No surprise who thinks complaining about anti semitism and racism is "poisonous". Pity they don't apply that description to anti semitism itself.
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No surprise who thinks complaining about anti semitism and racism is "poisonous". Pity they don't apply that description to anti semitism itself.
'Farage under fire for conspiracy claims linked to antisemitism'
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...o-antisemitism
I'll just leave this riiiiight here.
Jews after the war were traditionally looking for a safe place and a home as the right wing pursued them .
Before that Mosley in the guise as a neo socialist also pursued them .
Extreme Islam, far right and far left, all pursue the hatred towards them its all very sad .
Its supports my understand far left and right hatred can merge, layered with extreme islam what a wonderful life they have .
"""Thousands back call for armed security outside Jewish schools and synagogues
Golders Green resident Moses Hoffman said the UK should follow other European countries by providing armed security outside schools and synagogues""
""Holocaust a normal event "" ,not sure of his politics i'm guessing he is not right wing though
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9211781.html
Extinction Rebellion founder told he is ‘not welcome’ in movement after Holocaust comments
Roger Hallam could face expulsion after claiming Nazi genocide of six million Jews was ‘almost a normal
I'm honestly surprised to see that there's so much anti semitism on this board , but more so that the extreme factions of labour , ( not many of them) , are happy to voice it pretty openly. There's a couple on the edge who've got more sense than to admit it openly, but they're not going to condemn it either.
I don't think there are all that many Jews in South Wales are there ? Therefore it's probably an ideological thing with them.
In any case, is there a case now for something like this in Cardiff to help combat it ?
https://youtu.be/MFCM0x0pZmE
Yeah the truth of the matter is that the Shomrim are primarily concerned with anti Semites attacking Jewish people, but they're very popular with the community at large because they'll help anyone and deal with all crimes.
" for the many, not just the Jew !"
Corbyn's rally was somewhat ruined when Jewish and anti racist protestors picketed the entrance and he was shamed by a question from the audience.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12...today-policies
No, that video is from 2010 actually. That's years before Jeremy Corbyn was the Labour leader and the party handled the antisemitism issue so badly that it has helped lead to the sort of lunatic theorising seen further up this page by Ronnie Bird - the real Ronnie Bird was a decent, likeable man and it's a disgrace that his name is being used to peddle such offensive drivel.
Well the fact that the Shomrim are still there and still necessary after 8 or 9 years of Corbyn hardly vindicates him. In fact they're much bigger and busier now and many think that's because the views of violent anti Semites have been encouraged by Corbyn.
I remember that the real Bob Wilson was, ( unusually then), a graduate and quite an intelligent and successfull man, so it's fortunate for you that similarity to the person you use as a screen name isn't required . It's not reasonable or intelligent ,incidentally , to personally insult people who take a different view to you.
I hope and believe that people who know me consider me a decent man by the way, but I don't have to defend myself and I think we know what motivates such strong language and allegations against someone we don't even know.
It seems to me that I've disturbed a little hornets nest of like minded extremists here, but I'm hardly the only one who thinks labour and Corbyn are dangerously anti Semitic. Are they all bad and offensive ?
To me it's unbelievable that anyone could make light of anti semitism or the idea that it can become serious so soon after what happened in Germany and the occupied countries. Be aware, however , that there'd be a strong and decisive reaction long before it reached that point again.
I honestly don't know how many Jewish people there are in Cardiff. I'm thinking that it's not many, but I may be wrong. If I'm right though, then there's probably not a danger to them at the moment.
I posted the clip as a warning of the direction things can take rather than a suggestion.
What I do know is that I've been genuinely shocked and dismayed by some of the comments here and very very surprised that so many will defend ,dismiss or deny anti semitism.
If we'd not witnessed such vilification of a minority ending in extreme violence and cruelty then perhaps we wouldn't have to be vigilant, but when such talk goes unchallenged it really can get out of hand very quickly. You may well be familiar with the way the catholic minority were gradually marginalised in N.I and how that went from the level of denial and dismissal we witness here to a war.
In Germany and elsewhere it's gone even further against Jews when scapegoating and low level targeting hasn't been rejected whilst it's still controllable.
All I'm asking - all many many people are asking is that the problem is recognised and sincerely addressed, but I get told that I'm not a decent man and that my protests are "poisonous " or "utter nonsense".
I'm not a conservative , but I note that their candidate for Leeds North East has been immediately suspended for anti semitism.
That's the way to deal with it, not hedging your bets.
No you haven't . Nor have your other identities
What a coincidence , because I've never read Bob's crappy blog except when it's quoted here.
Funny thing is that I've never thought about mentioning stuff I haven't read though.
It's almost as if it's a tactic to divert attention away from closet anti semitism, isn't it ?
Something from The Sun!!!!!
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/stat...40432261509122
So Maureen Lipman is a poisonous person now !
It seems I'm not the only troublemaker questioning the comfortable little Corbyn Füererprinzip then !
Far from it in fact, but I'd never have guessed that we were harbouring so many fanatics right here. It'd be very very upsetting, except that the same bunch of bullies have already driven a lot of people out of here by ganging up on them when they express unauthorised opinions. I'm sure these people are not representative of most Cardiff City fans and they must not be allowed to give our club a name for racism.
https://twitter.com/TomLondon6/statu...69933649842177
Lipman is another one of these British Jews that is very concerned about Israel.
How dare she !
Rule Britannia
Is this meant to prove something?
Yuk! I'm sure doing adverts for shite like the Sun will go down well in places like Liverpool.
She's showing her true colours now but I suppose Murdoch's filthy lucre will have been a persuasive consideration for her.
I remember those BT adverts of hers and they were revolting. A smug, conceited type banging on about "ologies"! The pity is there will be some poor unsuspecting folk around who will be brainwashed by this sort of slick nonsense.
British Steel, British Telecom, British Gas, British Airways, British Rail, British Coal, British Aerospace, British Petroleum, British Leyland etc etc all privatised the list go's on and on.
What ? The Maureen Lipman Clip Eric ?
Yeah, the hard line anti Semites here have been calling me all sorts of names ,trying to say I made it all up and trying to tell me I'm the only one who objects or sees a problem. I didn't post it myself, but it's a reality check for the deniers that I'm not the only person in the world who's concerned about it.
Here's another onehttps://youtu.be/S2GS_CvTHnc
https://twitter.com/jonnyhusband1/st...99460081950722
Is Jeremy Corbyn been bullied ?
I've just read that Twitter thread and came upon that clip of the wonderful Miriam Margolyes. What did she say?..."I'm Jewish and I'll be supporting the Labour party and Jeremy Corbyn who has been a lifelong anti racist'!!!
I dare say the wicked people trying to subvert the Labour party will say she's the wrong kind of Jew.
I suppose slagging folk off detrects from the real issue of anti semitsim existing in the Labour party, it probaly does upset them privately as its a weakness and damaging to what was once a good party .
Good luck with candidates like Zarah Sultana of Coventy North , she sums up the reason why I struggle with Labour .
An old trick- do a deliberate typo and see if anyone is small minded enough to mention it.
No, Eric, definitely not. I don't think there are many places in this day and age where you'd get a little clique of anti Semites patting each other on the back and abusing dissenters like this. I've been truly shocked to find it here of all places, and although I do find it tiresome it would be cowardly and immoral to give in to them.