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Originally Posted by
Packerman
30 years in the met, never heard the term antifa, most demos the trouble makers were just labelled rent a mob, turn out for a ruck to most peaceful protests left or right
I've experienced rent-a-mob and what you say is broadly correct.
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Originally Posted by
lardy
People who criticise lineker for having an opinion never seem to criticise shilton for having one.
Shilton is a ****ing idiot and a dinosaur whos views are not dissimilar to a lot of people of his age, but he has 50k followers compared to Gary Linekers 7.5m and Lineker posts almost 10 times as much as Shilton, so naturally more people are likely to have a view on Gary Lineker compared to Peter Shilton as they are more likely to see and respond to a Gary Lineker tweet.
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
I actually disagree with this, I think he believes in what he says. One thing I've never understood about social media is if a sports star gives their opinion on politics they're flooded with loads of people who do a variety of different jobs that have nothing to do with politics going "sTIcK 2 FoOtboLL/DrIVinG" and then giving their opinion on the issue.
Like, Dave the plumber is allowed to rant about whatever but if he catches a footballer doing it they're not allowed to :shrug:
Had this same conversation with my old dear. Baffles me.
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
So many people these days are so quick to see faults in others that they cannot see in themselves.
I agree.
On all sides of the arguments.
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Originally Posted by
Baloo
Fair enough Matt.
My only observation is that I too have family on my wife’s side (recently retired) from Special Operations in the Met and your contacts always seem a lot more chatty about their (ex) day-job than ours.
fair enough
When i was first invited out by my neighbour ( and best mate ) as we sat down in the indian, it was said that anything i hear about op's shouldnt be repeated, which was fair enough, as other people joined the nights out ( or bike rides ) it was said that they can treat me as one of them, too be honest they did, i often couldnt understand what they were talking about as they love to use abbreviations, i would occasionally get annoyed with it, psu was one incident, i knew psu as a PC's power supply :hehe: after about the 5th time of hearing psu i snapped and said " wtf is psu " , it was a joke at my expense for a while, they would add letters to a chat to wind me up
only once was i put in a strange position, a big time coke dealer was also the boyfriend of someone who worked with my wife, ikept my word and didnt mention it to my wife
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Re: London Demonstrations....
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
So many people these days are so quick to see faults in others that they cannot see in themselves.
Indeed, a fine statement especially if everyone sees their faults , and it's acceptable to see the good in everyone no matter their view in life, especially in these times where people are protesting about dreadful injustices and views. It strikes me in these days of racism, antisemitism, homophobia, everyone could take a step back and reflect on what they say and do.
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Originally Posted by
Packerman
30 years in the met, never heard the term antifa, most demos the trouble makers were just labelled rent a mob, turn out for a ruck to most peaceful protests left or right
i was trying to think of your name last night, as i know we disagreed once before, as most of the guys i knew ( and drank with ) were very pro arming officers, your opinion was the opposite i think and it was fairly low, we had a discussion on here shortly after i was involved in a discussion with them
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Re: London Demonstrations....
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
i was trying to think of your name last night, as i know we disagreed once before, as most of the guys i knew ( and drank with ) were very pro arming officers, your opinion was the opposite i think and it was fairly low, we had a discussion on here shortly after i was involved in a discussion with them
We have to accept there are some vile folk about , even in this country where its recognised as a very tolerant society ( not perfect ) better than most though .
I do feel for the police though they have so much to put up with from the right and left and the middle , I guess like statues thet are an easy handy target .
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Re: London Demonstrations....
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
fair enough
When i was first invited out by my neighbour ( and best mate ) as we sat down in the indian, it was said that anything i hear about op's shouldnt be repeated, which was fair enough, as other people joined the nights out ( or bike rides ) it was said that they can treat me as one of them, too be honest they did, i often couldnt understand what they were talking about as they love to use abbreviations, i would occasionally get annoyed with it, psu was one incident, i knew psu as a PC's power supply :hehe: after about the 5th time of hearing psu i snapped and said " wtf is psu " , it was a joke at my expense for a while, they would add letters to a chat to wind me up
only once was i put in a strange position, a big time coke dealer was also the boyfriend of someone who worked with my wife, ikept my word and didnt mention it to my wife
Can imagine you in an interrogation room, you'd paint the picture perfectly for them right down to the very smallest detail :hehe:
"It was a green car, I remember that because my wife isn't a fan of apple pies (it comes from her childhood fjejfnfjsksnfjdksjdndjdjdjdjdjsjdjdjdndndjskskdjdn sjsjsjdndn blah) and the green reminded me of that fjfjdjrjfigjgjfjdjeidjfjfkdkskdnfjdkeidjfnfjfndnsk djfjfndndje :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
Can imagine you in an interrogation room, you'd paint the picture perfectly for them right down to the very smallest detail :hehe:
"It was a green car, I remember that because my wife isn't a fan of apple pies (it comes from her childhood fjejfnfjsksnfjdksjdndjdjdjdjdjsjdjdjdndndjskskdjdn sjsjsjdndn blah) and the green reminded me of that fjfjdjrjfigjgjfjdjeidjfjfkdkskdnfjdkeidjfnfjfndnsk djfjfndndje :hehe:
just dont ask me what i had for tea on sunday
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Re: London Demonstrations....
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
fair enough
When i was first invited out by my neighbour ( and best mate ) as we sat down in the indian, it was said that anything i hear about op's shouldnt be repeated, which was fair enough, as other people joined the nights out ( or bike rides ) it was said that they can treat me as one of them, too be honest they did, i often couldnt understand what they were talking about as they love to use abbreviations, i would occasionally get annoyed with it, psu was one incident, i knew psu as a PC's power supply :hehe: after about the 5th time of hearing psu i snapped and said " wtf is psu " , it was a joke at my expense for a while, they would add letters to a chat to wind me up
only once was i put in a strange position, a big time coke dealer was also the boyfriend of someone who worked with my wife, ikept my word and didnt mention it to my wife
You should be on Sky Atlantic mate.
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Re: London Demonstrations....
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
just dont ask me what i had for tea on sunday
:hehe: *thumbupsmileyicantdo
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Indeed, a fine statement especially if everyone sees their faults , and it's acceptable to see the good in everyone no matter their view in life, especially in these times where people are protesting about dreadful injustices and views. It strikes me in these days of racism, antisemitism, homophobia, everyone could take a step back and reflect on what they say and do.
Accepting there's good in everyone no matter their view on life?
On this board?
You are being very optimistic LOM.
This board has become far more intolerant over the years in my view.
You may remember Alfie Sherwood who posted fairly regularly until a few years ago.
He and I had different views on many things and crossed swords several times but it was always very civilised even so.
These days people just seem to want to belittle others or hurl insult.
Not saying that there aren't decent posters on both side of the political spectrum ( and in the middle) but there seem to be less of them these days.
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Indeed, a fine statement especially if everyone sees their faults , and it's acceptable to see the good in everyone no matter their view in life, especially in these times where people are protesting about dreadful injustices and views. It strikes me in these days of racism, antisemitism, homophobia, everyone could take a step back and reflect on what they say and do.
I might reflect on some of the things you have said.
Natural born UK citizens are white.
Under 18 year olds who are trafficked into being sex workers are old enough to make their own decisions.
Anything else?
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Originally Posted by
lardy
I might reflect on some of the things you have said.
Natural born UK citizens are white.
Under 18 year olds who are trafficked into being sex workers are old enough to make their own decisions.
Anything else?
*whips out my British passport*
or maybe I'm gonna have to use skin whitening cream to pass for 'British' in his eyes :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Baloo
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Treacherous scum” 🤷*♂️ <a href="https://t.co/kQfBCEA4TF">pic.twitter.com/kQfBCEA4TF</a></p>— Spirit of ‘78 (@78Spirit) <a href="https://twitter.com/78Spirit/status/1271836042505654272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Did he say "Wrexham"?
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Originally Posted by
adz-a32
*whips out my British passport*
or maybe I'm gonna have to use skin whitening cream to pass for 'British' in his eyes :hehe:
Maybe British but not natural? Wouldn't want to put words in his mouth though.
Lifeonmars, how would you categorise adz?
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Re: London Demonstrations....
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Indeed, a fine statement especially if everyone sees their faults , and it's acceptable to see the good in everyone no matter their view in life, especially in these times where people are protesting about dreadful injustices and views. It strikes me in these days of racism, antisemitism, homophobia, everyone could take a step back and reflect on what they say and do.
People may acknowledge their faults to themselves and admit to making errors to themselves, but, if this board is any criterion, there aren't too many around who are prepared to put such feelings into the public domain.
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
People may acknowledge their faults to themselves and admit to making errors to themselves, but, if this board is any criterion, there aren't too many around who are prepared to put such feelings into the public domain.
Happens all over the internet to be fair, people seem to double down rather than admit fault. I've definitely done it
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
People may acknowledge their faults to themselves and admit to making errors to themselves, but, if this board is any criterion, there aren't too many around who are prepared to put such feelings into the public domain.
I'd gladly admit itif i was at fault but happily I'm never wrong!!!!! :hide:
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
I'd gladly admit itif i was at fault but happily I'm never wrong!!!!! :hide:
As it turns out, I'd say you're one of the ones who has admitted it when they have been wrong.
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Re: London Demonstrations....
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
As it turns out, I'd say you're one of the ones who has admitted it when they have been wrong.
When was this?! :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
When was this?! :hehe:
Oi! Oi! Calm down, calm down!!!
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">had to listen back a few times to check Dominic Raab really said this<br><br>"On this taking the knee thing, I don't know maybe it's got a broader history, it seems to be taken from the Game of Thrones, feels to me like a symbol of subjugation and subordination"<a href="https://t.co/xNMkWwpxfX">pic.twitter.com/xNMkWwpxfX</a></p>— Matthew Champion (@matthewchampion) <a href="https://twitter.com/matthewchampion/status/1273534016570957824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Originally Posted by
Baloo
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">had to listen back a few times to check Dominic Raab really said this<br><br>"On this taking the knee thing, I don't know maybe it's got a broader history, it seems to be taken from the Game of Thrones, feels to me like a symbol of subjugation and subordination"<a href="https://t.co/xNMkWwpxfX">pic.twitter.com/xNMkWwpxfX</a></p>— Matthew Champion (@matthewchampion) <a href="https://twitter.com/matthewchampion/status/1273534016570957824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
It's absolutely unreal isn't it, the f**king foreign secretary! The arrogance and incompetence is relentlessly staggering
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
It's absolutely unreal isn't it, the f**king foreign secretary! The arrogance and incompetence is relentlessly staggering
I know, right? It's just 'Game of Thrones' not 'The Game of Thrones', the bloody idiot!
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I see also that Matt Hancock, of Daniel Rashford fame, was filmed totally ignoring social distancing advice in the Commons yesterday;-
https://twitter.com/i/status/1273223797815103488
It's got to the stage where these sort of cock ups by Cabinet ministers are so common place you almost ignore them.
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Re: London Demonstrations....
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
I see also that Matt Hancock, of Daniel Rashford fame, was filmed totally ignoring social distancing advice in the Commons yesterday;-
https://twitter.com/i/status/1273223797815103488
It's got to the stage where these sort of cock ups by Cabinet ministers are so common place you almost ignore them.
almost..
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
almost..
Do you think they should be ignored?
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
almost..
Based on the principle that he has had it so he (fingers crossed) can't catch it again and can't pass it on perhaps? :shrug:
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Do you think they should be ignored?
Problem is that we have a government full of privileged people who have zero understanding of what it is like to really struggle. I think that they make these mistakes because they've never been taught what it is to be humble, whether that's through the private education system or usually coming from a background where their immediate family and friends are in positions of huge influence over poor people, it's going to have an effect on behaviour and characteristics as they are brought up to '.think for themselves' and question anything and everything that doesn't agree with their ideologies-ideologies that don't portray humility, empathy and understanding-that's replicated in their decision making and physical actions. It's so 'bred' into them that they don't even know that they're being dismissive or disparaging.
I did a three year stint working in Oxfordshire and the very affluent areas of West London. Many of the clients were privately educated in the best schools, usually boarders and went on to a very good university, they were born into wealth. Some of them were politicians, Bankers and a couple of Diplomats amongst others. Coming from south wales i was shocked by their lack of empathy and understanding, there was no warmth in their demeanour, expression or character, it just wasn't there. That's what privilege breeds, a sub conscious contempt towards people who they feel are there to serve them.
The kindest and most caring people i've ever met are the ones with the least,Maybe i'm being a bit simplistic, but wouldn't this country be better served by those who are actually nurtured to care about others? This current government doesn't give a shit, and it's not completely their fault, maybe they're victims of a system that allows them to exist in their current form, that said, they do everything possible to preserve it.
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
It's absolutely unreal isn't it, the f**king foreign secretary! The arrogance and incompetence is relentlessly staggering
It's a fair bet that this was not done accidentally. Cummings and his analytics crew will be polling social media for things that resonate with their base support and those recently won over. It's no surprise that we have been fed a constant drip of 10 years for statue wreckers, abolish DfID, protecting soldiers charged with crimes, MBGA by painting planes and now the ridiculing of taking the knee (or giving the knee as Maurice would call it)!
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Anyone voting for this shower of idiots needs a trip to the doctors
Racist , homophobic , bigoted and totally out of touch
And we have brexit yet to come
Turn the lights off !
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Priti Patel , home secretary , supports hanging
Unfecking believable bunch of swivel eyed marching idiots
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Priti Patel , home secretary , supports hanging
Unfecking believable bunch of swivel eyed marching idiots
That's not true, Sludge.
I don't think she specified what lethal action she preferred to deter people against crime.
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
That's not true, Sludge.
I don't think she specified what lethal action she preferred to deter people against crime.
https://youtu.be/_DrsVhzbLzU
I think the dreadful woman would actually enjoy seeing someone put to death
And if he or she was later found to be innocent then she would offer her deepest sympathies to the family
Horrible horrible tory