It's only a farce to you losers that voted remain.Quote:
Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2
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It's only a farce to you losers that voted remain.Quote:
Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2
There are two political leaders on that stage. The head of the most powerful democracy in the world and the Argentinian President, hosting the event who looks bemused and humiliated by his behaviour. Given that Trump hasn't tweeted anything derogatory about Argentina or its leaders, what do you think the geo-political advantage the legend achieved by this?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
You’ll be immune to economic hardship when it all goes tits up because you voted leave?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogersblue
Good luck with that and I hope Q Anon will provide some comfort to you 😉👍
The EU are next on the list to renegotiate a fairer trade deal with the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRbom68J2x4
Presumably you are a beneficiary of the unfair deal that the EU has with the US (though it doesn't currently have one). What are you particularly looking forward to when Trump negotiates the finer deal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Trusring the plan, and got the popcorn readyQuote:
Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2
Q has shot his bolt IMO, cried wolf once too often, [D5] last throw of the dice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogersblue
I'm just quoting what he said, but I doubt the $151 billion a year trade defecit will exist after Trump is finished, so the EU will need to recoup the money elsewhere, and it looks like Macron has already made a start on that with his fuel tax.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Presumably a goodly proportion of the $151b :sherlock:deficit will be something that Trump will seek to diminish when the US negotiates a new trade deal with the UK as and when the UK is able to enter into those negotiations. Could be never under the May deal of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
What that has to do with Macron (not the EU) seeking to deal with France's traditional undertaxing of a diesel fuel that it considers to be a contributor to climate change is anybody's guess!
Brussels call the shots, and now Macron is paying the price. Either that or he is very stupid :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
What do you mean by Brussels calling the shots? I know you consume vast amounts of evidence from all political quarters before you articulate your well considered views so feel free to share why you think this is so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
The Mueller team have recommended no jail time for General Flynn :sherlock:
So when Mueller filed the recommendation to the court that Flynn had "provided first hand information about the content and context of interactions between the transition team and Russian Government officials" and "substantial assistance in a criminal investigation" in a heavily redacted document because those investigations are on going presumably there is nothing to see aboard the Trump Collusion Delusion Express?:sherlock:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
When viewed as part of the "insurance policy", it looks like the plan failed, so now we have to wait for the 302's to see if they were altered after the fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Doesnt look like to me that Mueller’s plans have failed
Is this what you’re referring to?
From the outside it looks a very professional investigation led by a man with previous for convicting serious organised criminals.
It all depends if he was working with Peter Strzok and Andrew McCabe or against them. It was Obama people and journalists who initially targeted Flynn under the Logan Act, via unmasking and leaking. Only two people have ever been indicted on charges of violating the Act, one in 1802 and the other in 1852. Neither was convicted of violating the Act. The only reason they did it was to get at Trump, by pushing the Trump Russia Collusion conspiracy. Don't worry, the truth is all going to come out, and then we can evaluate what Mueller was really up to.Quote:
Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2
I’m not worried.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
What truth is coming out (in your opinion)?
So Flynn was prosecuted under the Logan Act then. News to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I said targeted under the Logan Act, he was unmasked and it was leaked to journalists.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
About the Russia collusion hoax.Quote:
Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2
GRASSLEY DEMANDS ANSWERS FROM WRAY OVER RAID OF WHISTLEBLOWER ON CLINTON FOUNDATIONQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/03/g...leblower-raid/
Targetted by people with no prosecutive powers, wow! Anyway he did plead guilty to making materially false statements to the FBI. Furthermore despite wild rantings about the FBI changing statements it would appear that Flynn decided the best action open to him was to fully co-operate with Mueller rather than challenge the process as illegal and misleading.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
As someone who I know only forms conclusions on the basis of painstaking reviews of official documents why do you believe the version of events you have aired today and on other occasions rather than the official document filed with the court seeking mitigating sentencing due to Flynn's co-operation in giving first hand evidence of Trump transition team "interactions" with Russian government officials and his substantial assistance in a criminal investigation.
ps - have read the Treehouse version of events which incredibly mirrors your original argument.
Donald still has the respect of everyone.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There's more. There were three copies of the new NAFTA deal to sign. During the signing ceremony, President Trump appears to sign in the wrong place on one of them.<br><br>This is the exact moment everyone realized, individually with their reactions, including Prime Minister Trudeau. <a href="https://t.co/Wd3CEtV73D">pic.twitter.com/Wd3CEtV73D</a></p>— Muhammad Lila (@MuhammadLila) <a href="https://twitter.com/MuhammadLila/status/1069609790802784257?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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"Which is the one that matters" :facepalm:
I hope the redacted bits are explosive as you think they are, otherwise you will look like a sycophant :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Who provided the glue between these three quotes do you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
1) M.Flynn guilty just rewards for lying to the President. It shows Trump made the right decision to fire him.
2) Very likely FBI changed the interview 302s which means that Flynn is going to walk and sue their sorry asses.
3) ps Charges against Flynn will be dropped!
Trump firing Flynn had nothing to do with the Mueller investigation. If it transpires that the 302's were altered, of course the charges will be annulled and compensation sought. You are really trying a bit too hard to defend all of these people. I hope it works out well for your kind of people, so that you don't become forever tainted by them :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
So let me get this right. The conspiracist theory that the interview notes were changed has been around for over 6 months. Yet in that period neither Flynn nor his legal team has done anything to challenge the charges against him and continued to fully co-operate with Mueller. Strange that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Trump's firing Flynn had nothing to do with Mueller? I guess neither did Donny asking Comey to "give him a break" then (cf Rudy Guliani ABC News)!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Someone within the Obama admin leaked Flynn’s call to the WaPo. That was a felony. Why is there no interest by Mueller in investigating this actual crime? h/t <a href="https://twitter.com/KimStrassel?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KimStrassel</a> <a href="https://t.co/IFFUlFqo5Z">pic.twitter.com/IFFUlFqo5Z</a></p>— Nick Short (@PoliticalShort) <a href="https://twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/1070342757359763458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
The appearance of a bunch of Fox aligned Butwhataboutists talking about Mueller saying Flynn was helpful must be of great comfort to Butwhataboutists everywhere in these troubling times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
She is a real journalist who has actually spotted a real crime!Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
What's the real crime?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Not the ones Flynn, Manafort. Papa what’s his name are guilty of apparently .....😃Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Former H.W. Bush Attorney General William Barr is leading candidate to lead Justice Department
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/p...te/2228091002/
Leaking classified information is a 10 year stretch in jail.Quote:
Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2
What do you think the real crime is with classified information being leaked to this journalist?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/41...isa-abuses-yet
Over on twitter Trumpy having a major hissy fit.
Spelling by as bye too.
Who’s getting indicted next for him to be so vexed then?
Took him an hour to write those five tweets - one every 10-12 minutes and then a big push of 20 minutes to get the last one done. :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2
Wow, truth bombs dropping all over the place :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2
Trump hires someone he saw on Fox as UN ambassador - Heather Nauert, former Fox presenter.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy