The Donald Trump thread

I would say that things are not looking good for Trump.

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Cohen — who pleaded guilty earlier on Tuesday to helping President Trump pay hush money to two women — wants to tell Mueller that Trump knew of an infamous 2016 meeting at Trump Tower and the Russian hacking of Democratic institutions before they took place, Lanny Davis told MSNBC.

“Mr. Cohen has knowledge on certain subjects that should be of interest to the special counsel and is more than happy to tell the special counsel all that he knows,” Davis told the network.

“Not just about the obvious possibility of a conspiracy to collude and corrupt the American democracy system in the 2016 election, which the Trump Tower meeting was all about, but also knowledge about the computer crime of hacking and whether or not Mr. Trump knew ahead of time about that crime and even cheered it on.”

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https://nypost.com/2018/08/21/cohen-...ollude-lawyer/

Not a good day for 45 fair play with his lawyer stating he did what he did under direction from DT.

Wonder what Cohen will tell in order to get a lesser sentence.

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

Not a good day for 45 fair play with his lawyer stating he did what he did under direction from DT.

Wonder what Cohen will tell in order to get a lesser sentence.

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It's the kids you have to feel sorry for. Little Gluey loves his red MAGA cap. Imagine his face when sees the news this morning. It's heartbreaking.

It’s ironic that he spent all this time talking about draining the swamp when he’s had close connections with two convicted criminals.

The reason I don’t like him as I could see he’s a sleazy immoral character who’s full of shit, I’ve no doubt more will come out too.


He won’t be going anywhere though the Republicans won’t give him up.

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Originally Posted by lardy

It's the kids you have to feel sorry for. Little Gluey loves his red MAGA cap. Imagine his face when sees the news this morning. It's heartbreaking.

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He's already had a wobble, asking me to "clarify which US law(s) he [Trump] has broken stating the relevant clause number(s), the evidence supporting this claim of guilt, and details of any prevous offences". Like I'm the ****ing prosecutor here.

Let's let Mueller do his thing now. In the words of Gluey "things are about to get very interesting in Trumpland" :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

He's already had a wobble, asking me to "clarify which US law(s) he [Trump] has broken stating the relevant clause number(s), the evidence supporting this claim of guilt, and details of any prevous offences". Like I'm the ****ing prosecutor here.

Let's let Mueller do his thing now. In the words of Gluey "things are about to get very interesting in Trumpland" :biggrin:

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I don't recall him being quite such a stickler for legal detail with Awan the IT guy, Strzok, Obama, Hillary, Comey, or the dozens of other people he's accused of illegal activity in this thread (I've forgotten most of the conspiracy theories) on the basis of nothing more than flimsy internet gossip.

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

It’s ironic that he spent all this time talking about draining the swamp when he’s had close connections with two convicted criminals.

The reason I don’t like him as I could see he’s a sleazy immoral character who’s full of shit, I’ve no doubt more will come out too.


He won’t be going anywhere though the Republicans won’t give him up.

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Four so far. Cohen, Manafort, Flynn, Gates. The list is only going to get longer.

Movie 1,get the popcorn out, enjoy the show.

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

Not a good day for 45 fair play with his lawyer stating he did what he did under direction from DT.

Wonder what Cohen will tell in order to get a lesser sentence.

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It's a plea deal, the prosecution will have told him what to say in a prepared statement.

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

He's already had a wobble, asking me to "clarify which US law(s) he [Trump] has broken stating the relevant clause number(s), the evidence supporting this claim of guilt, and details of any prevous offences". Like I'm the ****ing prosecutor here.

Let's let Mueller do his thing now. In the words of Gluey "things are about to get very interesting in Trumpland" :biggrin:

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Not a wobble, we need to know all the facts. Most people facing a very long stretch in prison would say anything to get away with a lesser sentence. Cohen is a known liar, and the beauty of a plea deal is that the evidence will never get challenged in court.

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Originally Posted by Rogersblue

Movie 1,get the popcorn out, enjoy the show.

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Do you know something that we don't?

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Originally Posted by lardy

Four so far. Cohen, Manafort, Flynn, Gates. The list is only going to get longer.

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It will get longer, but who is going to be on the list? :sherlock:

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Originally Posted by lardy

I don't recall him being quite such a stickler for legal detail with Awan the IT guy, Strzok, Obama, Hillary, Comey, or the dozens of other people he's accused of illegal activity in this thread (I've forgotten most of the conspiracy theories) on the basis of nothing more than flimsy internet gossip.

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There is physical evidence that can be examined in all of these cases.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Do you know something that we don't?

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That'll be telling

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

For his own good before he says something he might regret! His Twitter account has be red hot today, it looks like he is very close to testing out his major theory. Hope you will still be laughing later!

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Yep... I'm still laughing :hehe: :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Rogersblue

Joining the dots, bales

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The important thing to remember is that this whole saga is not about Trump, it's about bad actors using the power of the state to interfere in the democratic process. I don't see how any of this is acceptable, the system is broken and needs to be fixed by any means necessary. People don't realise that next time the shoe could be on the other foot, so they should be careful what they wish for.

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Yep... I'm still laughing :hehe: :biggrin:

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Enjoy it while you can, just remember he who laughs last laughs longest :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Enjoy it while you can, just remember he who laughs last laughs longest :biggrin:

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:hehe:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

The important thing to remember is that this whole saga is not about Trump, it's about bad actors using the power of the state to interfere in the democratic process. I don't see how any of this is acceptable, the system is broken and needs to be fixed by any means necessary. People don't realise that next time the shoe could be on the other foot, so they should be careful what they wish for.

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Truth will win in the end. Hopefully

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Originally Posted by Rogersblue

Truth will win in the end. Hopefully

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Well one person has pleaded guilty to a crime and another found guilty
Both connected to DT.
That’s today’s truth for sure 👍

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

Well one person has pleaded guilty to a crime and another found guilty
Both connected to DT.
That’s today’s truth for sure ��

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What if people connected to Hillary and Obama are found guilty? What if Mueller is exposed for some wrongdoing in his evidence gathering? How were the illegal wiretaps used to collect information? Still lots of variables in play, so it's too soon to call IMO. I'm still waiting for the hammer blow that decides it one way or the other. There is a lot at stake here, and we are going to see desperate measures coming from all directions.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

What if people connected to Hillary and Obama are found guilty? What if Mueller is exposed for some wrongdoing in his evidence gathering? How were the illegal wiretaps used to collect information? Still lots of variables in play, so it's too soon to call IMO.

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Well that’s a lot of what ifs isn’t it?

Where’s the investigations for those things then? Are anyone connected to Hilary and Obama in the dock?

Or is this more wishful thinking on your part?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Anyone who thinks this is the end of the Trump Presidency, remember one thing. He faces prosecution if he leaves the Presidency. He will now never leave the Presidency.</p>&mdash; Armando Iannucci (@Aiannucci) <a href="https://twitter.com/Aiannucci/status/1032249646008225792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I think this is correct, and further to that every action trump does from now on (if it wasn't already the case) will have the sole purpose of keeping him as president. This is not good for the rest of the world.

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

Well that’s a lot of what ifs isn’t it?

Where’s the investigations for those things then? Are anyone connected to Hilary and Obama in the dock?

Or is this more wishful thinking on your part?

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It's more distraction and deflection. Really, put him on ignore. He contributes nothing worthwhile.

Don't know if Donald does humour/irony, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If anyone is looking for a good lawyer, I would strongly suggest that you don’t retain the services of Michael Cohen!</p>&mdash; Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1032247043992023040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

Well that’s a lot of what ifs isn’t it?

Where’s the investigations for those things then? Are anyone connected to Hilary and Obama in the dock?

Or is this more wishful thinking on your part?

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I dunno about you, but I'm waiting for the fat lady to make an appearance. If this was Mueller's best hand (coordinated Manafort & Cohen announcments), I'd be a bit worried about what the other side has got!

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I dunno about you, but I'm waiting for the fat lady to make an appearance. If this was Mueller's best hand (coordinated Manafort & Cohen announcments), I'd be a bit worried about what the other side has got!

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Another "if" :facepalm:

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Originally Posted by lardy

It's more distraction and deflection. Really, put him on ignore. He contributes nothing worthwhile.

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Says the fanatical Trump Russia Collusion Delusion guy!!! :hehe: :biggrin: :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Another "if" :facepalm:

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Has he got anything else?

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Originally Posted by lardy

I think this is correct, and further to that every action trump does from now on (if it wasn't already the case) will have the sole purpose of keeping him as president. This is not good for the rest of the world.

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I actually agree with this, but only if there is no fruit of the poison tree lurking beneath the surface!

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Has he got anything else?

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You'll have to ask him, mate :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

You'll have to ask him, mate :biggrin:

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That's the thing innit, this is a drama to rival all dramas, real or imagined :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

What if people connected to Hillary and Obama are found guilty? What if Mueller is exposed for some wrongdoing in his evidence gathering? How were the illegal wiretaps used to collect information? Still lots of variables in play, so it's too soon to call IMO. I'm still waiting for the hammer blow that decides it one way or the other. There is a lot at stake here, and we are going to see desperate measures coming from all directions.

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There was a n alleged case about election overspend with Obama wasn't there ,but he unknowingly new about it .

And Hilary well ,she's the reason why Trump is in power, she's squeaky clean.

I don't think any of this will stick to Trump .

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I actually agree with this, but only if there is no fruit of the poison tree lurking beneath the surface!

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I wonder if a quick conflict might ease the pressure on Trump ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2Rjl3fNI1I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4soVWTJVyM

No campaign violation according Law Professor and former FEC chairman Bradley Smith in the video above.

http://time.com/5374619/donald-trump...ce-law-crimes/

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

http://time.com/5374619/donald-trump...ce-law-crimes/

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So did Mueller fire his cannon or his pea-shooter? What do you reckon?

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

So did Mueller fire his cannon or his pea-shooter? What do you reckon?

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Nothing sticks,nothing that proves anything was wrongly done,its not unlawful to pay for the silences or allegations of someone in the USA is it ?

It has to be proved I guess that actual election campaign monies were used.

In terms of Russia , why hasn't that be found and exposed yet ,is it actually there ?.