Henry Nowak

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Originally Posted by Feedback

the irony is that the cornerstone of our legal system is that its better to let 10 guilty men go free than punish one innocent, yet despite this, some who think the only way is the British way want all immigrants banned because of a few bad apples. That's as un-British as can be.

I'll ponder the logic tonight and contemplate just how useless immigrants are and how they contribute nothing to our culture after I've been out for a curry and caught a tax home, driven by some Eastern European. Immigrants, we don't need them :facepalm:

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Can you imagine how society would look without immigrants? Their influence is everywhere, and even the most hard line rabid racist would have benefited from immigrants, whether they like it or not. Imagine what music would look like with the influence of immigrants, Food, Architecture, so many things that bring us comfort and enjoyment, so many things that help create identity, whether we understand it or not.

I can walk to city road from my house and eat food from loads of different countries, listen to different languages, different expressions, customs etc, it's a true education and it enriches us as a society. Of course immigration has to be monitored, but to think that there are people in our society who see immigrants as a threat, see them as a dilution of 'British' culture is truly sad in my opinion. We don't evolve by being closed or by constantly listening and agreeing with people who look and sound just like we do.

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Originally Posted by Feedback

the stabbings in plant hill....Blackley isn't the most salubrious. I used to live in Jurby Ave, which was once described by the MEN as a ghetto. it wasn't wrong. its just your usual rough area and this isn't anything to do with this thread.

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It's all perfectly normal 👍

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

It's all perfectly normal ��

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it is in Blackley :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

Problems in Manchester as well, all perfectly normal, no different to back in the day I've been lectured by the, it's all perfectly normal CCMB gang.

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I disagree with you. Anecdotal of course, but i grew up in Ely, Pentwyn and Llanedeyrn, all rough council estates. I can remember plenty of occasions where i was set upon by gangs of kids from other estates, made to fight other kids, couldn't go to certain areas because i attended the catholic school, couldn't go to the Maelfa shopping centre arcade because i would get beaten up, couldn't use the chip shop or the pool club (Boxers Billy Waith) because of gangs of kids who would steal your money. I had two Adidas tops taken from me in town in broad daylight. Ended up fighting on bank holiday at Barry Island, and as you will know better than most, had to run the gauntlet just to watch a football match. Open violence was much more prevalent and accepted during the 70s and 80s. Look at popular culture from that time, it was all about misogyny and violence.

I believe that it's much safer on the streets these days. We do have extreme situations of violence, but to me, they don't seem as random as they were thirty years ago. i don't feel threatened at all in our city, not like i did in the eighties and part of the nineties. Even going into the city centre for a night out back then was dangerous at times. I'm not attempting to soften things, and if you do believe it's worse now, then why do you thing it's worse, because this shit doesn't happen by itself.

There's a narrative now that wants to inflate violent attacks with Brown people by some (i'm not accusing you of that) There could be ten violent incidents by a white man and one by a brown man, maybe not born in this country. You know the one that we'll all be hearing about more than the others, and i believe that it's pushed for a reason. People look back with nostalgia, some things were good, but plenty of it was ****ing awful as well.

The implication this is a specific problem with migrants is a cherry-picked one. The statistical outlier and disproportionate crime rates are young men, irrespective of race. Women, children and older men are rarely if ever involved in violent crime like this. And I'm not saying we should chastise or blame young men as a whole, but this has always been the leaning of these crimes. But the right never want to have this discussion, they sincerely believe a nurturing Muslim mother is more of a threat than a neo-fascist from a Millwall firm with plans to personally attack and persecute minorities.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I disagree with you. Anecdotal of course, but i grew up in Ely, Pentwyn and Llanedeyrn, all rough council estates. I can remember plenty of occasions where i was set upon by gangs of kids from other estates, made to fight other kids, couldn't go to certain areas because i attended the catholic school, couldn't go to the Maelfa shopping centre arcade because i would get beaten up, couldn't use the chip shop or the pool club (Boxers Billy Waith) because of gangs of kids who would steal your money. I had two Adidas tops taken from me in town in broad daylight. Ended up fighting on bank holiday at Barry Island, and as you will know better than most, had to run the gauntlet just to watch a football match. Open violence was much more prevalent and accepted during the 70s and 80s. Look at popular culture from that time, it was all about misogyny and violence.

I believe that it's much safer on the streets these days. We do have extreme situations of violence, but to me, they don't seem as random as they were thirty years ago. i don't feel threatened at all in our city, not like i did in the eighties and part of the nineties. Even going into the city centre for a night out back then was dangerous at times. I'm not attempting to soften things, and if you do believe it's worse now, then why do you thing it's worse, because this shit doesn't happen by itself.

There's a narrative now that wants to inflate violent attacks with Brown people by some (i'm not accusing you of that) There could be ten violent incidents by a white man and one by a brown man, maybe not born in this country. You know the one that we'll all be hearing about more than the others, and i believe that it's pushed for a reason. People look back with nostalgia, some things were good, but plenty of it was ****ing awful as well.

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How do you know big words like Anecdotal if you grew up in Ely, Pentwyn and Llanedeyrn? Only TBG knows complicated stuff like that!

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I disagree with you. Anecdotal of course, but i grew up in Ely, Pentwyn and Llanedeyrn, all rough council estates. I can remember plenty of occasions where i was set upon by gangs of kids from other estates, made to fight other kids, couldn't go to certain areas because i attended the catholic school, couldn't go to the Maelfa shopping centre arcade because i would get beaten up, couldn't use the chip shop or the pool club (Boxers Billy Waith) because of gangs of kids who would steal your money. I had two Adidas tops taken from me in town in broad daylight. Ended up fighting on bank holiday at Barry Island, and as you will know better than most, had to run the gauntlet just to watch a football match. Open violence was much more prevalent and accepted during the 70s and 80s. Look at popular culture from that time, it was all about misogyny and violence.

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Thinly veiled "I was a chopsy twat as a kid" post imho

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Originally Posted by Feedback

Thinly veiled "I was a chopsy twat as a kid" post imho

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Pretty much :hehe: I don't know how old you are, but there was a period in the 80s when 'Taxing' was a thing. Basically, if you had a bit of decent clobber on, there was a chance someone would steal it from you, with the threat of violence, and it was Docks boys generally. I got done twice, once by the old ice rink and at the top of wyndham arcade. The only saving grace for me was that when i was 15, i was the size of a ten year old, so the bastards that robbed me wouldn't get it over their head!

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

How do you know big words like Anecdotal if you grew up in Ely, Pentwyn and Llanedeyrn? Only TBG knows complicated stuff like that!

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I know a few big words, although i can't punctuate, my Grammar is shit and what i write has no structure. I will be using more big words in the future.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I disagree with you. Anecdotal of course, but i grew up in Ely, Pentwyn and Llanedeyrn, all rough council estates. I can remember plenty of occasions where i was set upon by gangs of kids from other estates, made to fight other kids, couldn't go to certain areas because i attended the catholic school, couldn't go to the Maelfa shopping centre arcade because i would get beaten up, couldn't use the chip shop or the pool club (Boxers Billy Waith) because of gangs of kids who would steal your money. I had two Adidas tops taken from me in town in broad daylight. Ended up fighting on bank holiday at Barry Island, and as you will know better than most, had to run the gauntlet just to watch a football match. Open violence was much more prevalent and accepted during the 70s and 80s. Look at popular culture from that time, it was all about misogyny and violence.

I believe that it's much safer on the streets these days. We do have extreme situations of violence, but to me, they don't seem as random as they were thirty years ago. i don't feel threatened at all in our city, not like i did in the eighties and part of the nineties. Even going into the city centre for a night out back then was dangerous at times. I'm not attempting to soften things, and if you do believe it's worse now, then why do you thing it's worse, because this shit doesn't happen by itself.

There's a narrative now that wants to inflate violent attacks with Brown people by some (i'm not accusing you of that) There could be ten violent incidents by a white man and one by a brown man, maybe not born in this country. You know the one that we'll all be hearing about more than the others, and i believe that it's pushed for a reason. People look back with nostalgia, some things were good, but plenty of it was ****ing awful as well.

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I am absolutely accusing heathblue of inflating violent attacks with brown people as thats absolutely what his contributions on here have been doing

Hes bang to rights

Say it as it is

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Pretty much :hehe: I don't know how old you are, but there was a period in the 80s when 'Taxing' was a thing. Basically, if you had a bit of decent clobber on, there was a chance someone would steal it from you, with the threat of violence, and it was Docks boys generally. I got done twice, once by the old ice rink and at the top of wyndham arcade. The only saving grace for me was that when i was 15, i was the size of a ten year old, so the bastards that robbed me wouldn't get it over their head!

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I remember taxing. I was from the more affluent Canton so it wasn't a thing we had to suffer :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Feedback

I remember taxing. I was from the more affluent Canton so it wasn't a thing we had to suffer :biggrin:

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Thinly veiled "My mother bought all my clothes in Peacocks" :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Thinly veiled "My mother bought all my clothes in Peacocks" :hehe:

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You're on a roll :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

You're on a roll :biggrin:

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I've always been a chopsy twat :thumbup: