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Collective suicide is a synonym for general madness, mutual demise, corporate death, mass sacrifice, etc., and economic suicide is a part of that too, but there will be a lot more to it besides economic failure and we will be looking at a dystopian future for those who we leave behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
It won't be economic suicide, we can lead the world in new tech and move away from petrol and gas. We can be leadersQuote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
They've been ditching the dollar for how long now? Also, China are adopting renewables all the time. China are massively into renewables and EV's. Technology is going to solve this problem and it won't be mass economic suicide. You talk about dystopian futures....that's what's in store if we don't start living a more sustainable and responsible existence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
China are not currently in the process of destroying their own economy, neither are India, etc. However, China has adopted digital control measures to ensure that their population has a right way of thinking, which will also be coming here, so we are facing a double whammy of economic demise and freedom of speech restrictions.Quote:
Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927
Can we ?Quote:
Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927
Hope your right but where i,m standing the BRICs countries are going from strength to strength and from what i,m reading are accelerating there growth using lots of coal and gas
India is going to be the next powerhouse Yes another BRICS country
Four countries - ���� China, ���� India, the ���� US and ���� Indonesia - are set to contribute more than half of the world's economic growth over the next five years, according to IMF forecasts
Mate, you are reading the wrong news sources, and you are going to be sent to a re-education camp one of these days :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
Ninian opinion, Just to set the record straight, I 100 % believe that the planet is subject to climate change, however, Anthropogenic climate change IMO, is nothing more than a lock step of government backed and funded scientists claiming the same thing, just in the way the government backed and funded scientists went all in with convid 19, and just like convid 19 any other independent equally qualified scientist who dared to offer an alternative view is cancelled, slandered and if possible has their credentials removed and are refused a debate on the topic, the scientists behind the Barrington declaration being the prime example, possibly the world leading virologist Geert van den Bosshe has been very eloquent with his opinion that to vaccinate your way out of a pandemic is quite simply horse shit, the interview I watched of him on the Highwire was unlike anything I heard at the time and since, he may well have been incorrect but the red flag was his opinion was ignored. I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it, I’ve been told too may times in my lifetime about the impending apocalypse because of anthropogenic climate change in some sort or another, that I have children and grand children I’m all in for a cleaner and better environment but!!! To be told by these lying charlatans again that we must have net zero by insert year then just **** em, everything is about taking off John Doe!!! and taxing us to fk and back to achieve their solution and doing everything themselves in abundance the things that they would like to remove from us, where possible I do a bit to reduce my pollution and that’s fine, instead of jumping into my Jam Jar in the morning getting warm and protected from the elements, I’ll get up 45 mins earlier than I need to, and suffer Transport Wales by using the choo choo, as a bus pass holder never take my Jam Jar to town or other local trips and use leg power, we are informed that the earth moves around the sun and that the moon revolves around the earth I’m all in for the sun having the biggest influence on our climate than any other factor, a few ICE ages over billions of years would suggest that something other than the Anthropogenic model is the root cause, I couldn’t prove this of course, just like the scientists cannot prove their Anthropogenic model, we now have young children being frightened to death by these fkin faaar left nutters who have taken over the institutions with this indoctrination and I like sticking my two fingers up to them. Lets just accept the Anthropogenic model for a minute, the UK at 0.9% and wanting to tax the shit out of us whilst the current global power that is China laughing their bollox off building x amount of coal fired power station each year.
So yes 100% climate change.
Anthropogenic model 100% No, it's nothing more than a theory.
Until someone can prove otherwise in a consensus of scientists on both of the sides of the aisle without funding from Gates, Government’s and the WEF i.e. totally independent.
In a nutshell, the anthropogenic model = population control, and some people on here are actually demanding that it happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
bring it on after all Doucas thinks us old buggers are thick as shyte :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Agree, add in money laundering and wealth accumulation for the few. :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
We were educated by Johnny Rotten, and we know when we've been cheated :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
None of these measures will affect the people who have real money and large assets, it's only for the plebeians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
It's pure greed that's all, a billionaire wants 2 billion, Musk wants more than Zuck etc. in these circles its about the pecking order, me? i just want to wake up tomorrow morning and live another day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
It's more than greed, it's a con!Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
oh you silly thing you really gone and done it now ...................Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
ClampdownQuote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
So you think man made global warming is a conspiracy theory? 😆Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
YES YES YES YES 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927
Involving the majority of scientists on the planet? That's quite a theoryQuote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
No one gets hurt by my opinion, I will always believe that our weather, when not being interfered with by the globalists, is controlled by the Sun, Moon and solar activity. It's my theory and which cannot be proven just like the majority of the scientists on the planet with their theories, I've always been in the minority, I like it this way, i'm not a conformist. If a globalists liberals tells me that something is good for me, my take is that its bad for me, the majority of the worlds scientists told me to have an untested vaccine and if i did, I wouldn't get COVID and couldn't pass it on, I ignored them, have never had it so have never passed it on. Dem are my rules. As i live with a blood clot, its a high probability that i'll die due to a blood clot, but when it happens, my family will know it wasn't anything to do with an inadequately tested vaccine. If Sunak and Starmer told me it was Tuesday today, i would have to research it, just to checkQuote:
Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927
https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/news.html :thumbup:
Your opinion can hurt in a small way & needs to be challenged. Claiming that the vast majority of scientists are "in" on a conspiracy is quite crazy. I'm right wing but a strong environmentalist, we have been living unsustainably for far too long. We need to start cleaning up the planet and regrowing rain forrest, as they're the lungs of the planet and probably contain rare plants that could aid cures for deadly diseases. My one issue is cost, it shouldn't cost the average citizen more and the rich class less. In otherwords it shouldn't be used as an excuse to transfer wealth to the rich, not sure i've seen evidence that this is the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
I'm not a conspiracy theorist on the covid vaccine but i do think it was simply rushed through in order to reopen the economy. I have concerns about safety regarding the covid vaccine.
The climate has always been changing since the world began. What's different this time is the solution, which is basically an entirely new economic system.Quote:
Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927
I've got some very bad news for you mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927
If the elites wanted to transfer wealth they'd pretty much just take it off us in a more direct way. So why create a long term argument around climate change. It's all too elaborate and costly. Maybe, just Maybe, defforestation & pumping burnt coal and petrol into the air for centuries is bad for the planet. Or are you dead set on your conspiracy theory?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I know the climate has always been changing but that doesn't mean industrial pollution isn't a factor. You seem to like industrial pollution. If i put you in a room with a coal fire burning and a blocked chimney. Would you keep inhaling the awfully damaging fumes or put the fire out and find a healthierway to keep warm?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Yeah it makes no sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927
The oil and gas industry has been the wealthiest for decades, only tech companies have recently challenged. So if they're not the elites, who are?
It makes no sense on any level
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Originally Posted by MOZZER2
Well we've got flat earthers on here, so yeah I think you lot are thick.
Not a single one of you denialists have been able to answer this basic question.
What is the physical process that scientists say is causing man made climate change and what about that process do you disagree with? I've asked 50+ times. Guarantee you can't answer it :)
Oh no, you've gone and used your last conspiracy theory card! :yikes:Quote:
Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927
You believe people, you haven't said who, is lying to us all on a grand scale about climate change, in order to cause panic and transfer wealth and power to implement a new economic system. They have the vast majority of scientists "in" on it. Is that not a conspiracy theory?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Do as I say not as I do
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SEE IT: President Biden fighting climate change as he departs LAX in a 30-vehicle motorcade. WATCH <a href="https://t.co/2cuvOeyz44">pic.twitter.com/2cuvOeyz44</a></p>— Simon Ateba (@simonateba) <a href="https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/1760104943707386226?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Lets just put this climate nonsense to bed
Sun, Moon and Solar Activity :thumbup:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LARGEST FLARE FOR OVER 6 YEARS: Sunspot region AR3590 just produce the largest flare of Solar Cycle 25 [peaks this year] which makes it the largest flare since 2017! It was an X6 flare.<br>NOTE SCALE OF EARTH. ONLY SUN CAN WARM EARTH NOT CO2<a href="https://t.co/vv3QO0yLFd">pic.twitter.com/vv3QO0yLFd</a></p>— Robin Monotti (@robinmonotti) <a href="https://twitter.com/robinmonotti/status/1760899135794778186?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Flooded out?
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is this bad?
this seems bad
Will you be sleeping under your bed tonight then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
weird commentQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
China just recrded it's coldest December since 1951 [72 years]. - since their records began. I must have missed that on the 10 O'clock News..
is this good?Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
this seems good
I think we can all sleep in our beds now [or under them]..Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales