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Finished 1-1, Wales did everything but score in the closing minutes.
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Personally I think Academy football is setting kids up for a fall. Hundreds of kids dreams destroyed to try and get that 1 player every few years.
Anyone who is good enough to make it at likes of Cardiff will just get poached by Cat A when they are 14/15.
I’d do what Brentford do and scrap the academy just pick up youngsters released by Cat A academy’s.
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The game is over now, although it's still available to watch. I don't know any of the players, but I was impressed by how well coached the Welsh players are.
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Wales-Bales
The game is over now, although it's still available to watch. I don't know any of the players, but I was impressed by how well coached the Welsh players are.
There were posts about the game on City Academy and under 21 thread.
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the other bob wilson
There were posts about the game on City Academy and under 21 thread.
Which thread is that?
Am I right in saying that the Welsh coaching staff want all of the teams playing the same way?
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Wales-Bales
Which thread is that?
Am I right in saying that the Welsh coaching staff want all of the teams playing the same way?
https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...and-DVP-thread
I believe so - I thought they were unlucky today.
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J R Hartley
Personally I think Academy football is setting kids up for a fall. Hundreds of kids dreams destroyed to try and get that 1 player every few years.
Anyone who is good enough to make it at likes of Cardiff will just get poached by Cat A when they are 14/15.
I’d do what Brentford do and scrap the academy just pick up youngsters released by Cat A academy’s.
Very interesting take on it, Is our Academy failing? It's not really producing a great deal of quality.
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Tuerto
Very interesting take on it, Is our Academy failing? It's not really producing a great deal of quality.
The problem is the big boys can just come and nick the best ones now. You invest in kids from 7 to 14/15 and the big clubs just come in and turn their heads.
Look at they kid who’s just gone to Man U
I’m also old fashioned I think you should play local and play with your mates til your at least 14
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I seen an advert the other day for trials for Swansea academy up on Merthyrs ground for under 5,6,7
Crackers
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J R Hartley
The problem is the big boys can just come and nick the best ones now. You invest in kids from 7 to 14/15 and the big clubs just come in and turn their heads.
Look at they kid who’s just gone to Man U
I’m also old fashioned I think you should play local and play with your mates til your at least 14
I agree, although i'm an old bastard now! I do believe that from 17 onwards that young professionals should be playing against men, developed professionals, although that would mean bringing back the old reserve leagues, and that isn't going to happen.
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I agree, although i'm an old bastard now! I do believe that from 17 onwards that young professionals should be playing against men, developed professionals, although that would mean bringing back the old reserve leagues, and that isn't going to happen.
Under 23s is a failed experiment
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I blagged my way into the game with my boys, as I told the FAW people that the website said “free ticketless entry”, when apparently it meant “…for invited guests only”. We’d made a special trip over from Bristol to see the match.
Cymru were the superior team with very good spells in possession and plenty of chances and like Bob said, unlucky not to have got more.
Iceland’s equaliser was during the one good spell they had in the match and they had very loud/obnoxious fans!
Gabriel Biancheri (11) only had about a 20 minute cameo this time, but he looked very good again, as did Charlie Crew (6) who was captain and bossed the midfield.
From the current City boys, Ronan Kpakio (13) was a real handful, playing (I think) as a wingback on the left side.
The starting line up also included Cody Twose (20), Dylan Lawlor (5) and Luey Giles (3).
So that’s 4 current and two recently former Cardiff City players in the u17 lineup, which suggests that our academy is not all that bad after all.
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There’s a lad playing for Merthyr who was with Swansea until he was 23 and made 1 sub appearance in cup. Jack Evans. Centre Mod. Absolutely quality I have no doubt he should be playing higher level. But he stayed in a championship academy until 23 and it’s only at the age of 24 he’s actually started playing against men.
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I’m getting to the stage where you question whether Academy’s are worthwhile these days for clubs like City. I reckon that a rule should be brought in whereby a category 1 Academy side looking to offload a player they signed from another club in the manner that Leeds and Manchester United have done to us recently, should have to offer him to his former club at the price they paid for him - if the player wants to go somewhere else, then fair enough, but it would be a step towards bringing a bit of fairness back to the system.
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Under 23s is a failed experiment
I've watched a fair few u23 games and it's almost exhibition stuff, there's a lack of intensity and physicality that is prevalent in the professional game.
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J R Hartley
Personally I think Academy football is setting kids up for a fall. Hundreds of kids dreams destroyed to try and get that 1 player every few years.
Anyone who is good enough to make it at likes of Cardiff will just get poached by Cat A when they are 14/15.
I’d do what Brentford do and scrap the academy just pick up youngsters released by Cat A academy’s.
Not that often that I agree......but what you say is simply common sense.
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J R Hartley
Personally I think Academy football is setting kids up for a fall. Hundreds of kids dreams destroyed to try and get that 1 player every few years.
Anyone who is good enough to make it at likes of Cardiff will just get poached by Cat A when they are 14/15.
I’d do what Brentford do and scrap the academy just pick up youngsters released by Cat A academy’s.
I wouldn't want Cardiff to copy Brentford and a few others and get rid ot the academy altogether, but you couldn't blame them if they did, as with the current rules they're too in favour of the biggest teams.
if more and more teams follow suit then it would have a detrimental effect on the number of players coming through, as there would be fewer players getting coached at the important age groups.
I don't think we can rely on football league fixing this themselves, as the biggest clubs have too much power. I think this needs to come from FIFA, uefa or even national governments.
a step in the right direction would be mandatory sell on % for young players in proportion to the number of years they were coached at a particular club
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Eli King & Rubin Colwill starting for Wales u21s against Scotland. Jake Dennis, Japhet Matondo, Will Spiers, Cole Fleming & Tanatswa Nyakuhwa starting for the u18s
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Eli King & Rubin Colwill starting for Wales u21s against Scotland. Jake Dennis, Japhet Matondo, Will Spiers, Cole Fleming & Tanatswa Nyakuhwa starting for the u18s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR9x-Ty0rlc
u21s Wales 0 - 1 up v Scotland. Great pass from Colwill to set up the goal.
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Half time Wales 2 - 0 up (Josh Farrell and Joe Low). Colwill strutting his stuff. King doing OK. Denham on the bench
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2-0 up at half time, Scottish commentator very impressed with Colwill
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3-0 Wales at full time, complete control against a Scotland side with players at top academies
Colwill came off with 10 minutes to go, Scottish commentator - "thank goodness for that". 2 assists for Colwill today, best player on the pitch
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3-0 Wales at full time, complete control against a Scotland side with players at top academies
Colwill came off with 10 minutes to go, Scottish commentator - "thank goodness for that". 2 assists for Colwill today, best player on the pitch
great to hear
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J R Hartley
There’s a lad playing for Merthyr who was with Swansea until he was 23 and made 1 sub appearance in cup. Jack Evans. Centre Mod. Absolutely quality I have no doubt he should be playing higher level. But he stayed in a championship academy until 23 and it’s only at the age of 24 he’s actually started playing against men.
He lost a season a few years back due to cancer, almost certainly took quite a while to get back to full match fitness.
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Wales u18s drew 2-2 with Scotland. City's Matondo & Nyakuhwa with the goals
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Just finished watching the under 21s match. I must admit that as I listened to the commentators going through all of the top Academy’s the Scottish players were with that I thought Wales might be in for a hiding, but they were three goals better than their opponents and maybe worth one or two more. Gluey asked whether Wales age group sides were all coached the same way yesterday. On this evidence, I’d say yes, they certainly looked like an intelligent, well coached side - Scotland barely laid a glove on them.
As for Colwill, he was easily the most creative player on the pitch, but a critic of his might say that he was barely tested when it came to things like tracking back and tackling - for myself, I was happy to see him enjoying himself and doing the things he is good at, hopefully he’ll take a lot of confidence from it.
The commentators also mentioned thatThe under 21s had beaten what they called Columbia’s youth side 2-0 a few days ago.
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Saw a picture of Joe Low yesterday, obvious who his dad is if you are City fans of a certain age
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Hopefully Colwill has got his Mojo back 😀
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The game which decides whether Wales under 17s make it to the Euro Finals kicks off at 1 o clock today and is being streamed on Sgorio’s You Tube site.
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Wales conceded two goals in a minute just before half time. No more than Wales deserve after a careless and nervy showing - far too careless in possession.
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the other bob wilson
Wales conceded two goals in a minute just before half time. No more than Wales deserve after a careless and nervy showing - far too careless in possession.
Terrible to throw it away like that and to concede goals like that in stoppage time. Far too lax and they've been punished
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Three City players in the team, Dylan Lawlor at centre back, Luey Giles at left back and Troy Perrett in midfield - Giles hit the crossbar with a shot from a free kick and could be said to be Wales’ best hope of a goal up to now.
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Goal back for Wales.
iwan Morgan again
assisted by Charlie Crew
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iwan Morgan again
assisted by Charlie Crew
He’s just missed an absolute sitter - Wales still playing poorly, but the chances are there for them if they don’t let their nerves get the better of them.
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He’s just missed an absolute sitter - Wales still playing poorly, but the chances are there for them if they don’t let their nerves get the better of them.
think they're going through ok goal difference as it stands
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Dylan Lawlor of City equalises inside the last five minutes.
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the other bob wilson
Dylan Lawlor of City equalises inside the last five minutes.
that should mean Wales go through and Scotland hoping to be one of the best placed runners up
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Scotland Iceland finished 0-0
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