Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 16:35

In the meantime the proles will be drip fed the media interpretation of the man. That's a risky strategy

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Best to wait until they've calmed themselves down a bit first

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 16:35

In the meantime the proles will be drip fed the media interpretation of the man. That's a risky strategy

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"The proles" survived in the days before Twitter, they'll be just fine now.

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 16:41

Elwood has had a right mare on this.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 16:27

I do notice the righties seem a little preoccupied with Corbyn. Thought they were celebrating or are they a tad worried ?

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 16:23

Aren't they just - I thought this new Labour leader was supposed to be a laughing stock?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:04

If Jeremy Corbyn has decided to have nothing to do with a news channel which barely bothers to hide it's political bias (and I mean proper bias, not the sort the BBC is always accused of by both right and left wingers), then he goes up in my estimation.

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:01

Elwood, you claim to know the difference between voluntarily turning up in a studio to be asked questions by a journalist and being pursued by one who I presume had been given no permission to do so (I see the words "stalking" and "harassment" being used in the comments section of that video) and yet you still choose to make a comparison between the two - why?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 03:41

why is Corbyn afraid to answer questions posed to him?

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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 02:06

Don't know, but then I don't know for sure that he is afraid of answering them - I don't see how anyone but him can say he is

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Bob said he didn't see how anyone could claim Corbyn was afraid to answer questions, you responded with "In answer to your question Bob..."

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 16:43

In the meantime the proles will be drip fed the media interpretation of the man. That's a risky strategy

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 16:35

If Corbyn appeared on every show and gave interviews to every paper he would still get pilloried anyway.

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I'd say appearing on R4 or newsnight would have been a good start and not one to be avoided.

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 17:00

In the meantime the proles will be drip fed the media interpretation of the man. That's a risky strategy

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 16:43

If Corbyn appeared on every show and gave interviews to every paper he would still get pilloried anyway.

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 16:35

He'll pick and choose his own moments and hopefully he won't end up looking like the dozens of factory-made "soundbite in a suit" politicians that have gone before him and made the general public so wary and weary of these robotic mouthpieces.

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Don't you worry, he'll get around to it.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 17:02

In the meantime the proles will be drip fed the media interpretation of the man. That's a risky strategy

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 17:00

If Corbyn appeared on every show and gave interviews to every paper he would still get pilloried anyway.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 16:43

He'll pick and choose his own moments and hopefully he won't end up looking like the dozens of factory-made "soundbite in a suit" politicians that have gone before him and made the general public so wary and weary of these robotic mouthpieces.

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 16:35

"The proles" survived in the days before Twitter, they'll be just fine now.

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I'd say it was more to do with them being serious platforms for discussing contemporary politics that reaches a wide audience rather than it being what we are used to

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:30

Only yesterday feedy was saying:

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:22

it is strange that you seem to think the press won't attack him at some point in the future. I'd have thought you would appreciate that now he is leader they will do whatever they can to discredit him.

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Mon, 14 September 2015 21:26

Corbyn knows this as well as anyone and yet here's feedy today, accusing Corbyn of "disagreeing with a free press" for ignoring one idiotic Murdoch street presser.

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have you thought of seeking help?

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Jimmy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 12:42

Archie - Good on him - but he does need a way (if he wants to win people over) to communicate to people who are not hard left card carrying brothers and sisters of the union.

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I can honestly say, hand on heart i never watch sky news. And there are millions out there like me.

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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 17:12

Only yesterday feedy was saying:

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:30

it is strange that you seem to think the press won't attack him at some point in the future. I'd have thought you would appreciate that now he is leader they will do whatever they can to discredit him.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:22

Corbyn knows this as well as anyone and yet here's feedy today, accusing Corbyn of "disagreeing with a free press" for ignoring one idiotic Murdoch street presser.

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Mon, 14 September 2015 21:26

Corbyn is a socialist. pretty much all socialists disagree with freedom of the press, freedom of thought and freedom of expression.

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lets start with East Germany....

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:03

No problem whatsoever with Corbyn refusing to speak with the Murdoch owned media. He should though get himself a decent press officer with a human face like Owen Jones and do it sooner rather than later.

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Originally Posted by alfie sherwood wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 12:57

I've tried explaining this elsewhere but people like Archie think that PR is for others and Corbyn doesn't need it.

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No, what i said was, your suggestion that Corbyn's PR team should go out of their way to dig up dirt on Corbyn was more than a little bonkers.

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:13

Quite a few mares happening here:

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:11

Elwood

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:07

Feedy

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:06

Jimmy

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Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:05

if you think I've had a mare then you've certainly had a whoosh

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:03

http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

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Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 12:59

Go on then Feeds, i'll play along - lay it down for me

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so it is ok for you to do it, but not others. I see.

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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 17:16

No problem whatsoever with Corbyn refusing to speak with the Murdoch owned media. He should though get himself a decent press officer with a human face like Owen Jones and do it sooner rather than later.

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:03

I've tried explaining this elsewhere but people like Archie think that PR is for others and Corbyn doesn't need it.

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Originally Posted by alfie sherwood wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 12:57

No, what i said was, your suggestion that Corbyn's PR team should go out of their way to dig up dirt on Corbyn was more than a little bonkers.

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I never said dig up dirt, I said manage the flow of information and put their side of the story out first

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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 17:18

Quite a few mares happening here:

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:13

Elwood

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:11

Feedy

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:07

Jimmy

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:06

if you think I've had a mare then you've certainly had a whoosh

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Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:05

http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:03

Go on then Feeds, i'll play along - lay it down for me

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Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 12:59

Well, everything feedy said in this thread was just a huge joke, and by responding you have fallen right into his intricate trap!

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I am not a politician whom people want answers.

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:20

Quite a few mares happening here:

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:16

Elwood

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:13

Feedy

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:11

Jimmy

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:07

if you think I've had a mare then you've certainly had a whoosh

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:06

http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

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Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:05

Go on then Feeds, i'll play along - lay it down for me

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:03

Well, everything feedy said in this thread was just a huge joke, and by responding you have fallen right into his intricate trap!

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Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 12:59

you think I was serious?

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Sorry to correct you though, but only a hand full of unions came out in support of Corbyn.

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:34

Quite a few mares happening here:

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:24

Elwood

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:20

Feedy

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:16

Jimmy

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:13

if you think I've had a mare then you've certainly had a whoosh

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:11

http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:07

Go on then Feeds, i'll play along - lay it down for me

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:06

Well, everything feedy said in this thread was just a huge joke, and by responding you have fallen right into his intricate trap!

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Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:05

you think I was serious?

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:03

Even in the unlikely event you were joking all along, you can hardly claim a whoosh on anyone that engaged with you considering your views in this thread pretty much match up with your general political stance (although of course, you'll now claim it isn't)

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Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 12:59

If that's the rules of "whoosh" then WHOOSH on you for responding to me, I was joking all along as well.

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Which unions set up call centres? this is the first i have heard of it.

What the **** is this? Tag team arguing?

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:05

colonel

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to say the 'unions got thier man' implies that all unions wanted the same thing. but the fact is each union does its own thing, and not always the same thing, and in tbhis case, they did not all want Corbyn.

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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 17:27

colonel

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:05

one one hand you suggest I'm wrong when I say the unions 'got their man', but then agree with jon1959 who makes it very clear statement that

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I'm in a Union and voted for Burnham. Not sure what this proves but they there we are http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/Dsmile.gif

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:14

colonel

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:37

one one hand you suggest I'm wrong when I say the unions 'got their man', but then agree with jon1959 who makes it very clear statement that

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:32

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:20

I think most active union members would know that the majority of trade unions (through special conferences or executive decisions) supported Corbyn in the leadership election

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:17

so which is it:

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:14

1. the unions did endorse Corbyn and I was right when I said they got their man; or

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:05

2. jon1959 is wronbg, the unions didn't want Corbyn to win and I was mistaken when I said the unions 'got their man'

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far be it for me to dispute your indisputable facts, but not all unions encouraged their members to join thre labour party and not all of those that did encourage it supported corbyn.

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Originally Posted by Alex DeLarge wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 17:23

What the **** is this? Tag team arguing?

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old skool feedy/archie politics thread, wrong place

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 17:18

No problem whatsoever with Corbyn refusing to speak with the Murdoch owned media. He should though get himself a decent press officer with a human face like Owen Jones and do it sooner rather than later.

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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 17:16

I've tried explaining this elsewhere but people like Archie think that PR is for others and Corbyn doesn't need it.

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:03

No, what i said was, your suggestion that Corbyn's PR team should go out of their way to dig up dirt on Corbyn was more than a little bonkers.

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Originally Posted by alfie sherwood wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 12:57

I never said dig up dirt, I said manage the flow of information and put their side of the story out first

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Put their side of the story of what though?

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 17:15

Only yesterday feedy was saying:

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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 17:12

it is strange that you seem to think the press won't attack him at some point in the future. I'd have thought you would appreciate that now he is leader they will do whatever they can to discredit him.

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:30

Corbyn knows this as well as anyone and yet here's feedy today, accusing Corbyn of "disagreeing with a free press" for ignoring one idiotic Murdoch street presser.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:22

Corbyn is a socialist. pretty much all socialists disagree with freedom of the press, freedom of thought and freedom of expression.

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Mon, 14 September 2015 21:26

You really do have a problem with reality dont you.

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Thankfully, reality does not conform with your bizare logic

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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 17:20

Quite a few mares happening here:

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:20

Elwood

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:16

Feedy

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:13

Jimmy

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:11

if you think I've had a mare then you've certainly had a whoosh

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:07

http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:06

Go on then Feeds, i'll play along - lay it down for me

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Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:05

Well, everything feedy said in this thread was just a huge joke, and by responding you have fallen right into his intricate trap!

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:03

you think I was serious?

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Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 12:59

Even in the unlikely event you were joking all along, you can hardly claim a whoosh on anyone that engaged with you considering your views in this thread pretty much match up with your general political stance (although of course, you'll now claim it isn't)

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you really need to make your mind up whether you want the unions and labour as one because your arguing against me here suggests you don't.

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:14

the facts are these

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 10:39

the unions encouraged their members to join the labour party so they could vote; and

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Suppose it's too much to ask for you to admit you were wrong.

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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 17:22

Quite a few mares happening here:

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:34

Elwood

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:24

Feedy

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:20

Jimmy

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:16

if you think I've had a mare then you've certainly had a whoosh

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:13

http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:11

Go on then Feeds, i'll play along - lay it down for me

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:07

Well, everything feedy said in this thread was just a huge joke, and by responding you have fallen right into his intricate trap!

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:06

you think I was serious?

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Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:05

Even in the unlikely event you were joking all along, you can hardly claim a whoosh on anyone that engaged with you considering your views in this thread pretty much match up with your general political stance (although of course, you'll now claim it isn't)

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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:03

If that's the rules of "whoosh" then WHOOSH on you for responding to me, I was joking all along as well.

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Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 12:59

what do you think I have said in this thread that agrees with my political opinion? do you think I really believe Jeremy Corbyn is the messiah, is the anointed one and walks on water? the fact I wasn't serious may have been given away from my use of hyperbole.

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it was in the BBC article, can't be bothered to read it but it was someone like unite.