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William Treseder
Why do you describe it as “bottling it”
Do you not think it’s a good thing they are reconsidering?
I saw a granny loosely clutching her handbag at the bus stop today. Crept up beside her but then the bus turned up so I couldn't nab it.
Can I have a pat on the back and a round of applause please?
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dont like the backlash... but damage been done by the intent
new ownership would be ideal now as the fans see what they are capable of... but that wont happen
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Punish them for what?
If Chelsea and the other 5 were to pull out, then what would they be punished for.
That would be like the fuzz arresting someone, just for thinking about throwing a brick through a jewellers window 😂
No, it is like them arresting somebody for sending a letter to a jewellers telling them they are going to throw a brick through their window.
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It looks like Bale might need to have a word with his agent.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...eague-20427207
If Bale was behind this then it doesn't put him in a good light, especially now that it is unravelling.
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Eric Cartman
No, it is like them arresting somebody for sending a letter to a jewellers telling them they are going to throw a brick through their window.
What ever. Why can’t fans just be happy that clubs are starting to realise they were about to drop a clanger. Hate terms like “bottling it”.
If Tan had changed his mind so quick about the rebrand, it would have saved a lot of turmoil and bitterness.
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William Treseder
What ever. Why can’t fans just be happy that clubs are starting to realise they were about to drop a clanger. Hate terms like “bottling it”.
If Tan had changed his mind so quick about the rebrand, it would have saved a lot of turmoil and bitterness.
You only honestly think they won't/shouldn't get punished?
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Ed Woodward resigns from MU :yikes:
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MacAdder
Ed Woodward resigns from MU :yikes:
wow it's all happening
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I wonder how much the decisions to back out has to to with the backlash on this thread
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Looks like it's all falling apart. I hope the PL really throw the book at them. Big fines, big points deductions.
But they won't. And the Champions League will be tweaked to keep them all on board.
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Athletico and Barca pulling out.
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Woodward is leaving at the end of 2021, I don’t see how he can do that if he’s going because of the ESL.
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Are you that naive, that you think they didn’t realise what the general reaction would be ?
I've been surprised at the level of reaction and I imagine the clubs didn't expect such a reaction either. You've had governments condemning the plans for goodness sake
You don't want them to be punished for trying to rip up domestic football, are you that naïve to think they won't try again? Oh that's alright lads, try and rip up domestic football, show a complete lack of regard for fans, clubs and competition none of that matters now you've written an apology
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Originally Posted by
tforturton
Looks like it's all falling apart. I hope the PL really throw the book at them. Big fines, big points deductions.
But they won't. And the Champions League will be tweaked to keep them all on board.
We don't yet know what the PL have promised them yet, they may well have offered a sweetener.
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the other bob wilson
Woodward is leaving at the end of 2021, I don’t see how he can do that if he’s going because of the ESL.
Hes left already
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Honigstein💙
@honigstein
Earlier, I've put it to a German club official that the Super League 12 must have some really clever ideas to get around all the obstacles, relative to the huge reputational risk they're facing.
Answer: "Never underestimate the incompetence of people."
8:06 PM · Apr 20, 2021
:hehe:
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It appears that it's folding before it's started but are fans happy with the state of the game now that it's done?
i) concerns about young people getting into football should still exist. Perez said youth weren't interested in current modal of football to which someone stuck up a ticket for Real Madrid Champions League youth ticket which cost £80. Extreme ticket prices, amongst other things, cut out new supporters.
ii) concern about billionaire owners having ridiculous amounts of power over clubs they own should still exist. Are we now going to show more support to supporter's trusts and get fan representation on the board? Are the English FA still going to allow owners like ex-Wigan owner come in?
iii) concerns about extreme wealth inequality restricting competition in each league should still exist. The extreme inequality still exists just on a lesser scale. New Champions League modal was pushed through while we were distracted so can we have a European wide spending cap now please.
Or do fans just go back to the ticking time bomb that was football before this was suggested?
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
We don't yet know what the PL have promised them yet, they may well have offered a sweetener.
There is absolutely no need to. Those clubs have just been educated as to what is important. On the contrary, my hope is that this is a watershed moment and governing bodies will actually do more of what they are supposed to, and govern. These clubs should be punished, heavily. But at the same time rules must now be brought in to actually insist on better quality humans running these clubs for the benefit of the fans; and some proper financial control put in place. This has to spell the end of the nonsense of the last 20 years or so.
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To be fair to Perez he did have some great ideas to make the game more attractive to prospective younger fans.
Shorter games for one!
I think he was about to suggest bigger goals, more goals, cheerleaders, four quarters and US television personalities acting as celebrity refs, but the interviewer ran out of time.
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Andrea Agnellil resigns as president of Juventus!
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Are you that naive, that you think they didn’t realise what the general reaction would be ?
No, I don’t think they did - looks to me as if they have been taken aback by the ferocity of the reaction.
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It really is the year for shambolic coup attempts.
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Originally Posted by
surge
It appears that it's folding before it's started but are fans happy with the state of the game now that it's done?
i) concerns about young people getting into football should still exist. Perez said youth weren't interested in current modal of football to which someone stuck up a ticket for Real Madrid Champions League youth ticket which cost £80. Extreme ticket prices, amongst other things, cut out new supporters.
ii) concern about billionaire owners having ridiculous amounts of power over clubs they own should still exist. Are we now going to show more support to supporter's trusts and get fan representation on the board? Are the English FA still going to allow owners like ex-Wigan owner come in?
iii) concerns about extreme wealth inequality restricting competition in each league should still exist. The extreme inequality still exists just on a lesser scale. New Champions League modal was pushed through while we were distracted so can we have a European wide spending cap now please.
Or do fans just go back to the ticking time bomb that was football before this was suggested?
Aren't the government finally launching their review into football governance? I'm not expecting much but surely these past couple of days must show them that genuine change is needed overwise this will happen again
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Johnson and his cronies are loving having the spotlight taken away from their sleaze by this farrago
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When you consider the recent effects of Covid for fans and smaller clubs and jobs lost within those clubs , this move is so callous and disgusting
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Roy Race walks away from Melchester Rovers, Blackie Grey to follow.....the world’s caving in.
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Originally Posted by
City123
I've been surprised at the level of reaction and I imagine the clubs didn't expect such a reaction either. You've had governments condemning the plans for goodness sake
You don't want them to be punished for trying to rip up domestic football, are you that naïve to think they won't try again? Oh that's alright lads, try and rip up domestic football, show a complete lack of regard for fans, clubs and competition none of that matters now you've written an apology
No. Of course they shouldn’t be punished. The fans of the clubs were against it, as were the players. It’s not their fault they have power hungry greedy ****ers running their clubs.
I’d have been all for throwing the book at them if they’d gone ahead, but they’ve not.
Pressures on the other 4 now.
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Best protest banner so far - "We want our cold nights in Stoke"
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
No. Of course they shouldn’t be punished. The fans of the clubs were against it, as were the players. It’s not their fault they have power hungry greedy ****ers running their clubs.
I’d have been all for throwing the book at them if they’d gone ahead, but they’ve not.
Pressures on the other 4 now.
They can be punished, fine the owners, punish them, not the players or, indirectly, the fans. Put the money in a ‘help the lower league clubs’ pot to be distributed in genuine hardship cases.
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jon1959
Andrea Agnellil resigns as president of Juventus!
Good to see the Grauniad spellchecker is still in the box, Jon! Caveat Copier as they say!:biggrin:
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
No. Of course they shouldn’t be punished. The fans of the clubs were against it, as were the players. It’s not their fault they have power hungry greedy ****ers running their clubs.
I’d have been all for throwing the book at them if they’d gone ahead, but they’ve not.
Pressures on the other 4 now.
Fans and players aren't responsible for clubs going into admin yet get punished. There are fans of these teams calling for their own clubs to be punished.
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
No. Of course they shouldn’t be punished. The fans of the clubs were against it, as were the players. It’s not their fault they have power hungry greedy ****ers running their clubs.
I’d have been all for throwing the book at them if they’d gone ahead, but they’ve not.
Pressures on the other 4 now.
Did the Wigan fans deserve relegation for the owner's stitch up?
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City123
Did the Wigan fans deserve relegation for the owner's stitch up?
Are we talking about punishing the clubs or the owners? I’m all for the latter.
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Originally Posted by
City123
Aren't the government finally launching their review into football governance? I'm not expecting much but surely these past couple of days must show them that genuine change is needed overwise this will happen again
I guess we'll see what happens. Will be fascinating to see how much of the ticking time bomb is allowed to continue or whether fans of these clubs (and others) push for stakes in their club.
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One thing that still annoys me is that Portsmouth won an FA Cup thanks to dodgy dealings which the league caught up with eventually and punished them. If that was the Olympics the unfortunate silver medalists would have retrospectively been awarded gold:getscoat:
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light up the darkness
Johnson and his cronies are loving having the spotlight taken away from their sleaze by this farrago
Your post is a political comment based presumably on your own beliefs and has nothing whatsoever to do with the theme of this thread.
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
To be fair to Perez he did have some great ideas to make the game more attractive to prospective younger fans.
Shorter games for one!
I think he was about to suggest bigger goals, more goals, cheerleaders, four quarters and US television personalities acting as celebrity refs, but the interviewer ran out of time.
The mans a nutter.
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dml1954
Your post is a political comment based presumably on your own beliefs and has nothing whatsoever to do with the theme of this thread.
The thread is about the European Super League which Johnson has involved himself in, surely that means mentioning him in this thread is relevant. And it is true that any incompetent person thrives on deflection.
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jon1959
Andrea Agnellil resigns as president of Juventus!
The ESL is a house of cards ... built on sand...on an earthquake fault...on the slopes of an active volcano