy theorists who were piping up before have gone.
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 23:05
Regardless of how they formed.. (i obviously agree with Richyrich here), can each conspiracy theorist please eventually state what/who ISIS supposedly are (that's if you believe they exist at all). Right now i'm wondering how far fetched some of these views are going to get. That they are all holograms perhaps?
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:31
If I understand you correctly you are prepared to ignore all available evidence as to the formation, supply, training, and armaments that Western governments have given to a Sunni terrorist organisation. One which was encouraged to overthrow a Shiite government in Iraq which was being supported by Iran.
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:25
Tell me who ISIS are in your opinion at this current time. Ffs surely it can't be that difficult?
Explain why those "moderate rebels" turned out to be ISIS and to have an agenda all of their own?
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 23:10
Isn't that a rather dismissive view of people who just use critical analysis to examine whether or not an event or incident has actually happened as it has been communicated to the public?
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:58
But these people aren't even in the region, they are in their bedrooms scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports with the pre-notion it's a conspiracy.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:53
Globally we have hundreds of investigative journalists who take the time and effort to chase down news stories and look into them in a level of detail that you won't normally find in a corporate owned news media.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:03
You wouldn't refer to someone of the stature as John Pilger as lurking in his "bedroom scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports". Look at all of the conspiracy theories that he has dealt with during his career, which have simply turned out to be conspiracy facts.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:57
Pilger doesn't believe 911 was an inside job or ISIS don't exist though.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:37
Let's stick with ISIS first of all. They were armed, supplied, and trained by the West. With the full knowledge and approval of Western governments. Our NATO partners have allowed individuals to cross closed borders to go along and join them. There have been constant air drops of supplies to them both lethal and non-lethal from the West while the West has allowed ISIS to sell oil on the open market without any restrictions whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:31
I disagree, ISIS was formed to fight our forces in Iraq. We left and they defeated the cowardly Iraqi army, seizing there military hardware, thus allowing them to gain a foothold in the region.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:24
It's an interesting conspiracy theory but unfortunately we had a Foreign Secretary, William Hague who threw his full support behind providing finance and supplies to groups who later went on to affiliate themselves with ISIS. It's all a matter of public record, no conspiracy theory.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:18
Groups were provided with support, some are still in conflict with ISIS some are not. It is complicated there and I don't really have a scooby whats going on but neither do you.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:10
One thing I do know is, that our governments have our (The West's) interest at heart.
Apparently he is suggesting that the west doesn't have its own interests at heart Richy... calling global politics uncomplicated is ridiculous. I've often thought that Russian officials at times must be sitting back and loving the Islamic extremists battling the USA and America. For conspiracy theorists to suggest that it benefits our government to have a 50,000 strong (i think) terrorist state declaring war on our government in the way that they do beggars belief.
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 23:14
Regardless of how they formed.. (i obviously agree with Richyrich here), can each conspiracy theorist please eventually state what/who ISIS supposedly are (that's if you believe they exist at all). Right now i'm wondering how far fetched some of these views are going to get. That they are all holograms perhaps?
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 23:05
If I understand you correctly you are prepared to ignore all available evidence as to the formation, supply, training, and armaments that Western governments have given to a Sunni terrorist organisation. One which was encouraged to overthrow a Shiite government in Iraq which was being supported by Iran.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:31
Tell me who ISIS are in your opinion at this current time. Ffs surely it can't be that difficult?
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:25
Syria, like a lot ot its neighbouring countries are a complete mess. I remember watching the most horrific video on youtube of the Syrian army beating to death a room full of Syrian rebels and laughing while they filmed it. It's stayed with me until today and in ways I wish i could unsee it. Whatever our foreign policies have been, and yes, i do believe that in the past they have done more harm than good, our country is NOT responsible for these evil b*stards existing and acting as they do. If you have a virus and it mutates into something even worse then then that can't just easily be predicted, it can only be managed. That's all ISIS is, a virus to hummanity which needs to be wiped out. The trouble is, our governments are now so politically aware, that they don't want to be seen as aggressors and war mongerors again. Which is why we haven't gone to ground and why we have gone to great lengths to ensure it is a coalition doing the fighting, with our involvement limited to aerial bombins and training armies. Added to that..we have an increasing amount of borderline nutjobs (thanks to immigration), who are easily radicalised in this country by ISIS propoganda videos under the guise of religion, and our government knows that it has to be very careful not to add fuel to the terrorist threat.
Rich arabs funded them from Saudi and the Emirates plus looting in Iraq and selling black market oil.
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 23:14
Regardless of how they formed.. (i obviously agree with Richyrich here), can each conspiracy theorist please eventually state what/who ISIS supposedly are (that's if you believe they exist at all). Right now i'm wondering how far fetched some of these views are going to get. That they are all holograms perhaps?
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 23:05
If I understand you correctly you are prepared to ignore all available evidence as to the formation, supply, training, and armaments that Western governments have given to a Sunni terrorist organisation. One which was encouraged to overthrow a Shiite government in Iraq which was being supported by Iran.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:31
Tell me who ISIS are in your opinion at this current time. Ffs surely it can't be that difficult?
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:25
Syria, like a lot ot its neighbouring countries are a complete mess. I remember watching the most horrific video on youtube of the Syrian army beating to death a room full of Syrian rebels and laughing while they filmed it. It's stayed with me until today and in ways I wish i could unsee it. Whatever our foreign policies have been, and yes, i do believe that in the past they have done more harm than good, our country is NOT responsible for these evil b*stards existing and acting as they do. If you have a virus and it mutates into something even worse then then that can't just easily be predicted, it can only be managed. That's all ISIS is, a virus to hummanity which needs to be wiped out. The trouble is, our governments are now so politically aware, that they don't want to be seen as aggressors and war mongerors again. Which is why we haven't gone to ground and why we have gone to great lengths to ensure it is a coalition doing the fighting, with our involvement limited to aerial bombins and training armies. Added to that..we have an increasing amount of borderline nutjobs (thanks to immigration), who are easily radicalised in this country by ISIS propoganda videos under the guise of religion, and our government knows that it has to be very careful not to add fuel to the terrorist threat.
..so you still can't answer the question which i have now asked about 5 times..
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 14:20
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 13:31
Incredible what some people believe. I'm in disbelief at what I'm reading. It's hard to argue with...but only because I don't know which ridiculous statement amongst all that to begin with.
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 13:25
Disappointed by the disparate views presented here Bryndon?
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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 12:29
Hey now! don't suffer little feller, why pop yourself along to Planet Swans instead?
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 12:27
The home of fine debate, insightful opinion and moderate views.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 12:23
Well the trouble there is, it's just so predictable. There i have to read about my football team being successful and top 10 in the PL. It's pretty tough going.
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 10:54
Anyway back on topic. I'd love to hear more from the scary number of
conspitavy theorists on here about who ISIS actually are then...exactly that is. Who's making the videos, what our governments role is and how the cost of war (which we haven't even really involved ourselves in) is somehow favourable. It's nearly mid day and I need a laugh. But
i'm guessing some of these nutters
aren't stoned enough yet..
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Originally Posted by Vimana. wrote on Wed, 04 March 2015 23:41
They might not be... are you though....?
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Wed, 04 March 2015 23:08
Phone text issues!
I'm Clearly offside, I was never Caught Offside, are you re-writing history to fit your own agenda? http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sherlock.gif Haulocaust denier ffs
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 23:23
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 14:20
Incredible what some people believe. I'm in disbelief at what I'm reading. It's hard to argue with...but only because I don't know which ridiculous statement amongst all that to begin with.
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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 13:31
Disappointed by the disparate views presented here Bryndon?
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 13:25
Hey now! don't suffer little feller, why pop yourself along to Planet Swans instead?
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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 12:29
The home of fine debate, insightful opinion and moderate views.
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 12:27
Well the trouble there is, it's just so predictable. There i have to read about my football team being successful and top 10 in the PL. It's pretty tough going.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 12:23
Anyway back on topic. I'd love to hear more from the scary number of
conspitavy theorists on here about who ISIS actually are then...exactly that is. Who's making the videos, what our governments role is and how the cost of war (which we haven't even really involved ourselves in) is somehow favourable. It's nearly mid day and I need a laugh. But
i'm guessing some of these nutters
aren't stoned enough yet..
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 10:54
They might not be... are you though....?
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Originally Posted by Vimana. wrote on Wed, 04 March 2015 23:41
Phone text issues!
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Wed, 04 March 2015 23:08
where are the conspiracy theorists? I want an explanation of who ISIS are... is jihadi john really David Cameron with make up and a balaclava?
Clearly, caught...i apologise. So tell me who ISIS are in your words..if they exist.
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 23:10
Isn't that a rather dismissive view of people who just use critical analysis to examine whether or not an event or incident has actually happened as it has been communicated to the public?
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:58
But these people aren't even in the region, they are in their bedrooms scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports with the pre-notion it's a conspiracy.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:53
Globally we have hundreds of investigative journalists who take the time and effort to chase down news stories and look into them in a level of detail that you won't normally find in a corporate owned news media.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:03
You wouldn't refer to someone of the stature as John Pilger as lurking in his "bedroom scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports". Look at all of the conspiracy theories that he has dealt with during his career, which have simply turned out to be conspiracy facts.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:57
Pilger doesn't believe 911 was an inside job or ISIS don't exist though.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:37
Let's stick with ISIS first of all. They were armed, supplied, and trained by the West. With the full knowledge and approval of Western governments. Our NATO partners have allowed individuals to cross closed borders to go along and join them. There have been constant air drops of supplies to them both lethal and non-lethal from the West while the West has allowed ISIS to sell oil on the open market without any restrictions whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:31
I disagree, ISIS was formed to fight our forces in Iraq. We left and they defeated the cowardly Iraqi army, seizing there military hardware, thus allowing them to gain a foothold in the region.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:24
It's an interesting conspiracy theory but unfortunately we had a Foreign Secretary, William Hague who threw his full support behind providing finance and supplies to groups who later went on to affiliate themselves with ISIS. It's all a matter of public record, no conspiracy theory.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:18
Groups were provided with support, some are still in conflict with ISIS some are not. It is complicated there and I don't really have a scooby whats going on but neither do you.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:10
One thing I do know is, that our governments have our (The West's) interest at heart.
t.co/xUBSaSdJbU
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 19:47
'clearly offside' has suggested that ISIS don't actually exist and that pretty much anything wrong with the world (that we hear about at least) is down to our government. It would be interesting to hear specifics.
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 18:04
The trouble with conspiracy theorists is that they are very lazy. It is so easy to create a conspiracy theory - I could create a theory right now with no effort at all for pretty much event that has ever happened. And you know what? There would be enough loons out there to believe every one of those theories I created, because certain people are scared to death of being fooled or being the easily led 'sheep'.
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 17:38
Are you aware of the conspiracy theory of fake conspiracy theories being circulated to discredit the genuine conspiracy theories?
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 17:26
I'm aware of the fact that too many people talk too much sh*t and that a lot of these people must go to bed only after checking their cupboards to see who/what might be watching them.
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 16:58
Are you saying that propaganda and disinformation do not exist?
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 16:55
It depends which country you live in. We are very lucky to live in a society which is very open and free...sometimes in ways I think maybe too open. I think as a result our country is increasinly seen as quite 'soft' on a world level. If you live in North Korea or even China then their knowledge of the outside world is so limited that it is easy to feed them propoganda.
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 16:36
I just want to hear who ISIS REALLY are (apparently) and what the big conspiracy is, in someones own words.
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 13:25
Why don't you find it out for yourself?
Once the people are indoctrinated with nationalistic beliefs, and the infrastructure to protect them from some constantly-changing and ever-expanding definition of an enemy is in place, there is no ability for the people to regain liberty. By the time all of the pieces are in place, not only is opportunity to regain freedom lost, but the will to achieve freedom has also evaporated. The reader will truly love Big Brother.
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 23:19
Isn't that a rather dismissive view of people who just use critical analysis to examine whether or not an event or incident has actually happened as it has been communicated to the public?
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 23:10
But these people aren't even in the region, they are in their bedrooms scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports with the pre-notion it's a conspiracy.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:58
Globally we have hundreds of investigative journalists who take the time and effort to chase down news stories and look into them in a level of detail that you won't normally find in a corporate owned news media.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:53
You wouldn't refer to someone of the stature as John Pilger as lurking in his "bedroom scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports". Look at all of the conspiracy theories that he has dealt with during his career, which have simply turned out to be conspiracy facts.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:03
Pilger doesn't believe 911 was an inside job or ISIS don't exist though.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:57
Let's stick with ISIS first of all. They were armed, supplied, and trained by the West. With the full knowledge and approval of Western governments. Our NATO partners have allowed individuals to cross closed borders to go along and join them. There have been constant air drops of supplies to them both lethal and non-lethal from the West while the West has allowed ISIS to sell oil on the open market without any restrictions whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:37
I disagree, ISIS was formed to fight our forces in Iraq. We left and they defeated the cowardly Iraqi army, seizing there military hardware, thus allowing them to gain a foothold in the region.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:31
It's an interesting conspiracy theory but unfortunately we had a Foreign Secretary, William Hague who threw his full support behind providing finance and supplies to groups who later went on to affiliate themselves with ISIS. It's all a matter of public record, no conspiracy theory.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:24
Groups were provided with support, some are still in conflict with ISIS some are not. It is complicated there and I don't really have a scooby whats going on but neither do you.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:18
One thing I do know is, that our governments have our (The West's) interest at heart.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:10
What's complicated? It's being reported on 24/7 on all sorts of channels. Israel has carried out six bombing missions inside Syria against a government that is fighting against the terrorist organisation ISIS. So please remind me again who is it that has the West's interests at heart?
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif bonkers.
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 23:27
Isn't that a rather dismissive view of people who just use critical analysis to examine whether or not an event or incident has actually happened as it has been communicated to the public?
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 23:10
But these people aren't even in the region, they are in their bedrooms scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports with the pre-notion it's a conspiracy.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:58
Globally we have hundreds of investigative journalists who take the time and effort to chase down news stories and look into them in a level of detail that you won't normally find in a corporate owned news media.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:53
You wouldn't refer to someone of the stature as John Pilger as lurking in his "bedroom scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports". Look at all of the conspiracy theories that he has dealt with during his career, which have simply turned out to be conspiracy facts.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:03
Pilger doesn't believe 911 was an inside job or ISIS don't exist though.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:57
Let's stick with ISIS first of all. They were armed, supplied, and trained by the West. With the full knowledge and approval of Western governments. Our NATO partners have allowed individuals to cross closed borders to go along and join them. There have been constant air drops of supplies to them both lethal and non-lethal from the West while the West has allowed ISIS to sell oil on the open market without any restrictions whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:37
I disagree, ISIS was formed to fight our forces in Iraq. We left and they defeated the cowardly Iraqi army, seizing there military hardware, thus allowing them to gain a foothold in the region.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:31
It's an interesting conspiracy theory but unfortunately we had a Foreign Secretary, William Hague who threw his full support behind providing finance and supplies to groups who later went on to affiliate themselves with ISIS. It's all a matter of public record, no conspiracy theory.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:24
Groups were provided with support, some are still in conflict with ISIS some are not. It is complicated there and I don't really have a scooby whats going on but neither do you.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:18
One thing I do know is, that our governments have our (The West's) interest at heart.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:10
What's complicated? It's being reported on 24/7 on all sorts of channels. Israel has carried out six bombing missions inside Syria against a government that is fighting against the terrorist organisation ISIS. So please remind me again who is it that has the West's interests at heart?
Just to point out that you were asked a question which wasn't answered and you've come back with about six. I think you're trying to play bingo with every point on our conspiracy theorist list. :)
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 23:27
Isn't that a rather dismissive view of people who just use critical analysis to examine whether or not an event or incident has actually happened as it has been communicated to the public?
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 23:10
But these people aren't even in the region, they are in their bedrooms scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports with the pre-notion it's a conspiracy.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:58
Globally we have hundreds of investigative journalists who take the time and effort to chase down news stories and look into them in a level of detail that you won't normally find in a corporate owned news media.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:53
You wouldn't refer to someone of the stature as John Pilger as lurking in his "bedroom scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports". Look at all of the conspiracy theories that he has dealt with during his career, which have simply turned out to be conspiracy facts.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:03
Pilger doesn't believe 911 was an inside job or ISIS don't exist though.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:57
Let's stick with ISIS first of all. They were armed, supplied, and trained by the West. With the full knowledge and approval of Western governments. Our NATO partners have allowed individuals to cross closed borders to go along and join them. There have been constant air drops of supplies to them both lethal and non-lethal from the West while the West has allowed ISIS to sell oil on the open market without any restrictions whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:37
I disagree, ISIS was formed to fight our forces in Iraq. We left and they defeated the cowardly Iraqi army, seizing there military hardware, thus allowing them to gain a foothold in the region.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:31
It's an interesting conspiracy theory but unfortunately we had a Foreign Secretary, William Hague who threw his full support behind providing finance and supplies to groups who later went on to affiliate themselves with ISIS. It's all a matter of public record, no conspiracy theory.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:24
Groups were provided with support, some are still in conflict with ISIS some are not. It is complicated there and I don't really have a scooby whats going on but neither do you.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:18
One thing I do know is, that our governments have our (The West's) interest at heart.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:10
What's complicated? It's being reported on 24/7 on all sorts of channels. Israel has carried out six bombing missions inside Syria against a government that is fighting against the terrorist organisation ISIS. So please remind me again who is it that has the West's interests at heart?
Are you naive enough not to believe China and Russia would love to be the world leaders?
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Re: Twitter Top Boy has been threatened
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Originally Posted by bryndon2 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 23:30
Isn't that a rather dismissive view of people who just use critical analysis to examine whether or not an event or incident has actually happened as it has been communicated to the public?
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 23:27
But these people aren't even in the region, they are in their bedrooms scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports with the pre-notion it's a conspiracy.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 23:10
Globally we have hundreds of investigative journalists who take the time and effort to chase down news stories and look into them in a level of detail that you won't normally find in a corporate owned news media.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:58
You wouldn't refer to someone of the stature as John Pilger as lurking in his "bedroom scouring the internet for the slightest discrepancies in reports". Look at all of the conspiracy theories that he has dealt with during his career, which have simply turned out to be conspiracy facts.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:53
Pilger doesn't believe 911 was an inside job or ISIS don't exist though.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 22:03
Let's stick with ISIS first of all. They were armed, supplied, and trained by the West. With the full knowledge and approval of Western governments. Our NATO partners have allowed individuals to cross closed borders to go along and join them. There have been constant air drops of supplies to them both lethal and non-lethal from the West while the West has allowed ISIS to sell oil on the open market without any restrictions whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:57
I disagree, ISIS was formed to fight our forces in Iraq. We left and they defeated the cowardly Iraqi army, seizing there military hardware, thus allowing them to gain a foothold in the region.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:37
It's an interesting conspiracy theory but unfortunately we had a Foreign Secretary, William Hague who threw his full support behind providing finance and supplies to groups who later went on to affiliate themselves with ISIS. It's all a matter of public record, no conspiracy theory.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:31
Groups were provided with support, some are still in conflict with ISIS some are not. It is complicated there and I don't really have a scooby whats going on but neither do you.
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:24
One thing I do know is, that our governments have our (The West's) interest at heart.
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Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:18
What's complicated? It's being reported on 24/7 on all sorts of channels. Israel has carried out six bombing missions inside Syria against a government that is fighting against the terrorist organisation ISIS. So please remind me again who is it that has the West's interests at heart?
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Thu, 05 March 2015 21:10
Exactly theres a bigger picture involving Russia and Iran v the west. It's complicated because there are many players in the conflict. Sectarian battles, Arabian tribes, Iran, Saudi, the Emirates, Russia, the US etc.
Those well funded Syrian rebels turned out to have a greater attraction to joining the fledgling ISIS organisation, than trying to continue with a suicidal attempt at overthrowing the Assad government.