GLAMMY

Plenty of twenties and thirties from Glamorgan players and then they get out. I watch Carlson bat thinking he’ll be out every ball - that’s fair enough if he’s playing under orders to thrash at everything, but it seems a bit of a waste of a real talent to me.

Colin Ingram is not the player he was and I can understand the decision to start with Labuschagne and Neser, but he knew how to convert promising starts into fifties or more - generally speaking, you need someone to do that if you’re going to get the sort of totals we should have got at Middlesex and last night especially, but unless our “anchorman” Northeast does it at a slower pace (it’s okay having someone anchor the innings when chasing the sort of totals we had to in our two wins, but it’s a luxury you can’t afford in most twenty over games surely?}, we’ve got no one who can do that it seems - I think I’m right in saying that we’ve only scored one four day game century so far in this high scoring season as well.

We’ve plenty of players who can play attractive cameos which don’t win matches, but we’ve never replaced the Ingram of five years ago and I’m beginning to wonder if it might be worth getting him back in the side before Labuschagne departs in the hope he can roll back the years because otherwise I can’t see us getting beyond the 180/190 range which is limiting the number of ways we can win matches.

I wouldn’t blame the bowlers, who’d done really well before then, for last night - Smeed will be playing for England soon I reckon and he’s a young player who can do what no one in our side is capable of by the look of it.

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Originally Posted by Claude Blue

Had to mute the commentary, what an annoying trio.

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Same here, all of the other counties use the BBC commentators who tend to be biased, but in a Test Match Special type way (I.e. with wry and self effacing humour). From previous experience, the young commentators aren’t too bad if Trego’s not there, but he brings out the worst in them it seems and doesn’t provide any of the insights you want from a former player. - Trego was a good one day player and all round sportsman, but he was something of a journeyman cricketer overall
and not as good as he seems to think he was.

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Originally Posted by Taffy Blue in Berkshire

hardly set the world alight and acted like a prima donna

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Sorry but that's absolutely crazy. Marnus is about as down to earth as you're going to see. Cant quite understand this desire to line up and bash him to be honest. He's not at peak form at he moment, but he's still playing well.

2 big positives from last night were a glimmer of form form for Lloyd and the addition of byrom to the side. I thought Byrom looked good. Lloyds hyper aggressive style will always lead to peaks and troughs, but he is such an important t20 batter for us.

5 games in we've lost 3 , won 2. 2 of the losses have come against somerset and Surrey who look pretty good for 1st and 2nd positions. I certainly think we're pretty well equipped to fight out for third and fourth spot.

Sam has to up his strikerate, historically he's batted a lot more fluently. If it's team orders that are asking him to play these kind of innings then I'd suggest the orders need to change immediately. If he's just a bit out of touch then maybe he needs to drop to 3 or 4, come in if we lose an early wicket, or just keep dropping the order if we are going well.

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Originally Posted by chrisp_1927

2 big positives from last night were a glimmer of form form for Lloyd and the addition of byrom to the side. I thought Byrom looked good. Lloyds hyper aggressive style will always lead to peaks and troughs, but he is such an important t20 batter for us.

5 games in we've lost 3 , won 2. 2 of the losses have come against somerset and Surrey who look pretty good for 1st and 2nd positions. I certainly think we're pretty well equipped to fight out for third and fourth spot.

Sam has to up his strikerate, historically he's batted a lot more fluently. If it's team orders that are asking him to play these kind of innings then I'd suggest the orders need to change immediately. If he's just a bit out of touch then maybe he needs to drop to 3 or 4, come in if we lose an early wicket, or just keep dropping the order if we are going well.

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I would drop Northeast down to 6. Promote Douthwaite to open with Lloyd and just go for it. It would probably fail but give it a go because our batsmen are falling short.

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Originally Posted by chrisp_1927

Sorry but that's absolutely crazy. Marnus is about as down to earth as you're going to see. Cant quite understand this desire to line up and bash him to be honest. He's not at peak form at he moment, but he's still playing well.

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He has been disappointing this season. Pretty ordinary in both forms of the game. He is a world class player and has not really been fluent throughout the season. He should be our leading batsman guiding the team at crucial stages. Instead he has thrown his wicket away at times.

...............but a prima donna ?

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

He has been disappointing this season. Pretty ordinary in both forms of the game. He is a world class player and has not really been fluent throughout the season. He should be our leading batsman guiding the team at crucial stages. Instead he has thrown his wicket away at times.

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Agree he's not been on top form, but he's averaging 41 in the championship so not to bad. His blast average could well be higher if he hadn't got run out by a teammate against Essex. Questions of performances are always legitimate. The prima donna bit I just can't understand . He's a real genuine, down to earth bloke who just lives cricket.

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Originally Posted by Seabird

...............but a prima donna ?

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No but he is a bit petulant when given out on occasions.

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Originally Posted by chrisp_1927

Agree he's not been on top form, but he's averaging 41 in the championship so not to bad. His blast average could well be higher if he hadn't got run out by a teammate against Essex. Questions of performances are always legitimate. The prima donna bit I just can't understand . He's a real genuine, down to earth bloke who just lives cricket.

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The batting average of 41 is based on one good performance v Derbyshire where he scored 130 and 85. Here are his other scores against other counties

8, 23, 50 not out, 3, 17, 31, 13 and 17. Very ordinary imo.

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

I would drop Northeast down to 6. Promote Douthwaite to open with Lloyd and just go for it. It would probably fail but give it a go because our batsmen are falling short.

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I'd have certainly been tempted to promote douthwaite and weighell yesterday with those small boundaries, hitting the ball in the air is a good option at Taunton and that's what the 2 of them like doing. Byrom could be another shout to open going forward, has opened for somerset and looks to be a fluent player.

he's a hired gun and some of his shot selection in both forms of the game has seen him lose his wicket cheaply. overall disappointing he's not clicked. no doubt a decent bloke.

Anyone backing England to win the first Test at 1/4? New Zealand available at 3/1.

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Originally Posted by Seabird

Anyone backing England to win the first Test at 1/4? New Zealand available at 3/1.

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Did you have a bet Colin? Surprised by those prices, but the bookies were proved right, all very comfortable- changing the new ball last night did not work out for New Zealand did it.

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Originally Posted by Seabird

Anyone backing England to win the first Test at 1/4? New Zealand available at 3/1.

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I don't think I'd have been comfortable backing either side at 1/4 in that one. Must have been some wild price swings during that game. I got lucky and had nz at 5.2 when they were 3 down on day 1, laid them when they were short, and laid a bit extra to give a little profit for the England win.

Was getting a bit worried after 2 overs. Pulled this back very well

Bob, I was very surprised at the betting and I thought 3/1 against NZ rather tempting, IF Root had got out I could see another panicky collapse but in fairness he and Foakes did the job without too many alarms. I can see the headlines now "England beat the World Test Champions!".

They'll pick the same side regardless of the quality of the batting in the first innings.

Decent total that with JOverton at the end

Overton has dragged them up close to par, but hopefully we can still chase these runs down

Kent in a strong position against middlesex. If they can win then 1 or 2 points from this would set us up very nicely.

No result 1 point

Marnus heading back to Australia today. Looks like we've still got Neser for at least a few more weeks.

I went for the first innings yesterday before strolling down to the CCS.

Very low crowd, more like the numbers that turn up for a 4 day game.

Glamorgan really did miss a trick by not starting at 12 or 1230. Sadly, I'm not sure they seem to care.

Roots bat …..

https://twitter.com/bbctms/status/15...hW8OC7Ow6M9ziQ

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Originally Posted by Llanishen Bull

I went for the first innings yesterday before strolling down to the CCS.

Very low crowd, more like the numbers that turn up for a 4 day game.

Glamorgan really did miss a trick by not starting at 12 or 1230. Sadly, I'm not sure they seem to care.

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I thought it was odd that the start got moved back to 2.00 and not earlier but, to be fair, there seemed to be some logic behind it. During the Surrey innings there were regular reminders that the Wales game would be shown on the big screens so I assume the plan was for the cricket to finish around 16.50 then everyone would stay in the ground to watch Wales v Ukraine in the afternoon sunshine. Not the worst plan, the club could boast it had a fan zone for the football and the food and drink outlets would do a roaring trade.

Except it didn't quite turn out like that. I wonder how many ended up watching on the big screens in the pouring rain? Like you said, there weren't many people there to start with. There wasn't any feeding the snake during the Surrey innings, that's for sure, Even feeding the worm would've been a struggle. Shame really, it was turning into a decent game and everyone involved deserved better luck with the weather.

I thought they wanted to move it completely but the half an hour shift was all they were allowed?

Could’ve been a decent alternative if the weather played it’s part for those that didn’t have tickets for the football and had some offer for those that did have tickets for the Ukraine game.

Great from Lloyd. Utterly useless from Northeast (again). Hopefully Lloyd keeps going and 180/200 is on the cards

111/3 off 14. Really struggling after Lloyd’s great start. Surely Douthwaite and Carlson should have come in ahead of Byrom.

128/4 with 4.1 overs left. We will post a competitive total but we should have been looking at 200 after such a great start.

We are making a mess of this. Poor from Carlson

Apart from Lloyd that was piss poor

There's not a huge amount of power in that batting lineup. Good players, but not many 6 hitters. So surely when we lose our first wicket after 10 overs, it has to be douthwaite coming out. We had a chance to get him in and give him a licence. Just seems to be no real intent from management. They're obviously happy with these northeast innings aswell

Ball attracted to the fielders like a magnet. Great start, awful second half. Don’t think rain will save us tonight.

Hopefully the bowlers will pull off a result for us.

Why are Glamorgan using a wicket which was very slow originally for a third consecutive game? There were two nicks which didn’t carry to the wicketkeeper in the first few overs and it got more and more slow and low as the ball softened. I’d be quite confident that we could win this with Neser playing, not too sure we can do without him - raining now which favours Gloucestershire.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Why are Glamorgan using a wicket which was very slow originally for a third consecutive game? There were two nicks which didn’t carry to the wicketkeeper in the first few overs and it got more and more slow and low as the ball softened. I’d be quite confident that we could win this with Neser playing, not too sure we can do without him - raining now which favours Gloucestershire.

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We don’t get much luck with the weather in Cardiff. This faint drizzle will just carry on for hours. Think this will be one point each which is not ideal

That was very poor from Weighell. If that was Carlson it would have been out

Another disappointing defeat. Too many players contributing very little. Are Carey and Smith unfit? Give them s chance over Weighell who offers very little.

Threw that game away from a strong position. Really poor effort

Looking forward to Friday. An in form Ben McDermott is one of the most destructive t20 batsman around. Was brilliant in last years big bash and has really hit form for Hampshire. Hopefully we get him first ball, but an exciting player to watch live !


Not sure what the forecast is like, but would be nice to see a big crowd.