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Crazy English!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
There are some pics in todays South Wales Echo that shows Barry Island beach. Whilst nowhere near as busy as Bournemouth it was good to see people spacing themselves out to adhere to the guidelines
Broad haven in Pembs was its busiest for years yesterday I hear....not just in EnglandQuote:
Originally Posted by lisvaneblue
What do you expect when the bufoons policy is trust the people.
roughly what percentage of people where you live work etc are wearing masks?
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Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK
so 5 in every hundred you see! is that in Wales ? it would seem more are wearing in London.
England and Wales. I have been from Gloucester to Taunton and places in between in the last week as well as Cardiff and very very few people are wearing them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK
The really sad thing is that most of those I have met wearing them have been middle aged ladies who seem to think that wearing a mask protect them from me.
with regard to London, it is a far more cosmopolitan community and there are certain nationalities like Chinese Korean and the like that are far more likely to wear a mask. Indeed a lot of them always wear one even before the virus struck. Perhaps that adds to the percentage wearing them in the metropolis.
ok thanks for the info. i guess the british media just wants to send out an image that you are all wearing masks.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
No people aren't all wearing masks. I think in England it is compulsory on public transport so any photo of that will show a high percentage but otherwise I don't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK
I took my wife to the Dentist today and he was wearing a mask, then he took it off in his surgery to explain the treatment to me. :shrug:
ok that would explain it :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
An Interesting and encouraging study - worth a read.
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/declin...ls-in-england/
Can't make it compulsary for people with, for example asthma.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
Seen plenty of idiots wearing the mask... just not bothering to cover the nose.
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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
That is interesting. Some of the points i took from that as interesting theories were
1) Clinicians are becoming more skilled at treating the virus. We should also consider the success of the steroid treatment on critically ill patients.
2) The virus is less severe. A number of virologists have been labelled "lazy" for suggesting that the virus will lose strength. I don't think these figures back that up, but the USA's death rate is falling despite the huge numbers of people testing positive. Usually, this is put down to "more testing" and "better testing" - but coupled with the falling death rate in the US it does suggest that there maybe two elements at play here.
It will be interesting to see if there is more data that backs up a decline in the morbidity rate of the virus, and whether that is down to age groups (maybe older people are staying away from crowdded areas) of patients getting younger, or down to better and more effective treatment or (hopefully) the virus evolving into something less severe - something that is evident in other viruses.
The virus has mutated as all tend to do. Could well be that later strains have mutated weakening it as opposed to strengthening it, something rumoured a while ago.
exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
186 dead today, up from last week
https://twitter.com/BrummieBoy5/stat...090027521?s=20
Similar has been noted in Italy and the theory is that the virus is weakening and may fizzle out. Some UK experts like Prof Sakora postulate that this could be the likely outcomeQuote:
Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
Oi, I'm the Taunton correspondent on here! Stay off my patch!Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
Good to see the Prime Minister laying down the law and warning the irresponsible among us “not to take liberties...” as lockdown restrictions are eased.
They should have taken the piss when lockdown was more stringent like his master Dominic Cummings.
You gotta give it to him mind (Boris) he doesn’t care one ****ing bit:biggrin:
European holidays start on July 6th. Than **** he's only easing out of lock down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
So all these air bridge countries are just chasing the dollar over lives then? Thought Spain/Greece was going to ban the Brits? :shrug:
Wonder if Cardiff airport is included in the bridge?Quote:
Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
My holiday to Greece where I was due to leave from Rhoose (Cardiff) airport on July 29th has been cancelled by the travel agent.Quote:
Originally Posted by lisvaneblue
Well I did try to contact you to get a visa but in the end I was told it wasn't necessary as I was on government business and anyway as you were unavailable they assumed you were off somewhere adding another country to your list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
I do apologise, and just to let you know, I'm off to there again in a couple of hours. Is that OK?
Well, this is effing marvellous.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53218704
But but but I thought china was making its own viruses to attack the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
I bet David Cameron is feeling uneasy:biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
More evidence of how badly the pandemic was handled in the UK - a couple of months ago, we were being told to wait until more comprehensive figures were available before criticising this country's response, well, the sort of data we were told was needed is now available and it still looks pretty pathetic doesn't it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53222182
Damming report, but it doesn't give any evidence how badly the pandemic was handled, although we all think we know why.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
But the stats raise questions, why are England's results so much worse than Wales for example, when, at the peak 11 weeks, the UK had a uniform approach. Why is N Ireland best of the lot.....Within the UK some of the home nations results were not bad compared to other European nations, yet we had a UK wide approach.
Still a lot to be disclosed
The talk was we should wait for the excess deaths figure from other countries before drawing conclusions. Now, we have nearly three months of excess deaths data to consider and the figures show exactly the same as what they were showing when we were being told to hang on before coming to conclusions. All of the available evidence points the same way, so why should anyone think that there is still something out there which will lead to a complete reevaluation of how the UK handled the the first wave of the pandemic?Quote:
Originally Posted by lisvaneblue
Looking at those tables, the three other UK nations have clearly done better than England, but none of them are that good really, they just mean Arlene Foster, Nicola Sturgeon and Mark Drakeford and their administrations have not been the complete disaster that Johnson and his cronies have.
I might be being a massive, naive arse here but I was sort of expecting our respective governments to be considering and examining these statistics right about now and coming up with some better solutions than the fuuckfest they’ve coordinated the last few months?Quote:
Originally Posted by lisvaneblue
Taken from this paper...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
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That's an incredible graph.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
yes, and the sact that mask usage is STILL very sparse in this country speaks volumes about the total lack of clarity and consistency the public health messages have been.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I read somewhere we were the worst or second worst in the world for mask usage. Even other European countries with no long history of wearing masks have significantly upped the number of people wearing them.
I always wear a mask when out shopping but I must admit I do feel self-conscious as the vast majority of my fellow citizens are not. I suppose the fact that the face covering I have is something akin to what a bandit would wear and thus could be a bit intimidating! However being of a certain age it bothers me not one iota!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
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https://www.virustaticshield.com/
:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
I don't wear a mask due to asthma and have had a few comments directed at me for not doing so.
What's wrong? So the man is not self conscious about being self conscious. Wassamarra with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
When you get to a certain age, it..............um.................um...........wh at was I saying?
OK, it's a fair cop guvnor! Perhaps I should have said I feel "different", in the same way when I wear speedos on the beach and my grandchildren are cringing with embarrassment!Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie