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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
The country wont fall apart if johnson doesn't recover , its falling apart already to be fair
But the principle stands
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
Yes, particlarly Putin. A leaderless country is like a loose cannon and I think if he dies unexpectedly there would be a bloodbath and its the ordinary people who would suffer, as they usually do.
I had no idea you were so sensitive. I already knew you were daft as brush, though.
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
Out of interest, would those who were apparently outraged by NYCBlue's comment about Johnson have been similarly outraged if someone had made the same comment about Trump or Putin?
Yes.
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
Yes.
It takes all sorts I suppose.
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
Yes.
Trump ?
I would like to see someone take trump out
And I dont mean for a macdonalds
Hes a very dangerous man
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I had no idea you were so sensitive. I already knew you were daft as brush, though.
Trust me, despit the crap on here I'm a long way from daft and rpobably have more experience of life and death than most on here. I just don't discuss it. This is after all only a football chat room not the UN
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
Trust me......
I'll politely decline, but thanks for the offer.
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I'll politely decline, but thanks for the offer.
you're welcome.
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
Trust me, despit the crap on here I'm a long way from daft and rpobably have more experience of life and death than most on here. I just don't discuss it. This is after all only a football chat room not the UN
Have you come back from the dead ?
Kin hell , let's talk !
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Have you come back from the dead ?
Kin hell , let's talk !
Not my own thank feck lol
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
Out of interest, would those who were apparently outraged by NYCBlue's comment about Johnson have been similarly outraged if someone had made the same comment about Trump or Putin?
That’s an interesting question.
One that’s answer would vary depending on an individual’s moral compass.
Me personally, I would find it more expected but still disappointing.
How abhorrent you find a person’s political or cultural influence, obviously will be factored in.
Both leaders, while divisive seem to be popular amongst their citizens.
And one was legitimately voted in democratically.
The question could be extended to Bashar Assad, Sadam Hussein or Kim Jong-un, or roll back to tyrannical leaders of history.
The context here though is a relatively moderate conservative, democratically elected PM being wished dead after he has been taken to hospital....because of political beliefs.
Not only would it be awful for his family as well as his (I’ll) fiancé and unborn child...it would be incredibly damaging to the UK in a situation that is unprecedented in our lifetimes.
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I was born in neath , that's not swansea
I reckon you are a raving tory
And rather odd too , you only post when you want to complain about other posters
That's fecking strange
I have only ever voted Labour.
A lot of the time I prefer to listen than talk. Sometimes though, something boils my piss enough for me to engage.
Everyone has an opinion.
Yours typically seems to be without nuance.
And repetitive.
And authoritarian.
For a Heavy Metal fan...you sure come across as puritanical!
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
The context here though is a relatively moderate conservative, democratically elected PM being wished dead after he has been taken to hospital....because of political beliefs.
Or is it because of his political actions?
Personally, I hope Boris makes a full recovery. While I don't believe he's a good man, I don't believe he deserves to die right now either. Leaving any sentiment aside, I think it will be interesting to see how he approaches politics, his leadership and life in general if and when he does recover.
That said, I could make a list right now of people I believe the world would be a better place without, and Trump and Putin would most definitely be on it. I finished watching a three-part Channel 4 documentary on Putin earlier today. His is an amazing story and it was great television. Seriously evil bastard, though. Death for him tomorrow wouldn't be too soon as far as I'm concerned, but it would be too late for plenty of the political opponents he's had murdered.
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
I have only ever voted Labour.
A lot of the time I prefer to listen than talk. Sometimes though, something boils my piss enough for me to engage.
Everyone has an opinion.
Yours typically seems to be without nuance.
And repetitive.
And authoritarian.
For a Heavy Metal fan...you sure come across as puritanical!
Does that make you better than me , because you prefer to listen , rather than talk ?
Why dont you post more often , then we can get to suss out your opinion ?
It's better than swiping from the sidelines
So , what have I said that has boiled your piss ?
Let's have it
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
That’s an interesting question.
One that’s answer would vary depending on an individual’s moral compass.
Me personally, I would find it more expected but still disappointing.
How abhorrent you find a person’s political or cultural influence, obviously will be factored in.
Both leaders, while divisive seem to be popular amongst their citizens.
And one was legitimately voted in democratically.
The question could be extended to Bashar Assad, Sadam Hussein or Kim Jong-un, or roll back to tyrannical leaders of history.
The context here though is a relatively moderate conservative, democratically elected PM being wished dead after he has been taken to hospital....because of political beliefs.
Not only would it be awful for his family as well as his (I’ll) fiancé and unborn child...it would be incredibly damaging to the UK in a situation that is unprecedented in our lifetimes.
Do you think someone who calls gay men bum boys is moderate ?
Do you think someone who says black people have watermelon smiles ......someone like you should know this is racially very offensive terminology dating back to the slavery days in the deep south ......is moderate ?
I am a bit confused here , help me out
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
Or is it because of his political actions?
Personally, I hope Boris makes a full recovery. While I don't believe he's a good man, I don't believe he deserves to die right now either. Leaving any sentiment aside, I think it will be interesting to see how he approaches politics, his leadership and life in general if and when he does recover.
That said, I could make a list right now of people I believe the world would be a better place without, and Trump and Putin would most definitely be on it. I finished watching a three-part Channel 4 documentary on Putin earlier today. His is an amazing story and it was great television. Seriously evil bastard, though. Death for him tomorrow wouldn't be too soon as far as I'm concerned, but it would be too late for plenty of the political opponents he's had murdered.
The Russian mafia make Al Capone look like a clown with silly shoes
Let's be honest , the Russians are hard bastards
It's in their make up
Read anything about the battle of stalingrad , they just never gave up
Add this generic never say die nature to corruption and lawlessness and you have got a lethal cocktail
Previous Russian leaders and Putin keep a lid on things but putin likes to keep his hand in shall we say
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
The Russian mafia make Al Capone look like a clown with silly shoes
Let's be honest , the Russians are hard bastards
It's in their make up
Read anything about the battle of stalingrad , they just never gave up
Add this generic never say die nature to corruption and lawlessness and you have got a lethal cocktail
Previous Russian leaders and Putin keep a lid on things but putin likes to keep his hand in shall we say
Thats what I meant about him popping off, (or being popped off) unexpectedly. There would be a turf war that would make anything else look like childrens hour and it could destabalise the country and the region if the wrong side won. (and the nasty one normally do)
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
Thats what I meant about him popping off, (or being popped off) unexpectedly. There would be a turf war that would make anything else look like childrens hour and it could destabalise the country and the region if the wrong side won. (and the nasty one normally do)
Russias history is of instability , it's just the way it is
It was even worse until the smaller states split off
The Ukraine is a tough place
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Russias history is of instability , it's just the way it is
It was even worse until the smaller states split off
The Ukraine is a tough place
Aand chetchna apparently lol
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
Or is it because of his political actions?
Personally, I hope Boris makes a full recovery. While I don't believe he's a good man, I don't believe he deserves to die right now either. Leaving any sentiment aside, I think it will be interesting to see how he approaches politics, his leadership and life in general if and when he does recover.
That said, I could make a list right now of people I believe the world would be a better place without, and Trump and Putin would most definitely be on it. I finished watching a three-part Channel 4 documentary on Putin earlier today. His is an amazing story and it was great television. Seriously evil bastard, though. Death for him tomorrow wouldn't be too soon as far as I'm concerned, but it would be too late for plenty of the political opponents he's had murdered.
I don’t think Boris has been involved long enough or deeply enough to warrant the same rancor as the two mentioned above.
Maybe his position on Brexit....but again the nation voted democratically.
Putin is as frightening as they come to me.
That being said, some countries can be better off under such regimes like and fragment into worse situations without them (Years after Tito and Hussein spring to mind).
I’m a sympathetic isolationist nowadays as far as policing the world goes.
I’m not sure what to say about Trump.
I campaigned for Obama, had lunch in the West Wing and admire him still.
I do know that I trusted Hillary less than Trump.
I think that Trump genuinely cares about the US is trying to bring manufacturing back and wants to interfere less as a “Global Policeman”.
He’s most certainly unstatesmanlike and quite worrying with his Twitter rhetoric.
I get to vote in this years Presidential election For the first time and I probably won’t.
General politics have become way too intersectional and that’s why popularism is winning.
In my opinion anyway.
BTW...Thank you for sending me the Joe Dwyer book a good few years ago!
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
Aand chetchna apparently lol
Barking mad
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Does that make you better than me , because you prefer to listen , rather than talk ?
Why dont you post more often , then we can get to suss out your opinion ?
It's better than swiping from the sidelines
So , what have I said that has boiled your piss ?
Let's have it
I would never nor could never look at myself as better than anyone.
I was brought up as standard C2DE with hardworking parents that tried their best to install some kind of decency in me.
If they managed to or not is another matter.
Me being from Newport could well make you think that’s an impossible task looking at your derision of the place in your post history.
In fact, I distinctly remember you well saying I had no business supporting City because I’m from Newport.
Your digs at me and my hometown however pale into significance compared to the blanket whitewashing of society In general without a second thought to nuance.
I called you a wrong’un last night and I regret that because I think that your heart is in the right place. You just piss me off and my mercury was already rising.
I’d like to apologize for calling you a wrong’un but a rotter is a badge of honor to you ;)
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
I would never nor could never look at myself as better than anyone.
I was brought up as standard C2DE with hardworking parents that tried their best to install some kind of decency in me.
If they managed to or not is another matter.
Me being from Newport could well make you think that’s an impossible task looking at your derision of the place in your post history.
In fact, I distinctly remember you well saying I had no business supporting City because I’m from Newport.
Your digs at me and my hometown however pale into significance compared to the blanket whitewashing of society In general without a second thought to nuance.
I called you a wrong’un last night and I regret that because I think that your heart is in the right place. You just piss me off and my mercury was already rising.
I’d like to apologize for calling you a wrong’un but a rotter is a badge of honor to you ;)
That's very kind of you, I am afraid I am non plussed by your veer towards the blanket whitewashing of society in general without a second thought to nuance ?
You will have to explain that one to me
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
That's very kind of you, I am afraid I am non plussed by your veer towards the blanket whitewashing of society in general without a second thought to nuance ?
You will have to explain that one to me
I think that reading through a cross section of your post history could give you introspection and probably more value than me simply pointing out the “black and white” nature of your posts.
This lockdown may just afford you the time to do so.
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
I'll ask again: how many people did Boris Johnson infect?
I wonder how many of them died?
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
I'll ask again: how many people did Boris Johnson infect?
I wonder how many of them died?
Glad that I hadn’t got around to blocking you yet due to gems like this.
Do you think that his R0 Is stronger than average or do you think that he went about Infecting as many people as he could on purpose?
No let me guess, probably his handshaking a month or so ago?
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
I'll ask again: how many people did Boris Johnson infect?
I wonder how many of them died?
Two of the stupidest questions anyone is ever likely to see on this board. You have no idea what you are talking about and obviously no compassion for mankind.
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
I’m not sure what to say about Trump.
I can think of a few things.....
On February 28th he was proudly telling his supporters at a rally that the Coronavirus was a hoax.
Personally, I think it's a shame that a massive Monty Python-style foot can't simply descend from the heavens and smash him to smithereens during his next press conference. He's a disgraceful and very dangerous human being. The world would very definitely be a better place if he no longer existed.
Sorting out the book was a pleasure. As it happens, I had a brief chat with Phil at the Reading game at the end of January. That was the first time I'd seen him for a couple of years.
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I can think of a few things.....
On February 28th he was proudly telling his supporters at a rally that the Coronavirus was a hoax.
Personally, I think it's a shame that a massive Monty Python-style foot can't simply descend from the heavens and smash him to smithereens during his next press conference. He's a disgraceful and very dangerous human being. The world would very definitely be a better place if he no longer existed.
Couldn't agree more. I like to think I'm a pretty compassionate person but Trump dying would rid the world of a very dangerous man, same for Putin.
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Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I can think of a few things.....
On February 28th he was proudly telling his supporters at a rally that the Coronavirus was a hoax.
Personally, I think it's a shame that a massive Monty Python-style foot can't simply descend from the heavens and smash him to smithereens during his next press conference. He's a disgraceful and very dangerous human being. The world would very definitely be a better place if he no longer existed.
Sorting out the book was a pleasure. As it happens, I had a brief chat with Phil at the Reading game at the end of January. That was the first time I'd seen him for a couple of years.
If Trump dies we get Pence. Pence is Trump, but with a bit more intelligence.
Trump is dangerous, not because of what he will do, but because of the chain of events his leadership has started.