FT: SHEFFIELD UTD 4 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

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Yeah Lamouchi picked himself didn't he.
He also messed about with an experiment of putting two managers with zero experience in actually managing for large chunks of the season too.

I blame the decision makers at the club, yes.
Vincent Tan says he will leave the club in a better position than when he came in. How do you suggest he does that if he thinks the way to achieve that is to spend ever decreasing amounts on absolutely awful players, putting us into an embargo and picking any manager that the manager wheel of fortune falls on in the boardroom?
He will leave us high and dry in League 2 the way things are going.

We are in a tailspin and people think we might challenge in League 1 if we go down. Don't make me laugh. Let's blame the latest manager that our incompetent board have picked though.

I hope the Tan apologists can look themselves in the mirror when he leaves us with a shell of what this club once was.

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And on being called a Tan apologist :hehe: I take my leave of this thread.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

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Yeah Lamouchi picked himself didn't he.
He also messed about with an experiment of putting two managers with zero experience in actually managing for large chunks of the season too.

I blame the decision makers at the club, yes.
Vincent Tan says he will leave the club in a better position than when he came in. How do you suggest he does that if he thinks the way to achieve that is to spend ever decreasing amounts on absolutely awful players, putting us into an embargo and picking any manager that the manager wheel of fortune falls on in the boardroom?
He will leave us high and dry in League 2 the way things are going.

We are in a tailspin and people think we might challenge in League 1 if we go down. Don't make me laugh. Let's blame the latest manager that our incompetent board have picked though.

I hope the Tan apologists can look themselves in the mirror when he leaves us with a shell of what this club once was.

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Your making yourself look ridiculous now. Tan apologists need to look themselves in the mirror. Get a grip ffs.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I’m not pretending all is well, if we survive this season, we’re going down soon if the club continues to be run as it is, but it’s not all down to just one man.

Basically, I agree with you, but I reckon your obsession is damaging your cause.

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There is no cause. I just see it as common sense of criticising a leadership team that is actively damaging our club. Yes, he is keeping us afloat but at what cost? When he leaves what position will we be in then? The club needs change. An owner who knows what a club like ours needs to be successful, not just stumbling along trying to spend as little as possible and guessing on the running of the club.

The fans will get the club that they deserve. Not many have the stomach to even come close to criticising Tan let alone doing anything about it. Very sad situation.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

The fans will get the club that they deserve. Not many have the stomach to even come close to criticising Tan let alone doing anything about it. Very sad situation.

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Out of interest, what are you doing about it?

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Out of interest, what are you doing about it?

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Crazy ramblings on thread after thread on CCMB. But at least he can look himself in the mirror.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

Your making yourself look ridiculous now. Tan apologists need to look themselves in the mirror. Get a grip ffs.

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For me pointing fingers at anywhere but where they need to be pointed is justifying this shit show.

This board have created what is currently happening at the club. You might think I am making myself ridiculous. Justifying what Tan is doing and accepting it is a lot more unforgiveable.

Could write an essay on that game on the way home but in short, we can’t defend, we can’t score and Allsop is the worst keeper we’ve had since Turnbull. McG and Allsop were poor and Ng was miles off it, again. Wickham and Kaba doesn’t work and why O’Dowda came on to play CB God knows.

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Beginning of the season would have said Allsop was an average Championship keeper. He actually seems to have got progressively worse as the season goes on. He's now a rank liability - should have stopped the 1st, missed the ball for the 3rd, and jumped into thin air for their 4th. He is utter garbage.

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He must be the worst keeper we’ve had in 20 years, we usually did ok for keepers

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Originally Posted by Hilts

Crazy ramblings on thread after thread on CCMB. But at least he can look himself in the mirror.

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Crazy ramblings?

The board are crap. Tell me how I am wrong if the ramblings are so crazy?

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Out of interest, what are you doing about it?

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Not a lot. The majority of our support have no stomach for it any more.
Many feel we should be thankful to Tan.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

Not a lot. The majority of our support have no stomach for it any more.
Many feel we should be thankful to Tan.

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What would you prefer instead of Tan out of interest? (I’m asking genuinely as I have seen some pretty awful owners in my time - Bob Grogan, The Kumars)

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

What would you prefer instead of Tan out of interest? (I’m asking genuinely as I have seen some pretty awful owners in my time - Bob Grogan, The Kumars)

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Grogan awful really why

An owner that isn't running the club into the ground.

Or a very big change in the thought process and realising a football club needs top level football knowledge on the board.

Out of interest where do you think we are headed under Tan?
Do you think he will leave us in a better position and situation? I certainly don't.

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

What would you prefer instead of Tan out of interest? (I’m asking genuinely as I have seen some pretty awful owners in my time - Bob Grogan, The Kumars)

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Bob Grogan was probably the best chairman I can remember. A former Newcastle fan he appeared to come to genuinely love the club before his untimely death at the age of only 54 in the early 80's

Why do you say he was awful? He saved the club from extinction.

No comparison whatsoever with Kumar who was one of our worst chairmen.

wrong thread

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Originally Posted by fugsyphil

Grogan awful really why

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Didn't he buy an aeroplane, with the purpose of flying the team to long-distance away games?
The only thing he had over looked was the plane didn't have enough seating capacity for a full-match day squad, manager,kit manager, medical staff, etc etc

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues

Bob Grogan was probably the best chairman I can remember. A former Newcastle fan he appeared to come to genuinely love the club before his untimely death at the age of only 54 in the early 80's

Why do you say he was awful? He saved the club from extinction.

No comparison whatsoever with Kumar who was one of our worst chairmen.

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Kumar just didn't have the necessary finance.
He installed his wife, Joan Hill (lovely lady) as Chief Executive or something similar.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

Not a lot.

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Absolutely nothing would be more accurate, unless you count boring the piss out of people with your anonymous ramblings on here day after day after day.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Absolutely nothing would be more accurate, unless you count boring the piss out of people with your anonymous ramblings on here day after day after day.

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Look out it's the boycotter.

If it is that boring then whack me on ignore.
You can always have a rethink in the future. You're good at that.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

Look out it's the boycotter.

If it is that boring then whack me on ignore.
You can always have a rethink in the future. You're good at that.

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If you and others boycotted when Tan changed our kits, maybe we wouldn’t be where we are. Some people actually did something while you just whinge about others not caring on here while doing precisely **** all.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

You can always have a rethink in the future. You're good at that.

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You have seven days until the Stoke City game. Why not organise a pre-match anti-Tan protest? Stick your head above the parapet for once. Go on, you can do it.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

If you and others boycotted when Tan changed our kits, maybe we wouldn’t be where we are. Some people actually did something while you just whinge about others not caring on here while doing precisely **** all.

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Maybe we wouldn't. Maybe we would.

If I do boycott the club though and tell everybody and their mate that I'm doing it I wouldn't be back until Tan left.

Fact is I didn't.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

You have seven days until the Stoke City game. Why not organise a pre-match anti-Tan protest? Stick your head above the parapet for once. Go on, you can do it.

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Who with?

People don't seem upset enough to protest do they.

I'd be on my own it seems. I am astonished that people aren't more fed up with our ownership and board.

Get me on ignore if it bores you.
I will actually be posting a bit less if possible as it is achieving very little on here. People don't have appetite for even a silent protest with scarves. You can't organise anything with people who seem fine with the owner.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Wickham hitting the post was the turning point for me, that goes in and we, deservedly I thought, draw level and it’s game on. Fine margins. 21 shots to their 20, yet lose 4-1 through daft, schoolboy errors. VAR maybe would have ruled out their fourth, seemed like a couple of handballs. Bollocks!!!!!!

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If we lose there are people who will say we are rubbish.

We were rubbish against Sunderland, and lost 1-0. We were not rubbish collectively against Sheff Utd and lost 4 - 1.

A couple of bad mistakes against a very strong though not inspiring team gave a result which was not a fair reflection of the game.

I sigh if Bluelewj is in a thread. I've seen his opinion a million times and don't care, because he is a one-trick single-agenda pony. What a keyboard warrior!! Does he realise what a bore he is? I doubt it.

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Beginning of the season would have said Allsop was an average Championship keeper. He actually seems to have got progressively worse as the season goes on. He's now a rank liability - should have stopped the 1st, missed the ball for the 3rd, and jumped into thin air for their 4th. He is utter garbage.

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His surname is now very appropriate.

:ayatollah:

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Originally Posted by rich munn

If we lose there are people who will say we are rubbish.

We were rubbish against Sunderland, and lost 1-0. We were not rubbish collectively against Sheff Utd and lost 4 - 1.

A couple of bad mistakes against a very strong though not inspiring team gave a result which was not a fair reflection of the game.

I sigh if Bluelewj is in a thread. I've seen his opinion a million times and don't care, because he is a one-trick single-agenda pony. What a keyboard warrior!! Does he realise what a bore he is? I doubt it.

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Ignore button works as well as it ever has.

I will be posting less though.

Never thought I'd say it but there seems more true feelings for the wellbeing of the club on the other board.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

Who with?

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Who knows? Maybe hundreds will turn out if you make an effort. Maybe thousands will. Maybe nobody will. But we’ll never know because you won’t organise a protest, will you? Instead, you’ll complain that nobody is doing anything to oppose Tan while doing absolutely nothing to oppose Tan. Because that’s the sort of person you are.

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

Didn't he buy an aeroplane, with the purpose of flying the team to long-distance away games?
The only thing he had over looked was the plane didn't have enough seating capacity for a full-match day squad, manager,kit manager, medical staff, etc etc

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Pretty sure he didn't no, though he already had aeroplanes which he used for his other businesses. He may have hoped to use/claim expenses for that for football but they weren't bought with that purpose in mind.
He was a friend of my father's who was also briefly on the board and a mad keen pilot who flew everywhere whenever he could.

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

Didn't he buy an aeroplane, with the purpose of flying the team to long-distance away games?
The only thing he had over looked was the plane didn't have enough seating capacity for a full-match day squad, manager,kit manager, medical staff, etc etc

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Quite.

But apparently he was great according to some.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Who knows? Maybe hundreds will turn out if you make an effort. Maybe thousands will. Maybe nobody will. But we’ll never know because you won’t organise a protest, will you? Instead, you’ll complain that nobody is doing anything to oppose Tan while doing absolutely nothing to oppose Tan. Because that’s the sort of person you are.

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I'm a person who doesn't get protests off the ground yes.

I won't ignore the main issues at the club though.

As I say the other board seems to have people who genuinely have the wellbeing of the club at heart. Can't believe I'm even typing that. Just very contrasting groups.

You'll be happy to know I will be posting less. Many here are a lost cause. Hope they enjoy League 1 and lower under this lot.

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

Quite.

But apparently he was great according to some.

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Wasn't it a 10-seater?

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Originally Posted by rich munn

Wasn't it a 10-seater?

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Who was on the wing?

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

I'm a person who doesn't get protests off the ground yes.

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You don’t do anything at all. You just moan about others doing nothing while doing absolutely nothing yourself. Grow a backbone, man! Display some courage for once. Stop endlessly grizzling about Tan and his board and actually do something to oppose them. Take the initiative. Organise a protest. I was going to repeat that you can do it, but in fairness it’s obvious you can’t.

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Originally Posted by fugsyphil

Pretty sure he didn't no, though he already had aeroplanes which he used for his other businesses. He may have hoped to use/claim expenses for that for football but they weren't bought with that purpose in mind.
He was a friend of my father's who was also briefly on the board and a mad keen pilot who flew everywhere whenever he could.

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Either way it is sad that he died so young. Only 54 :-(

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

I'm a person who doesn't get protests off the ground yes.

I won't ignore the main issues at the club though.

As I say the other board seems to have people who genuinely have the wellbeing of the club at heart. Can't believe I'm even typing that. Just very contrasting groups.

You'll be happy to know I will be posting less. Many here are a lost cause. Hope they enjoy League 1 and lower under this lot.

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Well go over there.

Of course last time your posts were over there you claimed someone was impersonating you and you were complaining about them on this board.🤣🤣🤣

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

As I say the other board seems to have people who genuinely have the wellbeing of the club at heart. Can't believe I'm even typing that. Just very contrasting groups.

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Interesting. What are they organising to improve the wellbeing of the club?

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

You don’t do anything at all. You just moan about others doing nothing while doing absolutely nothing yourself. Grow a backbone, man! Display some courage for once. Stop endlessly grizzling about Tan and his board and actually do something to oppose them. Take the initiative. Organise a protest. I was going to repeat that you can do it, but in fairness it’s obvious you can’t.

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I do moan a lot, yes.

I'd like to see the club in a better light, I really would. I can just see us going downhill fast.

It would be better for me to post less here.

As I've said with the protest, a silent protest along the lines of Man United's Green and yellow scarves was touched on by me on here. It was shot down as not the right time. If you can't get a shred of interest for a silent protest then sadly it isn't going to happen.

We will get the club we deserve.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Interesting. What are they organising to improve the wellbeing of the club?

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Nothing. We've established this.

I suggested a silent protest. It was shot down as the wrong time for it. It is what it is.

We as a fanbase are doing nothing.

Maybe the time has come to sack off the profile.
I'll hardly be back as another username either as my anti Tan sentiment would stick out like a sore thumb.

How would you go about deleting a profile?

Not sure slagging off the board on most topics is healthy for the threads or for me if I'm honest.
I only hope that there is some appetite for saving our club but posting here and being shouted down achieves little.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

As I've said with the protest, a silent protest along the lines of Man United's Green and yellow scarves was touched on by me on here.

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Get it organised, then. Set it up. Publicise it. Contact the press. Take the initiative. It’s not difficult, although what scarves you’d use I don’t know. But if you feel strongly about the situation, do something. Don’t just criticise others for doing nothing when you’re doing nothing yourself.