It is neither a nation nor a country. If I followed your logic I could call Dorset or Devon a country. Have some decorum please.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue sky
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It is neither a nation nor a country. If I followed your logic I could call Dorset or Devon a country. Have some decorum please.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue sky
Well me definitely for one!Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
It's nothing to do with nationalism; it's all about Socialism v Capitalism. There's plenty of rich capitalists in Wales just like anywhere else: I have nothing in common with them. Wales also voted for Brexit, that's another reason to distance myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue sky
Your grandfather Dai and your father (what's his name?) sound like eminently sensible people.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Thinly veiled. ‘Every bugger in Ely is a benefit dependent scrounger, up to no good’...........Not so thinly veiled, ‘I’m a ‘I’m a better than you true blue Tory bigot’.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
It was right in your face 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
He's given the game away so many times...he's got a vendetta against Drakeford. So predictable!Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Not at all, just stating the principle that people vote for what works best for them and their families, Ely like most of Wales has a demographic that will vote Labour.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
No one is better than anyone else, everyone makes their own choices in life and some people are on benefits because they are ill or sick, I didn't say anything bad about that just stated a fact.
I didn't say I was better than anyone or that I was tory.
You on the other hand oh look at me, I'm better than you I'm in Barcelona and Pisa!
Thought so, he's shocking!Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
I know, us socialists actually going on holiday, what’s the world coming to eh? Equality for all mate, that’s the way forward not snide comments about the less fortunate, then your next post protesting ‘I didn’t say anything bad’. Your agenda sticks out a mile and it stinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Am I ok to go to Turkey in a fortnight for the game please?
The extra money has to come from somewhere, so taxes will increase if spending is to increase, of course, they will try and tax the wealthiest significantly more, but that won't work the super-rich will just move money around and use overseas or UK loopholes and good accountants. So yes everyone will have to pay even more if they can get away with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Of course not but the vote goes for the demographic of the area and as people have stated, Ely always has been and probably always will be Labour, because they feel it will benefit them more, or do you think it's because they have a pretty rose on the badge?
The shower of shit at the other end of the M4 is making him out to be better than he is but I do think he handled the pandemic really well and has tried his best and I think he genuinely wants what's best for Wales.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Ha ha yes enjoy yourself not too much Champagne though it's bad for you!Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
It was a disaster, he killed our economy and wanted to lock down forever, Westminster overreacted too, but he and Sturgeon made it much harder than it should have been.Quote:
Originally Posted by PontBlue
The country is in a mess because of the overreaction, if they had their way we would be in a much worse state, furlough and lockdown we will be paying the furlough and business loan money back in taxes for the rest of our lives as it is.
Strictly beer......and not too much of that nowadays.......unless it’s a City football day.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
You may not have said you were a tory but you most certainly areQuote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Your disdain for anyone who doesn't live in rhiwbina is perfectly clear
Where have you found evidence that a labour government is going to increase welfare benefit spending over and above the cost of living ?Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Guess which benefit loads of people in North Cardiff get ?
He was a hero; he saved many lives. In those circumstances the economy rightly takes a back seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
I think that he did a good job in unique and very difficult circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Was Wales' death rate much different to England's? And was that down to demographic and housing differences or the head of government?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
An inquest has been opened, and adjourned, but we're still none the wiser regarding your last question. WalesOnline's article states that the boys died in a collision but without any evidence to back that up.Quote:
Originally Posted by SOXY BOY
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...crash-27033525
Nonsense people can live where they like and vote how they like, it's obvious why most of Wales will always be Labour that's what I was replying to.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I have said before I have voted for many parties and never Farage or hard right parties or Corbyn.
The first lockdown was sensible, it should have been reviewed quicker and hard decisions made, all parties were at fault, but Wales and Scotland made things worse, you'll probably be paying for people not working and sleeping all day i the Sun for the rest of your life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
You can't have it both ways say the economies crap and it's good we locked down for so long Drakeford is a hero and we should have locked down longer, they've made it harder for youngsters.
Biggest issue now is Drakefords stupid reluctance to get people back in offices, unlike in England.
All this investment in the Metro. Who the hell is gonna use it? What will young people do? Sit on their own in their twenties and never meet co workers?
He didn't have a bad pandemic. But the sooner he goes the better for Wales.
It saved lives QEDQuote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Deja vu. Boy on e bike in Greater Manchester followed by police, killed in collision!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65850704
Very sad situation, as the Ely one was. Odd that the incident seems to have occurred after getting through the bollards which should have meant safety, as happened in Ely.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
I've no idea what the answer is here. If the police never follow an e bike ridden by someone without protective gear on then surely that'll give a green light to all sorts of criminal or dangerous behaviour but, of course, these lads don't deserve a death penalty for whatever it was they were doing, or suspected of doing, wrong either.
What's your take on it?
Same as you. I don’t know what the answer is. I can’t see restrictions on sales working and although safety education sounds OK it would probably only be taken up by the kids who wouldn’t ride in a dangerous way anyhow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loramski
Yes, just as any regulations brought in will be an extra expense and inconvenience to the law-abiding while being ignored by the irresponsible.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Interesting turn of events in Italy where the transport minister (and deputy PM) proposed bringing in all sorts of nonsense, including indicators, for all bikes but has had to do a rapid u-turn within 48 hours and now claims he only intended it for scooters.
https://road.cc/content/news/italian...yclists-301797
How and where do kids get hold of top end 4k bikes ??
They are 14 to 15 of age so not in full time work yet alledgly living on an estate where money is tough to come buy???
Must be an answer out there ?
Let no stone be left unturnedQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Sort of
I'm not expecting much to come from this, I'm sure you're not either. With the boys' funerals coming up (July 6th, apparently) no one's going to want to rock the boat for now and that statement seems to tick all the right boxes in terms of keeping the peace without really saying anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Wales online article here too
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...riots-27113461
Still claiming the boys died in a collision without providing any evidence. Interesting that the IOPC is still appealing for witnesses. There's obviously some confusion about an aspect of this, unless they're just trying to buy themselves some time before having to come to any kind of conclusion. Which won't be easy, to be fair.
The whole thing is being handled extremely badly and it's another example of keystone cops by South Wales PoliceQuote:
Originally Posted by Loramski
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...=breaking-news
Two arrests and 20 vehicles seized after ride-out to remember teenagers killed in Ely crash
If this is yet another cover up then surely heads should rollQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
He gets around a bitQuote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
He's recently been nicked in Llanelli outside that asylum seekers Hotel
Must have a few quid in the bank
I don't think there's talk of cover up is there?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Will be interesting to see how this pans out as surely dangerous driving is part and parcel of chasing after people? I guess it comes down to whether they should have done so or not, which does raise questions for catching criminals
Well it's certainly not looking goodQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales