Bundesliga 2

Leverkusen 1 up against 1 FCK in the German cup final. Xhaka the scorer. Leverkusen down to 10 men. Can't find it on TV anywhere.

They won. 0 - 1

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Originally Posted by Swiss Peter

Leverkusen 1 up against 1 FCK in the German cup final. Xhaka the scorer. Leverkusen down to 10 men. Can't find it on TV anywhere.

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It was on German terrestrial telly (Das Erste) if you were able to use some online jiggery pokery. (Sorry, didn't see your post until now otherwise I would've mentioned it earlier). The red card made it a bit more intriguing but Leverkusen saw it out well enough.

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Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Free Kling Klang studio tour for Swiss Peter.

No I don't think I've heard a football reference in their lyrics but appearances can be deceptive. Pretty sure they love their cycling judging by the remixes and updated versions they've done of Tour de France.

I saw them (or what's left of them) a few years ago in Bristol, really entertaining show complete with 3D glasses and retro computers flying overhead.

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Kling Klang is still there. I looked it up! Along with Conny Plank's converted pig farm on the southern outskirts of Cologne, and Schloss Nörvenich, where Can recorded their early albums, these are almost mythical shrines of my Krautrock loving teenage years and 20s :-) :music: .

Anyway...

The return leg is on the main sky sports channels tonight, though Bochum are surely doomed already.

The return leg is on the main sky sports channels tonight, though Bochum are surely doomed already.[/QUOTE]

and now it's 0-3 to Bochum in the return. This could be some last 20 plus minutes!.

FT: 0-3 (3-3 on agg)

Game going to extra time

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Originally Posted by Michael Morris

FT: 0-3 (3-3 on agg)

Game going to extra time

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Bloody hell

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Bloody hell

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Pens prob. Such a shit way to decide something as big as this.

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Originally Posted by Swiss Peter

Pens prob. Such a shit way to decide something as big as this.

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I agree, but over two legs especially seems fair enough.

I just find it bizarre they never replicate our play off system.

Bochum won on pens.

Dusseldorf will be beyond gutted. A home game with a 3-0 advantage..

It means another big club in a big ground with big attendances in 2.Bundesliga next season.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I just find it bizarre they never replicate our play off system.

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Agreed. All that effort (and, tonight, drama) just to keep everything as it was. Send three down and have the play-offs for 3rd-6th.

I see it’s been confirmed that the St Pauli head coach is the new Brighton manager at the age of 31.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I see it’s been confirmed that the St Pauli head coach is the new Brighton manager at the age of 31.

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Youngest ever Premier League manager? Be interesting to see how he gets on. As for St. Pauli, one or two of their key players are rumoured to be on their way too. Could be tough for them competing at the higher lever next season.

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Originally Posted by Swiss Peter

Youngest ever Premier League manager? Be interesting to see how he gets on. As for St. Pauli, one or two of their key players are rumoured to be on their way too. Could be tough for them competing at the higher lever next season.

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I can't think of a younger one, shame that about St. Pauli - they were being linked with that Motherwell striker we were supposed to be after, I suppose they'd be a more attractive proposition than us currently.

I think I would be a bit miffed as a St Pauli fan, or even a German football fan generally to see such a young successful manager leave for Brighton. I know Brighton have done well recently and no doubt offer a bigger salary and wage but it's a shame when managers who win promotion don't finish the job to keep them up. And St Pauli on paper could be every bit as big s club as Brighton, if not bigger.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I think I would be a bit miffed as a St Pauli fan, or even a German football fan generally to see such a young successful manager leave for Brighton. I know Brighton have done well recently and no doubt offer a bigger salary and wage but it's a shame when managers who win promotion don't finish the job to keep them up. And St Pauli on paper could be every bit as big s club as Brighton, if not bigger.

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Not sure.

St Pauli went straight down again after one season when promoted 13 odd years ago. Even given a general anti outside investment sentiment across German football, they are a club famous for doing things a bit differently, and they walk a tightrope between preserving the principles and values of the club/fans and exploiting opportunities for revenue generation and growing the club. Hard for them to compete - even against a Premier league club the size of Brighton. From what I've read the fans were pissed off but resigned to losing Hürzeler .

I noticed yesterday that half of the Euro24 stadiums are home to second tier clubs for 2024/25.

I'm sure that's never happened before and another example of the strength of the 2.Bundesliga

Mid-season break after this weekend. 4 points separate 1st and 10th.

Paderborn were top and were beaten 4-2 at home by stumbling Schalke. Kaiserlautern were going well and then got tonked 5-1 at mid-table (not that there seems to be one) Darmstadt.

Elversberg, who were in the regional leagues in 2022, are top, but Himmel knows how long that will continue. Different rules apply for the Bundesliga 2. (Except for poor old Regensburg, stranded at the bottom with 8 points and 7 goals from 16 games). So, Frohe Weihnachten to the maddest division around. Just don't put any money on who'll go up.

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Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays

Mid-season break after this weekend. 4 points separate 1st and 10th.

Paderborn were top and were beaten 4-2 at home by stumbling Schalke. Kaiserlautern were going well and then got tonked 5-1 at mid-table (not that there seems to be one) Darmstadt.

Elversberg, who were in the regional leagues in 2022, are top, but Himmel knows how long that will continue. Different rules apply for the Bundesliga 2. (Except for poor old Regensburg, stranded at the bottom with 8 points and 7 goals from 16 games). So, Frohe Weihnachten to the maddest division around. Just don't put any money on who'll go up.

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What a barmy table it is - Hannover have lost more than a third of their games, yet they’re two points off top.

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/2bundesliga/table

German football trivia facts of the day:

1. Borussia is the Latin form of Prussia
2. The German word for a penalty simply translates as 'an eleven metres'.
3. When playing for a German team don't literally translate phrases such as 'on the wing', 'on the head' , 'sweeper' etc. (I speak from experience).

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

German football trivia facts of the day:

1. Borussia is the Latin form of Prussia
2. The German word for a penalty simply translates as 'an eleven metres'.
3. When playing for a German team don't literally translate phrases such as 'on the wing', 'on the head' , 'sweeper' etc. (I speak from experience).

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Never heard that about a penalty in Germany. I can remember a book of photographs from the 1978 World Cup where West German captain Bertie Vogts was wearing a captain’s armband with the word “Spieilfuhrer” (sorry if I’ve got the spelling wrong) on it.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Never heard that about a penalty in Germany. I can remember a book of photographs from the 1978 World Cup where West German captain Bertie Vogts was wearing a captain’s armband with the word “Spieilfuhrer” (sorry if I’ve got the spelling wrong) on it.

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Bertie Vogts played in the first ever Bundesliga game I saw: Gladbach v Bayern and around 1978.. Also playing were Netzer, Gerd Müller, Beckenbauer, Stielike, Hoeness, Alan Simonsen, Sepp Maier and a host of world-class players.

As for the word 'Führer' it simply means leader and is used in many contexts that don't involve invading Poland :-)

By the way, Münich in Spanish = Monaco.

The names Mönchen (as in Gladbach), München, Monaco are cognate with the English words 'monk(s) / monasteries'

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Bertie Vogts played in the first ever Bundesliga game I saw: Gladbach v Bayern and around 1978.. Also playing were Netzer, Gerd Müller, Beckenbauer, Stielike, Hoeness, Alan Simonsen, Sepp Maier and a host of world-class players.

As for the word 'Führer' it simply means leader and is used in many contexts that don't involve invading Poland :-)

By the way, Münich in Spanish = Monaco.

The names Mönchen (as in Gladbach), München, Monaco are cognate with the English words 'monk(s) / monasteries'

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So does spielfuhrer come from the person who is allowed to the speak to officials or is it that he speaks on behalf of the team?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

So does spielfuhrer come from the person who is allowed to the speak to officials or is it that he speaks on behalf of the team?

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Team captain.

With apologies for resurrecting this one, but I know a few were interested. This last weekend broke records for overall attendances at the German second division level, helped by 71.5k at Hertha v HSV (link).

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/2bunde...-leagues-20541

A really odd one is that for a while on Saturday, before HSV and Köln played, Magdeburg were leading the table after 19 games - yet their home record this season is W0 D7 L2. How does that work? (Yeah, I know, lots of away wins 😊)

https://footystats.org/germany/2-bun...y-league-table