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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Maurice Swan
If Ugbo can get a tap in once in even every two games....I'd be happy....
He's doing his job to be fair. It's the rest of the shit show that needs work!
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
LA Bluebird
Solid defensively and puts the effort in but touch and passing range of a brick, judging on how he looked when he came off we won't be seeing him for a while anyway.
No vision either, I think the first pass into Ramsey came from Goutas due to our ponderous and negative midfield duo
There's this idea that Wintle controls games because he makes about 50 sideways passes, I don't think that's controlling the game at all just taking the safe option. For me, controlling the game means someone who can change the tempo when needed, Wintle doesn't do this.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
I think we can have one midfielder who is the defensively minded one who plays it safe, problem is other than Ramsey right now that is all of them, maybe not Ralls on his day as well. If he doesn't get at least one better option in there we are in big trouble you'd have to say. Decent Championship CB and CM an absolute must or we'll be needing to spend when we can in January just to have a chance.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
City123
No vision either, I think the first pass into Ramsey came from Goutas due to our ponderous and negative midfield duo
There's this idea that Wintle controls games because he makes about 50 sideways passes, I don't think that's controlling the game at all just taking the safe option. For me, controlling the game means someone who can change the tempo when needed, Wintle doesn't do this.
Wintle was poor as bad as ive seen but our whole set up and style was bad.
I have no idea what Bulut is trying to implement. We dont press , we dont counter , we dont move it quick , we dont go direct.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
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bigjoe
He wasn't the worse one out there. Mind, the QPR player probably saved him a red by jumping over his tackle leading up to the second goal.
He was disappointing today but he wasn't the only one. Grant needs a rest.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
City123
No vision either, I think the first pass into Ramsey came from Goutas due to our ponderous and negative midfield duo
There's this idea that Wintle controls games because he makes about 50 sideways passes, I don't think that's controlling the game at all just taking the safe option. For me, controlling the game means someone who can change the tempo when needed, Wintle doesn't do this.
Well said!
All this bollocks of Wintle does a lot of the "unseen work" and is the "workhorse". It's rubbish, just like all our midfield. Ralls, Wintle, Adams, they'll never impose themselves or threaten a goal.
They don't protect and they don't provide.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
Well beaten, as bad as anything last season. Maybe last 20 we showed some urgency but QPR sat off as you do.
Robinson has to play if fit.
Thought Tanner and Colwill also added something, actually showed movement off the ball.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Rock_Flock_of_Five
Well said!
All this bollocks of Wintle does a lot of the "unseen work" and is the "workhorse". It's rubbish, just like all our midfield. Ralls, Wintle, Adams, they'll never impose themselves or threaten a goal.
They don't protect and they don't provide.
Ralls everytime hes missing is a massive loss and if we have any chance of survival needs to play regularly.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
Dreadful performance for the first 75 minutes which was equally as bad as anything we’ve seen over the last 2 seasons. There’s absolutely no killer instinct in the team, and any we do have was sat on the bench (Robinson).
Grant has to be replaced next week, and Ng also deserves to be replaced after his performances so far. Wintle’s decline has continued and if it wasn’t for the fact we are water thin in central midfield I’d happily see him out as well, letting Eli King go doesn’t look like the wisest decision currently.
Robinson has to start, no ifs or buts and this midfielder supposedly coming in needs to be good enough to go straight in.
Disappointment dished up in a manner that only Cardiff City know how to do!
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
LA Bluebird
I think we can have one midfielder who is the defensively minded one who plays it safe, problem is other than Ramsey right now that is all of them, maybe not Ralls on his day as well. If he doesn't get at least one better option in there we are in big trouble you'd have to say. Decent Championship CB and CM an absolute must or we'll be needing to spend when we can in January just to have a chance.
A decent left back would help as well
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
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City123
Proof, if any more were needed, that we need midfielders
Ramsey can't do it all on his own, he needs players around him who can complement his game. It was noticeable when Robinson came on that he finally had someone who could see what he was doing
Grant was embarrassing, Robinson had to tell him where to stand at one point, very disappointing. Ng was also poor I felt, dwells on the ball far too long, there were occasions where an obvious ball was on for Bowler, but he'd wait and wait and by the time he passed it QPR were back in shape
Armstrong for QPR is a player, tore us apart at Loftus Road last season and did the same today
And did bugger all against anyone else if you look at his stats.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
Robinson and Tanner have to start.
These two changed the game when they came on.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
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Doucas
Robinson and Tanner have to start.
These two changed the game when they came on.
Robinson is a quality player at championship level
He can score plenty of goals and his link up play is superb
We should sell etete , he's had plenty of chances
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
Well, that was a right bag of shite. So disappointed. I probably should have, but I really didn't expect that, it was like watching one of the poorer games from last season. Both the team and manager performances were bad enough to cause serious concern for this coming season. No, pace, no direction, no intelligence, no hunger. The only players who came out of that with any credibility were Ramsey and the subs, who should have been introduced far earlier (preferably from minute 1).
Don't know what else to say, gutted.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
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RichardM
A decent left back would help as well
Not ready to write Collins off based on one game in the league cup where he was probably told to focus on his fitness. Played some nice stuff when he came on today I though, was part of the turnaround.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
A least Bulut is not pulling any punches and coming out with theh platitude '''we take positives from that..."
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...rdiff-27510320
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
LA Bluebird
Not ready to write Collins off based on one game in the league cup where he was probably told to focus on his fitness. Played some nice stuff when he came on today I though, was part of the turnaround.
Thought Collins put in a very encouraging showing today. Nicely weighted passes got us moving forward and did the necessary defensive work- let's hope he can get back to his best. O'Dowda had a shocker.
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Re: CARDIFF CITY v Q.P.R. Match thread
Unfortunately Ramsey is two or three moves ahead of the other 21 players on the pitch. He wins a free kick, hands on the ball to steady it, takes it, QPR were still regrouping oblivious to Ramsey’s alertness, unfortunately we were regrouping as well. Ramsey looks a mug for playing a shite ball when, in fact, it’s an excellent ball that shows up the other players standard compared to him. Robinson seems to be the only one who’s maybe on his wavelength but, unfortunately, they weren’t on the pitch together for that long today.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
And did bugger all against anyone else if you look at his stats.
Shades of Dexter Blackstock
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
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Maurice Swan
Nerves?? Id love to know his thinking of playing walking football from the back getting nowhere other than trouble was supposed to achieve. Goutas and Grant had no reason to have nerves from last season and were 2 of our worst players.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
Anyone knocking Ramsey needs to understand that CCFC could have messi and ronaldo and we'd be saying they were crap after two games
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
Watched the game on the box, disappointing after the promising opener last week but it's early doors, so not too disappointed.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
So many poor performances today. Ng took Bowler out of the game by taking 5/6 touches. Wintle had one, too. His passing range is poor. Enough has been said about Grant and Ugbo isn’t a centre forward.
Positives, Tanner, Colwill and Robinson. Alnwick too, probably. I hope the rumours aren’t true about a loan keeper, we need a centre half, midfielder and a striker more than a keeper taking up one of the 2 loan spots.
Writing on the wall for Ojo with that team, too, surely.
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
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splott parker
Unfortunately Ramsey is two or three moves ahead of the other 21 players on the pitch. He wins a free kick, hands on the ball to steady it, takes it, QPR were still regrouping oblivious to Ramsey’s alertness, unfortunately we were regrouping as well. Ramsey looks a mug for playing a shite ball when, in fact, it’s an excellent ball that shows up the other players standard compared to him. Robinson seems to be the only one who’s maybe on his wavelength but, unfortunately, they weren’t on the pitch together for that long today.
Accurate appraisal.
I'd add O'Dowda to that, the rest :facepalm:
A few stealing a living! :angry:
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Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 1 - 2 Q.P.R. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
D. Advocaat
Thought Collins put in a very encouraging showing today. Nicely weighted passes got us moving forward and did the necessary defensive work- let's hope he can get back to his best. O'Dowda had a shocker.
Just have to remember what a superb player Collins was for us before his injury, if he stays fit, he will be a key player for us.
O dowda is better than most in the team but not as good as many make out: a good defender and a good but inconsistent attacking player.