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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
The millennium bug didn’t happen because a lot of work and money was spent making sure it wouldn’t be a problem.
The Government says that it is spending a lot of work and money making sure No Deal won't be a problem
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
Everything I said is a fact. You can look it up. Everything you said is your opinion. And the opinion of an idiot is worthless.
I am commenting on US trade policy as it is happening right now, so I'm not sure where you are getting your ideas from. I listen to what Lighthizer, Ross, Kudlow, Navarro and Mnuchin have to say, and not some clueless prick on a message board :thumbup:
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
What did they say then o wise one??
Given that you haven't bothered to seek their advice on such matters makes me wonder about your loyalties when learning information.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
The Government says that it is spending a lot of work and money making sure No Deal won't be a problem
Wouldn’t it be useful to have put that towards health care and education rather than towards a shit show entirely of our own making?
Tory bootlicker.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
The Government says that it is spending a lot of work and money making sure No Deal won't be a problem
From someone who has slagged off Labour for overspending, do you not think that all the money spent on Brexit is a complete waste, or are you all for spending billions of tax payer money (sorry, hiking up the national debt to record levels and allowing my kids to pay for it while people like you have no obligation to pay for it) on ensuring the elite and establishment can carry on avoiding tax?
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
The true direction of the EU was planned a long time ago. We just get to see the incremental steps, as and when they are revealed.
Why would you rather get into bed with the effing Yanks? I guess it's to sell off the NHS.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Why would you rather get into bed with the effing Yanks? I guess it's to sell off the NHS.
Because globalist conspiracy etc
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Why would you rather get into bed with the effing Yanks? I guess it's to sell off the NHS.
Because they are permanently reshaping the global economy away from globalization, and it is already having a negative effect on countries such as China and Germany. Are you this clueless in real life?
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
City123
Because globalist conspiracy etc
Unbelievable :facepalm: :hehe:
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I agree with your post, but I would suggest one edit ... areas of the UK where once there was thriving industry (all closed and sold in the name of globalization).
And I would add “and neglected by successive governments of both political persuasions, brainwashed by the gingoistic British press who choose to blame the problems in such places on the EU, when in fact they stand to lose the EU money they currently receive and have been promised nothing by the UK Government to replace it!”
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Given that you haven't bothered to seek their advice on such matters makes me wonder about your loyalties when learning information.
For your edification young man
I have looked up what Diabetes UK have to say on the matter but wanted to know where they disagreed with what I said (that insulin can be stored in a fridge for a year and there was no excuse for any shortages. This latter point was actually aimed at the Govt incidentally.).
My wife has been an insulin dependant diabetic for over 20 years now.
I have probably been with her to see the consultant more times than many on here have had hot dinners.
Last year I was twice told (in June and then November) that due to the serious infections she had due on no small part to the problems caused by her diabetes that there was no point in resusitating her if her heart stopped. On the second occasion they did not think she would last the night.
I know where my loyalties lie thanks very much. And I know a fair amount about diabetes
My original post and others on this post were not meant to be political but you and some other posters seem as always to take them as such.
Oh and finally I have just checked my wifes insulin in the fridge and both types are to be used by the end of July 2021.
Or have the manufacturers got it wrong??????
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
Wouldn’t it be useful to have put that towards health care and education rather than towards a shit show entirely of our own making?
Tory bootlicker.
Note that my post was factual not political, so there was no need for your last sentence.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I am commenting on US trade policy as it is happening right now, so I'm not sure where you are getting your ideas from. I listen to what Lighthizer, Ross, Kudlow, Navarro and Mnuchin have to say, and not some clueless prick on a message board :thumbup:
You are not. What you are doing is speculating on the outcome of US policy as you interpret it. US companies are NOT moving back to America and they never will. Companies have a responsibility to their shareholders, and moving jobs from countries that pay $1 an hour to one that pays $40 an hour is not an option. Companies moving out of China will simply stay elsewhere in the far east. You'd be a lot smarter of you did listen to the opinions of people on this messageboard instead of swallowing whole what people in the present administration feed you without even bothering to chew. OF COURSE Mnuchin et al are going to tell you that their policies are working. Do you actually expect them to tell you any different? You might be a bigger idiot than I thought.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Corbyn voted against joining the Common Market back in the 70s. He is not a Remainer, he is just trying to use the current political situation for his own benefit.
So says the self confessed Guardian reader before he had his epiphany - if you are able to change your mind, why can't others?
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Optimistic Nick
I just like the quote.
Although I do actually agree with the point you are making. The UK government has hardly covered itself in glory in its... strategy for Brexit but the zeal with which the EU has attacked the notion of leaving rather highlights one of the reasons people actually wanted out in the first place. If the EU institutions really did consider national governments to be sovereign they have been pretty negligent in constructing the EU as it stands today, where extraction is impossible to navigate and very little assistance given (in fact the opposite).
How have they made it hard to leave?
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
So says the self confessed Guardian reader before he had his epiphany - if you are able to change your mind, why can't others?
You really think Corbyn has changed his mind?
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
The Government says that it is spending a lot of work and money making sure No Deal won't be a problem
No they aren't, they know that is impossible.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
You really think Corbyn has changed his mind?
His voting record suggests he has adjusted his position. What evidence is there to oppose that? Lots of people claiming to know what he is thinking in articles in newspapers that don't like him?
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
How have they made it hard to leave?
I take it you’ve not read the opening post on this thread?
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
You really think Corbyn has changed his mind?
During the Referendum campaign, Corbyn replied seven when asked to grade how much of a remainer he was on a scale of one to ten. If his answer had been one or two lower than that, I think I would have believed him - he's not had a Gluey type road to Damascus conversion, but he's become more pragmatic about things, probably to the detriment of his party at the ballot box.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Optimistic Nick
I just like the quote.
Although I do actually agree with the point you are making. The UK government has hardly covered itself in glory in its... strategy for Brexit but the zeal with which the EU has attacked the notion of leaving rather highlights one of the reasons people actually wanted out in the first place. If the EU institutions really did consider national governments to be sovereign they have been pretty negligent in constructing the EU as it stands today, where extraction is impossible to navigate and very little assistance given (in fact the opposite).
Can you give examples of this zeal? In my view the EU have been very prosaic and consistent in their position
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Because they are permanently reshaping the global economy away from globalization, and it is already having a negative effect on countries such as China and Germany. Are you this clueless in real life?
So I can put you down as someone who believes want Trump says, will happily trade our free health care and wants to turn us into a county like America where those at the bottom are treated like shit and racism is far more rife.
You call me clueless?
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
I take it you’ve not read the opening post on this thread?
It's interesting that the biggest difficulties in reversing out of the EU highlighted in Yellowhammer are around the functioning of a modern economy given the level of integration in the single market. The drive to complete the creation of the single market, which had effectively stalled in the 1980's was very much the brainchild of Margaret Thatcher. This has fused our economy and harmonised our rules and processes in a way that few would have thought possible beforehand.
Extricating ourselves from the single market (not necessary to honour the referendum result to leave the EU but one of our red lines) makes it hard to leave but this is a consequence of our choice not the EU's. Ironic that potentially the UK's greatest contribution to shaping the EU as it looks today is the biggest stumbling block to a painless extraction!
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
His voting record suggests he has adjusted his position. What evidence is there to oppose that? Lots of people claiming to know what he is thinking in articles in newspapers that don't like him?
Put it this way.
I believe Corbyn as much as I do Boris
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
I take it you’ve not read the opening post on this thread?
Why are you blaming the EU for no deal? That's what the document is about (not simply brexit). It's the UK that voted multiple times against a deal (technically against a withdrawal agreement, but that's the first step to a deal).
The EU have always said they wanted a deal. The UK have said "no deal is better than a bad deal". So who's most at fault?
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
Put it this way.
I believe Corbyn as much as I do Boris
:hehe:
Corbyn has stood up for what he believes in. Boris is a charlatan who has got by on bluster, lies, laziness, arrogance while being a racist, homophobic, xenophobe. But yes, they're equally bad. :facepalm:
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Pedro de la Rosa
:hehe:
Corbyn has stood up for what he believes in. Boris is a charlatan who has got by on bluster, lies, laziness, arrogance while being a racist, homophobic, xenophobe. But yes, they're equally bad. :facepalm:
Corbyn knows as much about what he wants regarding brexit as I know what it feels like to have Margot Robbie riding me.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
Note that my post was factual not political, so there was no need for your last sentence.
I'd say his post was factual as well tbh
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
Put it this way.
I believe Corbyn as much as I do Boris
****ing hell :hehe:
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Trigger
Corbyn knows as much about what he wants regarding brexit as I know what it feels like to have Margot Robbie riding me.
Corbyn in an ideal world would want a left leaning Brexit. He can't get it. The original Labour party in 1970 were opposed to joining the common market.
He would then prefer a deal. However, he knows any deal he proposes would be unpopular with the masses, so he'd put it against remain in a referendum.
Corbyn has a plan on Brexit, which is very simple. It's more remain than the Lib Dems, who have proposed a no deal v remain ref. I am not a Corbyn fan but at least he's got a plan, while Boris is hurtling towards no deal while Raab and Co quickly Google how important Dover to Calais is. To equate the two men is laughable.