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Rjk
:shrug:
1. Government funded scientists say the end is nigh.
2. The cult scream "do something".
3. The government proceed to work quietly with a group of billionaires on a multitude of intertwined solutions, that nobody questions or understands what effects it will have on their lives. <--- We are here.
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Wales-Bales
Google is a cult training algorithm :hehe:
Fiddling while Greece burns.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66322608
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the other bob wilson
Very small sample, but something that may be a concern, what’s the best solution going forward do you think ?
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the other bob wilson
havent they come out and blamed arson?
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TheGoose
havent they come out and blamed arson?
They did, and it seems that there was some arson, but I think it’s become too widespread now for it to be the case everywhere.
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the other bob wilson
They did, and it seems that there was some arson, but I think it’s become too widespread now for it to be the case everywhere.
well ill defer to your knowledge on wildfires!
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TheGoose
havent they come out and blamed arson?
Some arson. Some spontaneous.
All bigger, longer lasting, and harder to control because of the extreme temperatures and baked dry soil and vegetation.
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TheGoose
well ill defer to your knowledge on wildfires!
The fires are on at least three separate islands and there’s sixty four of them.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...-b1096291.html
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This isn't to be taken as a comment on wider issues, but seriously, how shite is the weather here this summer?
I just checked and this 19c cloudy drizzle is here for the next 10 days at least
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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the other bob wilson
The WEF must have deployed an army of arsonists.
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JamesWales
This isn't to be taken as a comment on wider issues, but seriously, how shite is the weather here this summer?
I just checked and this 19c cloudy drizzle is here for the next 10 days at least
And the hottest June on record.
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jon1959
And the hottest June on record.
and globally July is the hottest month ever recorded
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
But Climate Change is not a problem!
CO2 is great - plants love it!
More people die of cold than heat - at least in Sussex!
And anyway it was a bit nippy and drizzly in Barry last week so it's obviously all nonsense!
Other detailed climate analysis available from this Frost-Lawson propaganda and lobbying group:
https://www.desmog.com/debunked-lord...cy-foundation/
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jon1959
But Climate Change is not a problem!
CO2 is great - plants love it!
More people die of cold than heat - at least in Sussex!
And anyway it was a bit nippy and drizzly in Barry last week so it's obviously all nonsense!
Other detailed climate analysis available from this Frost-Lawson propaganda and lobbying group:
https://www.desmog.com/debunked-lord...cy-foundation/
obviously not going to click the link but the amount of angst people have for this topic just genuinely surprised me
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TheGoose
obviously not going to click the link but the amount of angst people have for this topic just genuinely surprised me
Why and why?
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TheGoose
obviously not going to click the link but the amount of angst people have for this topic just genuinely surprised me
It's a cult and if you don't fall in your are far right, this topic is not questionable, just like the other cult of resent years, dem's the rules. I'm sure you will have had a looksey at the climate nonsense, Co2 is a trace element in the atmosphere and is at around 421 ppm (0.04%) and human activities contribute only a small portion of this 421 ppm, plenty of climate scientists getting the same treatment as the C19 ones who questioned it. The transition is already being made from climate warming to climate boiling!! :hehe:
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Rjk
and globally July is the hottest month ever recorded
Which scientists have said this
For every one scientist stating global warming, there is another who can prove otherwise..
It’s just that one side gets suppressed more.
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TWGL1
Which scientists have said this
For every one scientist stating global warming, there is another who can prove otherwise..
It’s just that one side gets suppressed more.
Nonsense.
It is not a 50:50 split of 'opinion' between scientists across the world.
97% of scientists working on climate agree on the facts of global warming and agree that human action is driving rises way above the historical cyclical norms.
From what I can see and read the majority of 'bought' opinion is on the side of climate change denial and the apologists for Big Oil - as it has been for decades. That minority viewpoint is amplified through social media campaigns and major sections of the print and online media. Not the major broadcast players in the UK - BBC/ITV/Sky - but plenty of the right wing press and massive sections of the new media reflect and amplify that view.
Traditional wealth and power is still mainly behind climate change denial - it is certainly not acting in the interests of the poor and the vulnerable.
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jon1959
Nonsense.
It is not a 50:50 split of 'opinion' between scientists across the world.
97% of scientists working on climate agree on the facts of global warming and agree that human action is driving rises way above the historical cyclical norms.
From what I can see and read the majority of 'bought' opinion is on the side of climate change denial and the apologists for Big Oil - as it has been for decades. That minority viewpoint is amplified through social media campaigns and major sections of the print and online media. Not the major broadcast players in the UK - BBC/ITV/Sky - but plenty of the right wing press and massive sections of the new media reflect and amplify that view.
Traditional wealth and power is still mainly behind climate change denial - it is certainly not acting in the interests of the poor and the vulnerable.
I’ve no idea what the actual split is , neither do you , but I don’t see any mainstream articles with an alternative viewpoint.
That being said , it will be the poor and vulnerable who this policy will effect more than most as you say.
ULEZ a case in point.
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TWGL1
I’ve no idea what the actual split is , neither do you , but I don’t see any mainstream articles with an alternative viewpoint.
That being said , it will be the poor and vulnerable who this policy will effect more than most as you say.
ULEZ a case in point.
the poor and vulnerable will also pay a high price if we do nothing
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Rjk
the poor and vulnerable will also pay a high price if we do nothing
everyone will pay a high price anyway :shrug: widening a ULEZ border or getting people to travel on planes less isnt going to stop whats coming. it might take 10,000 years, it might take longer, it might take a few hundred. but in the meantime we all have to live restrictive more expensive lives, paying for policies that do nothing except make everyone more miserable.
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TheGoose
everyone will pay a high price anyway :shrug: widening a ULEZ border or getting people to travel on planes less isnt going to stop whats coming. it might take 10,000 years, it might take longer, it might take a few hundred. but in the meantime we all have to live restrictive more expensive lives, paying for policies that do nothing except make everyone more miserable.
where are you getting 10000 years from?
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Rjk
where are you getting 10000 years from?
same place i got "a few hundred" from. the earth has been and will continue to go through geological periods that are warmer than we are currently experiencing. and this will happen again.
itll happen again inspite of the fact that 8 billion humans are living on it, pushing more co2 into the air than would be the case if there were 0 humans. itll also happen if we all died off tomorrow.
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TheGoose
same place i got "a few hundred" from. the earth has been and will continue to go through geological periods that are warmer than we are currently experiencing. and this will happen again.
itll happen again inspite of the fact that 8 billion humans are living on it, pushing more co2 into the air than would be the case if there were 0 humans. itll also happen if we all died off tomorrow.
well you're very much at odds with almost all climate scientists on this? why do you think you know better?
Do you understand why climate scientists know that this warming period is different?
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Rjk
well you're very much at odds with almost all climate scientists on this? why do you think you know better?
Do you understand why climate scientists know that this warming period is different?
Why are High CO2 producing countries products & services not banned here then if there is so much concern?
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Rjk
well you're very much at odds with almost all climate scientists on this? why do you think you know better?
Do you understand why climate scientists know that this warming period is different?
is it because theres 8 billion people living here this time?
or is it more specifically that we are all naughty sinners with our holidays and our meat eating?
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https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
Greenpeace co-founder, Dr. Patrick Moore:
“[The climate catastrophe] is totally fabricated in the first place. The climate’s been changing ever since the Earth was created, and it continues to change. Nothing that is happening in this global climate today is anywhere near out of the ordinary. This is a relatively benign time of climate and weather.
Censorship is also on the rise according to this SKY news article.
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TWGL1
https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
Greenpeace co-founder, Dr. Patrick Moore:
“[The climate catastrophe] is totally fabricated in the first place. The climate’s been changing ever since the Earth was created, and it continues to change. Nothing that is happening in this global climate today is anywhere near out of the ordinary. This is a relatively benign time of climate and weather.
Censorship is also on the rise according to this SKY news article.
https://www.desmog.com/patrick-moore/
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Hmm, I wonder if it would be easier to fund the 97% (more like 99.9% now - https://news.cornell.edu/stories/202...climate-change ) of scientific papers that say human action predominantly is causing climate change, or the tiny number of others that don't...
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not everyone agrees with this 97% figure being banded about !
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ON THE "97% OF SCIENTISTS AGREE" ON AGW & CO2 LIE:<br>"It's a blatant lie that 97% of scientists agree [that global warming is man made & that we need to reduce CO2 emissions] in reality only 1.6% of scientists agree with the above statements." <a href="https://twitter.com/thierrybaudet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thierrybaudet</a> <a href="https://t.co/n72HpPufeh">pic.twitter.com/n72HpPufeh</a></p>— Robin Monotti (@robinmonotti) <a href="https://twitter.com/robinmonotti/status/1684873005455798273?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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MOZZER2
not everyone agrees with this 97% figure being banded about !
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ON THE "97% OF SCIENTISTS AGREE" ON AGW & CO2 LIE:<br>"It's a blatant lie that 97% of scientists agree [that global warming is man made & that we need to reduce CO2 emissions] in reality only 1.6% of scientists agree with the above statements." <a href="https://twitter.com/thierrybaudet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thierrybaudet</a> <a href="https://t.co/n72HpPufeh">pic.twitter.com/n72HpPufeh</a></p>— Robin Monotti (@robinmonotti) <a href="https://twitter.com/robinmonotti/status/1684873005455798273?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Only 1.6% of people disagree with the 97% figure and don't think Robin Monotti is adding too much methane to the CO2!
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Fast Show had this in their sight years ago El Scorchio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FE4ulhtG6o
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jon1959
Only 1.6% of people disagree with the 97% figure and don't think Robin Monotti is adding too much methane to the CO2!
And yet it’s the 98:4 per cent who are the cult :hehe:
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MOZZER2
not everyone agrees with this 97% figure being banded about !
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ON THE "97% OF SCIENTISTS AGREE" ON AGW & CO2 LIE:<br>"It's a blatant lie that 97% of scientists agree [that global warming is man made & that we need to reduce CO2 emissions] in reality only 1.6% of scientists agree with the above statements." <a href="https://twitter.com/thierrybaudet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thierrybaudet</a> <a href="https://t.co/n72HpPufeh">pic.twitter.com/n72HpPufeh</a></p>— Robin Monotti (@robinmonotti) <a href="https://twitter.com/robinmonotti/status/1684873005455798273?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Not everyone agrees that the world is a globe.
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lardy
I obviously can't do it myself, but I learned about how they do it when I was school age. I didn't think it was that impressive to know.
At school they also taught me about photosynthesis.
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lardy
Not everyone agrees that the world is a globe.
Good old Organ Morgan
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the other bob wilson
It’s almost a year to the day when the temperature hit forty one degrees in the UK and I can remember there were those on here (mostly members of the gifted and talented set) dismissing the notion of global warming even then.
In one year China increased their Co2 emmissions more than the entire emissions of the United Kingdom
If we [UK] got to net zero tomorrow it wouldn't make any difference'
➡️ Even Tony Blair is highlighting what many have been saying for a while.
https://twitter.com/statsjamie/statu...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
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TWGL1
In one year China increased their Co2 emmissions more than the entire emissions of the United Kingdom
If we [UK] got to net zero tomorrow it wouldn't make any difference'
➡️ Even Tony Blair is highlighting what many have been saying for a while.
https://twitter.com/statsjamie/statu...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
It's not the winning, it's the taking part.
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Dorcus
It's not the winning, it's the taking part.
Taking part if you can afford it.
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TWGL1
Taking part if you can afford it.
This guy is taking part.
Extreme lefty virtuoso cultists
Years gone by slavery, what a bunch of bastards
Current day child slavery, it's all good, nothing to see
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