FT: SHEFFIELD UTD 4 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Get it organised, then. Set it up. Publicise it. Contact the press. Take the initiative. It’s not difficult, although what scarves you’d use I don’t know. But if you feel strongly about the situation, do something. Don’t just criticise others for doing nothing when you’re doing nothing yourself.

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No. I'll get involved if there is appetite for it.

There seems very little, especially here.
You can't organise a protest with people that don't feel there is an issue with the board. It is just the way it is.

Thought we looked good for 60 minutes against a decent side .

Didn't deserve 4-1 . Worse game McGuinness has had ??? ( sadly as he half decent )

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Thought we looked good for 60 minutes against a decent side .

Didn't deserve 4-1 . Worse game McGuinness has had ??? ( sadly as he half decent )

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It wasn't a total disaster and looked well in it at times.

Sadly, at this level a few mistakes and it is game over.
That was what happened and we got what most of us felt we would so not disastrous.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Thought we looked good for 60 minutes against a decent side .

Didn't deserve 4-1 . Worse game McGuinness has had ??? ( sadly as he half decent )

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Yeah agree, such a shame such stupid mistakes, one of Ralls or Wickhams efforts going in and it could have been a different game. All ifs and buts but frustrating finish to just throw it away.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Could write an essay on that game on the way home but in short, we can’t defend, we can’t score and Allsop is the worst keeper we’ve had since Turnbull. McG and Allsop were poor and Ng was miles off it, again. Wickham and Kaba doesn’t work and why O’Dowda came on to play CB God knows.

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And that's all the good news.

I can understand the feelings of dejection. We were sloppy at crucial moments and paid for it.
Sheffield United weren't particularly clinical, they were just above average for long stretches of the game.

There were times when we really looked threatening, and for the most part, the home crowd were kept silent.

As stated earlier in this thread - that Wickham effort is a few inches lower...

Edit: Ralls' effort too

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

Quite.

But apparently he was great according to some.

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It was Clemo who bought the airplane I believe.

Still haven't said why you think Grogan was so awful??

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

Nothing. We've established this.

I suggested a silent protest. It was shot down as the wrong time for it. It is what it is.

We as a fanbase are doing nothing.

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We've established you're doing bugger all.

But I thought you were suggesting there are people on 'the other board' (which one) showing the way?

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues

It was Clemo who bought the airplane I believe.

Still haven't said why you think Grogan was so awful??

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Was it really?
Okay, my bad. I thought it was Grogan.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

No. I'll get involved if there is appetite for it.

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The truth is you might as well be a cheerleader for Vinny and his mob for all the difference you make, which is zero. Perhaps you should bear that in mind while you’re moaning about the inaction of others.

I was impressed with the first 45 minutes. I'm going to be positive for a change and say we will make up for today's match and the Swansea and Sunderland results by beating both Rotherham and Huddersfield. I'm tipping at least a draw midweek at Watford.

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

I can understand the feelings of dejection. We were sloppy at crucial moments and paid for it.
Sheffield United weren't particularly clinical, they were just above average for long stretches of the game.

There were times when we really looked threatening, and for the most part, the home crowd were kept silent.

As stated earlier in this thread - that Wickham effort is a few inches lower...

Edit: Ralls' effort too

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We had a go. All is not lost yet and we fight on.💪

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

The truth is you might as well be a cheerleader for Vinny and his mob for all the difference you make, which is zero. Perhaps you should bear that in mind while you’re moaning about the inaction of others.

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Yeah. Think I'll buy a big red coat.

Have a good one.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

We've established you're doing bugger all.

But I thought you were suggesting there are people on 'the other board' (which one) showing the way?

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The Other Board seem to have more who acknowledge that we're only going one way under this lot.

I genuinely think we'll end up worse than when Hammam was here. Accumulating debt from other places other than Tan could see us in a much worse position but I'll watch from the outside and go back to simply reading the forum.

How do you get a profile deleted? Is it only mods or Mike that can do it?
Emotions will get very high in the coming weeks. If I can't post then all the better, for me and the threads.

People will see the light one day though. Maybe in League 1, maybe League 2. It also could be too late.
I'll take no joy in the club going to absolute ruin.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

The Other Board seem to have more who acknowledge that we're only going one way under this lot.

I genuinely think we'll end up worse than when Hammam was here. Accumulating debt from other places other than Tan could see us in a much worse position but I'll watch from the outside and go back to simply reading the forum.

How do you get a profile deleted? Is it only mods or Mike that can do it?
Emotions will get very high in the coming weeks. If I can't post then all the better, for me and the threads.

People will see the light one day though. Maybe in League 1, maybe League 2. It also could be too late.
I'll take no joy in the club going to absolute ruin.

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Just log out. Dont post and post on the other site which youve obviously already done but claimed it was someone else copying your posts.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

Just log out. Dont post and post on the other site which youve obviously already done but claimed it was someone else copying your posts.

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No. I'll log back in when I see somebody trashing the manager or whatever.

I might sign up on the other side. I might not.
I genuinely have not posted on the other board.
My posts were copied by several user names over there

Think I'll stick to watching games and grumbling in the pub after over a pint.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

No. I'll log back in when I see somebody trashing the manager or whatever.

I might sign up on the other side. I might not.
I genuinely have not posted on the other board.
My posts were copied by several user names over there

Think I'll stick to watching games and grumbling in the pub after over a pint.

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Your just incapable though of debating tactics , team selection ets though. Any time there are any debates about tactics etc you just go off on one about Tan. Its so feckin boring.

Then you are blaming the "Tan apologists" for conributing to the clubs downfall.

This was a thread about todays match and youve again turned it around to Tan.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

Your just incapable though of debating tactics , team selection ets though. Any time there are any debates about tactics etc you just go off on one about Tan. Its so feckin boring.

Then you are blaming the "Tan apologists" for conributing to the clubs downfall.

This was a thread about todays match and youve again turned it around to Tan.

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I can debate tactics and the like.

I just can't see past the ownership for having created the current situation and it taints almost every thread I get involved in. If the mods or Mike could delete the profile asap please that would be appreciated.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

:hehe:

Yeah Lamouchi picked himself didn't he.
He also messed about with an experiment of putting two managers with zero experience in actually managing for large chunks of the season too.

I blame the decision makers at the club, yes.
Vincent Tan says he will leave the club in a better position than when he came in. How do you suggest he does that if he thinks the way to achieve that is to spend ever decreasing amounts on absolutely awful players, putting us into an embargo and picking any manager that the manager wheel of fortune falls on in the boardroom?
He will leave us high and dry in League 2 the way things are going.

We are in a tailspin and people think we might challenge in League 1 if we go down. Don't make me laugh. Let's blame the latest manager that our incompetent board have picked though.

I hope the Tan apologists can look themselves in the mirror when he leaves us with a shell of what this club once was.

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Cardiff City is a Championship club being run on a part-time basis - the one major owner/shareholder doesn't attend games, rarely comments, and Dalman & Choo are mainly concerned with their other business interests. Next year will be the same, as will the season after, and so on. If ever a club was in limbo, it's this one.

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues

It was Clemo who bought the airplane I believe.

Still haven't said why you think Grogan was so awful??

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It is pretty simple.

Look at the our league positions from 77 to 83. Fighting relegation in all bar two, one of which we got relegated.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

The Other Board seem to have more who acknowledge that we're only going one way under this lot.

I genuinely think we'll end up worse than when Hammam was here. Accumulating debt from other places other than Tan could see us in a much worse position but I'll watch from the outside and go back to simply reading the forum.

How do you get a profile deleted? Is it only mods or Mike that can do it?
Emotions will get very high in the coming weeks. If I can't post then all the better, for me and the threads.

People will see the light one day though. Maybe in League 1, maybe League 2. It also could be too late.
I'll take no joy in the club going to absolute ruin.

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That other board looks as if it’s winding down , most of the posts are from Wales Online , used to be fairly busy and informative

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Cardiff City is a Championship club being run on a part-time basis - the one major owner/shareholder doesn't attend games, rarely comments, and Dalman & Choo are mainly concerned with their other business interests. Next year will be the same, as will the season after, and so on. If ever a club was in limbo, it's this one.

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This sums us up , it feels like we’re in limbo. There’s many many fans that would like to see Tan replaced, you’re not alone in thinking that Blue lewj , but having supported through the 70s/ 80s / 90s there becomes a worry that we could end in a worse financial mess. I would love Tan to be replaced by a billionaire who wants only the best for the club but there are not many of them around!

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

That other board looks as if it’s winding down , most of the posts are from Wales Online , used to be fairly busy and informative

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I did notice that tbh.

Think a break from posting might do me good.

Is there any way other than through the mods you can get rid of the profile?

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Originally Posted by Don Corleone

This sums us up , it feels like we’re in limbo. There’s many many fans that would like to see Tan replaced, you’re not alone in thinking that Blue lewj , but having supported through the 70s/ 80s / 90s there becomes a worry that we could end in a worse financial mess. I would love Tan to be replaced by a billionaire who wants only the best for the club but there are not many of them around!

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Oh it is very much between a rock and a hard place.

I just think even an owner with less cash trying their best to run the club as financially sensibly as they can, whatever that looks like, would be better than a bloke who has clearly just lost interest and enthusiasm for the club.

I've said it many times but these bad decision don't suddenly stop once we're relegated. A bad footballing decision has almost the same impact whatever league you're in.

I think this board will be a bad board at League 1 level, even at League 2 level. The worst part for me is failing to acknowledge mistakes and the need for change.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

I did notice that tbh.

Think a break from posting might do me good.

Is there any way other than through the mods you can get rid of the profile?

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I can stop you from posting - you can still be logged in, view and send pm's. But not post

Or I can ban the username so you can't log in. Maybe for a few days so you can take a break

We played so well for so long only to be let down by McGuiness and Alsopp again!

It's so frustrating, I would drop them both and take a chance on Alnwick, although he's not great either, we might have to suffer him till the end of the season!

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Originally Posted by Michael Morris

I can stop you from posting - you can still be logged in, view and send pm's. But not post

Or I can ban the username so you can't log in. Maybe for a few days so you can take a break

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Ban it if you could please Mike.
If I want to come back I'll create another account.

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

We played so well for so long only to be let down by McGuiness and Alsopp again!

It's so frustrating, I would drop them both and take a chance on Alnwick, although he's not great either, we might have to suffer him till the end of the season!

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McGuinness had a mare today but I wouldnt drop him though.

Who do you suggest plays instead anyway.?

Allsop I agree. Can Alnwick be any worse?

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Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927

Last two games have convinced me we’re going down

Not due to lack of desire but because we can’t play football

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Thankfully we are better than QPR, we played well today, but McGuiness and Alsopp had another nightmare, we were giving the second-best team in the league a real game at their place, and bad mistakes and a little bit of bad luck cost us, we had more shots than them, the scoreline does not reflect the game in the slightest.

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Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927

Last two games have convinced me we’re going down

Not due to lack of desire but because we can’t play football

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I understand where you are coming from, totally. We seem to get some shit luck as well. Didn't deserve the scoreline today.

I've always through we will stay up and I'm sticking with it 💪

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Originally Posted by Hilts

McGuinness had a mare today but I wouldnt drop him though.

Who do you suggest plays instead anyway.?

Allsop I agree. Can Alnwick be any worse?

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NG and Kipre are fairly solid, but NG is good playing well wide too, but we may have to get them both back in the centre, maybe with McGuiness as a spare man.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Thankfully we are better than QPR, we played well today, but McGuiness and Alsopp had another nightmare, we were giving the second-best team in the league a real game at their place, and bad mistakes and a little bit of bad luck cost us, we had more shots than them, the scoreline does not reflect the game in the slightest.

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We played as well as this group of players can do with the standard of coaching we have and were unlucky maybe that the scoreline was so harsh.

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

We got a load of players who think the game only lasts 60 minutes

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They usually don't start in the first half either...make your mind up.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

Im not convinced about Lamouchi tactically at all.

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Got me wondering today.

Simple swap was to take Simpson off, move Ng into a CB role and bring Romeo on to cover Ng's place at RWB.

Ng has played CB all season makes sense.

Romeo is a RWB makes sense.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Got me wondering today.

Simple swap was to take Simpson off, move Ng into a CB role and bring Romeo on to cover Ng's place at RWB.

Ng has played CB all season makes sense.

Romeo is a RWB makes sense.

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Ng McGuinness Kipre definitely need to be the 3. Ideally O Dowda LWB. If not Philo then Romeo at RWB.

Sadly theres no perfect answer because the squad is so weak but Lamouchi needs to get the best of what we've got.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

I did notice that tbh.

Think a break from posting might do me good.

Is there any way other than through the mods you can get rid of the profile?

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A break from your posting would do a lot of people good.

:ayatollah:

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Originally Posted by rich munn

A break from your posting would do a lot of people good.

:ayatollah:

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Nice one.

Plenty will be anti Tan and board soon enough if they don't get out of the club.

You'll see.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

Who with?

People don't seem upset enough to protest do they.

I'd be on my own it seems. I am astonished that people aren't more fed up with our ownership and board.

Get me on ignore if it bores you.
I will actually be posting a bit less if possible as it is achieving very little on here. People don't have appetite for even a silent protest with scarves. You can't organise anything with people who seem fine with the owner.

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Don't accept defeat before you've been attempted.

Start a Facebook page. Give it unti last game of the season to gain a bit of traction. Post a few painful paragraphs like you do on here I'm sure you'll gee a few up into attending.

But at least try, before you throw the towel in.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Got me wondering today.

Simple swap was to take Simpson off, move Ng into a CB role and bring Romeo on to cover Ng's place at RWB.

Ng has played CB all season makes sense.

Romeo is a RWB makes sense.

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Quite. This is / was the logical move that pretty much everyone commented on after HT.

Just strange…..

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Originally Posted by Hilts

Ng McGuinness Kipre definitely need to be the 3. Ideally O Dowda LWB. If not Philo then Romeo at RWB.

Sadly theres no perfect answer because the squad is so weak but Lamouchi needs to get the best of what we've got.

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Ng was poor today, and not for the first time. He's one of the most overrated players we've had in a long time. That said, putting COD at centre back was bizarre. Romeo was on the bench as well. Just mental.