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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I've never seen a manager wait 45 mins to change a team that are playing that bad. We got out of jail here.
Bollocks
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
He's a box to box ball winner
Joe Allen wouldn't have held back the USA like ampadu did
Allen would have kept the ball. Allen and Ampadu give a platform to play from. Moore has to play now.
Bale was dire tonight and then came good. Rodon was god awful. I’m not sure if Rambo and Bale can play in the same side now.
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I've never seen a manager wait 45 mins to change a team that are playing that bad. We got out of jail here.
You are right . Substitutions after 25 minutes are 10 a penny. :thumbup:
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I've never seen a manager wait 45 mins to change a team that are playing that bad.
Bollocks.
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Pedro de la Rosa
Allen would have kept the ball. Allen and Ampadu give a platform to play from. Moore has to play now.
Bale was dire tonight and then came good. Rodon was god awful. I’m not sure if Rambo and Bale can play in the same side now.
I think Allen and ampadu would be great but Allen's not fit
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I've never seen a manager wait 45 mins to change a team that are playing that bad. We got out of jail here.
We did
But we know now that Moore upfront is better suited to the players we have
So it's onwards 🙂
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
At international level Ramsey's well past his sell by date. I just wonder if his 'status' prevents the journeyman manager from dropping him.
Yep. I cannot see Page dropping him. In the first half their players just went straight past him. He also lost the ball often as did Bale.
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Pedro de la Rosa
Allen would have kept the ball. Allen and Ampadu give a platform to play from. Moore has to play now.
It worked because we put pressure on their centre backs when Moore came on. We never troubled them once in the first half, and going down the wings was a dead-end tactic. I thought we could get the better of the USA if we went through the middle with pace, but playing Moore centrally also worked. The first half was puzzling cos we kept on doing the same things that didn't work.
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I think Allen and ampadu would be great but Allen's not fit
I don't think we will fully solve the midfield problem until the next batch of youngsters come through.
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
Wrong starting line-up, wrong shape. Page must be big enough to admit the fact that we didn't win was down to him.
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Pearcey3
Yep. I cannot see Page dropping him. In the first half their players just went straight past him. He also lost the ball often as did Bale.
Losing the ball 1st half wasnt exclusive to them. They were all losing it. Nobody passed it well 1st half.
Ramseys movement gets us the penalty.
Has to play v an awful Iran side as does Bale.
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
You are right . Substitutions after 25 minutes are 10 a penny. :thumbup:
I've seen substitutes substituted in the first half!
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I've seen substitutes substituted in the first half!
But you've never seen a manager change it in the first half when playing as badly as we did tonight.
If Page changed his mind as often as you we'd have won.
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I don't think we will fully solve the midfield problem until the next batch of youngsters come through.
Think you're right there. Our best midfielders of recent times are aging, have lost their spark and in some cases are now a hindrance to the team. And yet....it was Ramsey who put that clever little ball in to Bale who used all his know how to win the penalty and dispatch it. As frustrating as it is to watch previously top class performers losing or giving the ball away time after time, they can make a difference during the game and that's why we now have our first point on the board. We really have no other viable options until, as you said, the next batch of youngsters come through.
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
What did he achieve- one header over the bar !
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
sneggyblubird
Wrong starting line-up, wrong shape. Page must be big enough to admit the fact that we didn't win was down to him.
Page fixed it. He made a mistake. We are at the end of a cycle. Ramsey, Allen and Bale are nearly done, we are nearly at a pretty major rebuild. In the first half we had 3 passengers. I’d have brought Moore on earlier but we got out of jail.
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Ivortheengine
What did he achieve- one header over the bar !
If that’s all you saw…..
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I think Allen and ampadu would be great but Allen's not fit
Yes, but you said Allen wouldn’t have held back USA. We wouldn’t have given the ball away as much as we did had Allen played. His lack of football is going to be a concern now
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Harry Paget Flashman
But you've never seen a manager change it in the first half when playing as badly as we did tonight.
If Page changed his mind as often as you we'd have won.
I said I've never seen a manager wait 45 mins to change a team that are playing that bad.
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Moodybluebird
Think you're right there. Our best midfielders of recent times are aging, have lost their spark and in some cases are now a hindrance to the team. And yet....it was Ramsey who put that clever little ball in to Bale who used all his know how to win the penalty and dispatch it. As frustrating as it is to watch previously top class performers losing or giving the ball away time after time, they can make a difference during the game and that's why we now have our first point on the board. We really have no other viable options until, as you said, the next batch of youngsters come through.
That's why I keep going on about getting them in the squad instead of picking Jonniesta & Gunter every game. It's pointless :biggrin:
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Pedro de la Rosa
Yes, but you said Allen wouldn’t have held back USA. We wouldn’t have given the ball away as much as we did had Allen played. His lack of football is going to be a concern now
One option is to play Morrell next to Ampadu if he is fit for the next game. If he's injured we are in a pickle.
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I said I've never seen a manager wait 45 mins to change a team that are playing that bad.
My bad I've had a few.
I still don't believe you on your first point though.
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
At international level Ramsey's well past his sell by date. I just wonder if his 'status' prevents the journeyman manager from dropping him.
What utter shite !!
He’s still a class act and a game changer
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
What utter shite !!
He’s still a class act and a game changer
He's better playing as a 10 though.
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Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread
After the anger of how bad we were in the first half and the stress of the second half, I think it just hit me that I just saw Wales at a World Cup, never mind taking a point off a country 10x the size and with probably more than that again in terms of money and resources. I didn't get as emotional as I thought I would at either of the Euros even being there in person in France, but this one has hit different tonight.