FT: DERBY COUNTY 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

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Originally Posted by bluemoon

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as another poster said its not just a bogus manager, those players need a long hard look at themselves

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I think a lot of the players gave up playing for Bulut towards the end of last season

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Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68

I think a lot of the players gave up playing for Bulut towards the end of last season

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Then they should play for themselves, their family and the supporters. Some of them aren't turning up in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Well said (about the players) Bulut shouldn't be anywhere near it, that's obvious, but the players need to answer some questions as well. When did they get exonerated from responsibility. Some of them are cowards.

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John Percy (Telegraph journalist) tweeting that the club are discussing Bulut's future tonight?

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Then they should play for themselves, their family and the supporters. Some of them aren't turning up in my opinion.

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You're dead right there. Too many going awol and even today, we could have done something. They mentioned in the commentary a lack of urgency. Bulut can take a bunch of them with him when he goes.

Apart from ending the game well against Swansea that's been it really this season

There doesn't seem to be any movement forward now so it's time for action in terms of removing bulut

It's no good moaning about tan and the rest of the set up , he's here until someone takes over

So we have to hope we get a decent replacement

We have some useful players in the squad but it appears they just ain't performing so it's time for a change

Onwards

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Originally Posted by Eddie Johnson

I think I would happily accept Steve Morison back over Erol.

WoL headline tomorrow, Bulut Fired! (I hope)

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You have gone too far now…….. ;-)

Even if our board appoint a decent manager it's going to be difficult to keep this group of players up.

However he has to go.

What's the lowest points total a club has accrued at this level.?

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Originally Posted by Hilts

Even if our board appoint a decent manager it's going to be difficult to keep this group of players up.

However he has to go.

What's the lowest points total a club has accrued at this level.?

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I don't think the team is as bad as people think

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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

You're dead right there. Too many going awol and even today, we could have done something. The mentioned in the commentary a lack of urgency. Bulut can take a bunch of them with him when he goes.

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**** Bulut, there are things that have nothing to do with him. This lot are piss weak, no character. The players can show that they have some bottle even under a piss poor manager. Fans seem to just let them off the hook. We were never like this as a fan base, we battered players who were genuinely shit, players who couldn't control the ball and who were on nothing in terms of salary.

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Originally Posted by Former Labour leader

Being reported in Midlands that board considering Bulut's future.
We can only hope.

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Omar Rizais talking to the media after the game, does that signify anything or is Bulut just trying to make out this latest defeat was nothing to do with him?

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I don't think the team is as bad as people think

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I think the team and Bulut are a disgrace at the moment. There are players out there wearing the shirt who should have it ripped off them and given to some of the younger players. There are journeymen in that squad. We can stay up but if the board don't have a decent replacement i.e. someone who can change the whole psychology like Cooper did at Forest then we're f*cked.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Omar Rizais talking to the media after the game, does that signify anything or is Bulut just trying to make out this latest defeat was nothing to do with him?

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Probably something to do with Bulut's one match ban

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

**** Bulut, there are things that have nothing to do with him. This lot are piss weak, no character. The players can show that they have some bottle even under a piss poor manager. Fans seem to just let them off the hook. We were never like this as a fan base, we battered players who were genuinely shit, players who couldn't control the ball and who were on nothing in terms of salary.

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I know it might be a minor thing but our fans applauding ex players p*sses me off too. Like NML today. I was p*ssed off at the reception Warnock had mind when his 'borough side beat us.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Then they should play for themselves, their family and the supporters. Some of them aren't turning up in my opinion.

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The players gave their verdict on Bulut at Rotherham.

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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

I think the team and Bulut are a disgrace at the moment. There are players out there wearing the shirt who should have it ripped off them and given to some of the younger players. There are journeymen in that squad. We can stay up but if the board don't have a decent replacement i.e. someone who can change the whole psychology like Cooper did at Forest then we're f*cked.

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I think bulut has shot his bolt

The players are a combination of not being up to it , not being played in the right system and in need of a new manager to knock them into shape

Either way it's time for a change

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I don't think the team is as bad as people think

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If that's the case, then Bulut is completely out of his depth.

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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

I know it might be a minor thing but our fans applauding ex players p*sses me off too. Like NML today. I was p*ssed off at the reception Warnock had mind when his 'borough side beat us.

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Sycophantic tendencies. Easily pleased.

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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

I think the team and Bulut are a disgrace at the moment. There are players out there wearing the shirt who should have it ripped off them and given to some of the younger players. There are journeymen in that squad. We can stay up but if the board don't have a decent replacement i.e. someone who can change the whole psychology like Cooper did at Forest then we're f*cked.

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Colwill was largely anonymous. Ashford contributed nothing when he came on. It's not simply a question of bringing the younger players in- we have no effective system of play and the players look lost.

‘Erol Bulut, we want you to stay.’

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

If that's the case, then Bulut is completely out of his depth.

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He is but we are a relegation squad as well.

We've made some bad signings.

When Bulut eventually goes to have any sort of chance to beat the drop we need some quality free agents. This seasons equivalent of Sol Bamba and Junior Hoillet.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

‘Erol Bulut, we want you to stay.’

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This club has too many fans who lack foresight and the rest of us have to suffer the consequences.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

He is but we are a relegation squad as well.

We've made some bad signings.

When Bulut eventually goes to have any sort of chance to beat the drop we need some quality free agents. This seasons equivalent of Sol Bamba and Junior Hoillet.

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No, we don't. The squad is more than good enough to stay up. Just needs a manager who knows what he's doing.

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Originally Posted by D. Advocaat

Colwill was largely anonymous. Ashford contributed nothing when he came on. It's not simply a question of bringing the younger players in- we have no effective system of play and the players look lost.

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Of course it isn't. That's not what I said though. I said there are players who need the shirt ripping off them and giving it to younger players. I'm not one of those who thinks we just play the youngsters en masse because there is a balance to be had. I agree with you about an effective system. In fact. I don't see a system so having one would be a start. Yes, the players look lost. It's a mess. But there are paid professionals out there who should be doing more than they are.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

‘Erol Bulut, we want you to stay.’

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Baffling. And probably had a bearing on Tan's decision to keep Bulut.

Mind you, a significant proportion of our away support join in with that repulsive YJB chant- their judgement is not worth anything.