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Originally Posted by Tuerto wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 16:26
Excuse the pun, although it was intended! There must be a reason for this meeting, other than to smooth over some rather large cracks. If i'm correct, then hasn't Tan and his representatives been asked to meet up with the trust on numerous occasions, only for the request to fall on deaf ears?
Simple as that really.
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Originally Posted by blueblade wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 16:28
Excuse the pun, although it was intended! There must be a reason for this meeting, other than to smooth over some rather large cracks. If i'm correct, then hasn't Tan and his representatives been asked to meet up with the trust on numerous occasions, only for the request to fall on deaf ears?
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Originally Posted by Tuerto wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 16:26
So why now, especially so soon after a big dose of ****off medicine through Sky? Is The club rattled and has Tan realised that the only way that the club will prosper is through a united fanbase? I'm a bit of a cynic, but I can't understand why this meeting is being called so soon after Tan relayed such a definitive message to supporters.
Maybe he's reached 'Alf Sherwood's' legendary tipping point 😬
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Originally Posted by Lawnmower wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 19:43
Excuse the pun, although it was intended! There must be a reason for this meeting, other than to smooth over some rather large cracks. If i'm correct, then hasn't Tan and his representatives been asked to meet up with the trust on numerous occasions, only for the request to fall on deaf ears?
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Originally Posted by blueblade wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 16:28
So why now, especially so soon after a big dose of ****off medicine through Sky? Is The club rattled and has Tan realised that the only way that the club will prosper is through a united fanbase? I'm a bit of a cynic, but I can't understand why this meeting is being called so soon after Tan relayed such a definitive message to supporters.
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Originally Posted by Tuerto wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 16:26
We've had a 4,000 crowd, live on TV.
Also the message board & social media talk of multiple protests/demonstrations coming up.
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Originally Posted by blueblade wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 16:28
Excuse the pun, although it was intended! There must be a reason for this meeting, other than to smooth over some rather large cracks. If i'm correct, then hasn't Tan and his representatives been asked to meet up with the trust on numerous occasions, only for the request to fall on deaf ears?
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Originally Posted by Tuerto wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 16:26
So why now, especially so soon after a big dose of ****off medicine through Sky? Is The club rattled and has Tan realised that the only way that the club will prosper is through a united fanbase? I'm a bit of a cynic, but I can't understand why this meeting is being called so soon after Tan relayed such a definitive message to supporters.
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Increasingly empty stands as the season wears on coupled with a dismal atmosphere around the club and widespread talk of thousands of fans not renewing for 2015/16. Simple as that, I reckon.
It's no coincidence that the supporters are being called in a few days after a record low attendance at the CCS. Regardless of the competition and other factors like Friday night, live on TV, etc, the sight of just 3,500 fans at the stadium for a first team fixture will have rung alarm bells for everyone at the club, including the Emperor.
Finally the fans refuse to turn up in decent numbers for a game. Finally Tan gets rattled. Who'd have thought it, huh?
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 21:27
Increasingly empty stands as the season wears on coupled with a dismal atmosphere around the club and widespread talk of thousands of fans not renewing for 2015/16. Simple as that, I reckon.
Ah well..
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 21:27
Increasingly empty stands as the season wears on coupled with a dismal atmosphere around the club and widespread talk of thousands of fans not renewing for 2015/16. Simple as that, I reckon.
Indeed.
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 21:27
Increasingly empty stands as the season wears on coupled with a dismal atmosphere around the club and widespread talk of thousands of fans not renewing for 2015/16. Simple as that, I reckon.
We've come a long way since that infamous Tuesday night against Brighton.
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Originally Posted by TH63 wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 23:49
Increasingly empty stands as the season wears on coupled with a dismal atmosphere around the club and widespread talk of thousands of fans not renewing for 2015/16. Simple as that, I reckon.
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 21:27
It's no coincidence that the supporters are being called in a few days after a record low attendance at the CCS. Regardless of the competition and other factors like Friday night, live on TV, etc, the sight of just 3,500 fans at the stadium for a first team fixture will have rung alarm bells for everyone at the club, including the Emperor.
The irony is however that is is simple apathy, much of it emanating from poor football (fans giving up and just walking away or threatening to) rather than anything else that has brought this to a head. Personally, I don't mind how we got there as long as we did. Let's hope it achieves the turning point that is so vital.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:04
Increasingly empty stands as the season wears on coupled with a dismal atmosphere around the club and widespread talk of thousands of fans not renewing for 2015/16. Simple as that, I reckon.
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Originally Posted by TH63 wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 23:49
It's no coincidence that the supporters are being called in a few days after a record low attendance at the CCS. Regardless of the competition and other factors like Friday night, live on TV, etc, the sight of just 3,500 fans at the stadium for a first team fixture will have rung alarm bells for everyone at the club, including the Emperor.
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 21:27
Finally the fans refuse to turn up in decent numbers for a game. Finally Tan gets rattled. Who'd have thought it, huh?
You get stick because you don't back up your words with action.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:10
Increasingly empty stands as the season wears on coupled with a dismal atmosphere around the club and widespread talk of thousands of fans not renewing for 2015/16. Simple as that, I reckon.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:04
It's no coincidence that the supporters are being called in a few days after a record low attendance at the CCS. Regardless of the competition and other factors like Friday night, live on TV, etc, the sight of just 3,500 fans at the stadium for a first team fixture will have rung alarm bells for everyone at the club, including the Emperor.
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Originally Posted by TH63 wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 23:49
Finally the fans refuse to turn up in decent numbers for a game. Finally Tan gets rattled. Who'd have thought it, huh?
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 21:27
With hindsight I have to say you were right and I was wrong.
Anyway, time to draw a line under this. cheers.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:31
Increasingly empty stands as the season wears on coupled with a dismal atmosphere around the club and widespread talk of thousands of fans not renewing for 2015/16. Simple as that, I reckon.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:10
It's no coincidence that the supporters are being called in a few days after a record low attendance at the CCS. Regardless of the competition and other factors like Friday night, live on TV, etc, the sight of just 3,500 fans at the stadium for a first team fixture will have rung alarm bells for everyone at the club, including the Emperor.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:04
Finally the fans refuse to turn up in decent numbers for a game. Finally Tan gets rattled. Who'd have thought it, huh?
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Originally Posted by TH63 wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 23:49
With hindsight I have to say you were right and I was wrong.
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 21:27
I've always felt that the best form of protest was a sea of blue, but I now accept that a mass boycott, although challenging to organise, would've been the best solution.
The other way of looking at it is that the only thing Tan has paid any attention to is the lack of attendance for the Colchester game. You like most of us bought season tickets in the good years. If anything you are in the 98% majority rather than the 2% minority.
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It's 'here we go again' because you still think you've done more than 98% of fans. No one has any problems with what you've done but you put yourself on a pedestal (sorry, pedal stool). That's why you keep getting stick.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:37
It's 'here we go again' because you still think you've done more than 98% of fans. No one has any problems with what you've done but you put yourself on a pedestal (sorry, pedal stool). That's why you keep getting stick.
I get the feeling history will be written differently to how most of us remember it by Nigel in years to come.
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:35
Increasingly empty stands as the season wears on coupled with a dismal atmosphere around the club and widespread talk of thousands of fans not renewing for 2015/16. Simple as that, I reckon.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:31
It's no coincidence that the supporters are being called in a few days after a record low attendance at the CCS. Regardless of the competition and other factors like Friday night, live on TV, etc, the sight of just 3,500 fans at the stadium for a first team fixture will have rung alarm bells for everyone at the club, including the Emperor.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:10
Surely any protest is more effective and/or creditworthy if there is a degree of sacrifice involved for those doing the protesting? It seems pretty obvious that many would be missing the Colchester game anyway and it would be a hollow claim to say that if the crowd was down by, say, 12,000 from our average league gate this season, it was because of a fans boycott - indeed, all the club would have to say was that they expected such a low gate anyway and it would be impossible to argue with them.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:04
Far better for me that, if there is a match selected for a boycott, it be a league match which many would have paid for already - I'd certainly support any such boycott between now and the end of the season.
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Originally Posted by TH63 wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 23:49
I agree. Loads of cup games nowadays have low crowds. No one bats an eyelid.
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 21:27
With hindsight I have to say you were right and I was wrong.
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Originally Posted by Finally the fans refuse to turn up in decent numbers for a game. Finally Tan gets rattled. Who'd have thought it, huh? the other bob wilson wrote on Fri, 19 December 2014 05:54
I've always felt that the best form of protest was a sea of blue, but I now accept that a mass boycott, although challenging to organise, would've been the best solution.
Nite.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:52
Increasingly empty stands as the season wears on coupled with a dismal atmosphere around the club and widespread talk of thousands of fans not renewing for 2015/16. Simple as that, I reckon.
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:35
It's no coincidence that the supporters are being called in a few days after a record low attendance at the CCS. Regardless of the competition and other factors like Friday night, live on TV, etc, the sight of just 3,500 fans at the stadium for a first team fixture will have rung alarm bells for everyone at the club, including the Emperor.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:31
Surely any protest is more effective and/or creditworthy if there is a degree of sacrifice involved for those doing the protesting? It seems pretty obvious that many would be missing the Colchester game anyway and it would be a hollow claim to say that if the crowd was down by, say, 12,000 from our average league gate this season, it was because of a fans boycott - indeed, all the club would have to say was that they expected such a low gate anyway and it would be impossible to argue with them.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:10
Far better for me that, if there is a match selected for a boycott, it be a league match which many would have paid for already - I'd certainly support any such boycott between now and the end of the season.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:04
I agree. Loads of cup games nowadays have low crowds. No one bats an eyelid.
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Originally Posted by TH63 wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 23:49
With hindsight I have to say you were right and I was wrong.
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 21:27
I've always felt that the best form of protest was a sea of blue, but I now accept that a mass boycott, although challenging to organise, would've been the best solution.
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Originally Posted by Finally the fans refuse to turn up in decent numbers for a game. Finally Tan gets rattled. Who'd have thought it, huh? the other bob wilson wrote on Fri, 19 December 2014 05:54
We've come a long way since that infamous Tuesday night against Brighton.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:52
That was always going to be the way. Tan had the upper hand for a short time with the club in the Prem, he could be uncaring towards fans as it didn't cost him.
Once again you are wrong. I never said that at all.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:52
Two things:
And doesn't that make you wish you'd had the balls to chuck in your ticket in 2012? Because I sure as hell wish I had, and no amount of avoiding red seats is going to make me feel better about it.
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:59
Increasingly empty stands as the season wears on coupled with a dismal atmosphere around the club and widespread talk of thousands of fans not renewing for 2015/16. Simple as that, I reckon.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:52
It's no coincidence that the supporters are being called in a few days after a record low attendance at the CCS. Regardless of the competition and other factors like Friday night, live on TV, etc, the sight of just 3,500 fans at the stadium for a first team fixture will have rung alarm bells for everyone at the club, including the Emperor.
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:35
Surely any protest is more effective and/or creditworthy if there is a degree of sacrifice involved for those doing the protesting? It seems pretty obvious that many would be missing the Colchester game anyway and it would be a hollow claim to say that if the crowd was down by, say, 12,000 from our average league gate this season, it was because of a fans boycott - indeed, all the club would have to say was that they expected such a low gate anyway and it would be impossible to argue with them.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:31
Far better for me that, if there is a match selected for a boycott, it be a league match which many would have paid for already - I'd certainly support any such boycott between now and the end of the season.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:10
I agree. Loads of cup games nowadays have low crowds. No one bats an eyelid.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:04
With hindsight I have to say you were right and I was wrong.
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Originally Posted by TH63 wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 23:49
I've always felt that the best form of protest was a sea of blue, but I now accept that a mass boycott, although challenging to organise, would've been the best solution.
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 21:27
We've come a long way since that infamous Tuesday night against Brighton.
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Originally Posted by Finally the fans refuse to turn up in decent numbers for a game. Finally Tan gets rattled. Who'd have thought it, huh? the other bob wilson wrote on Fri, 19 December 2014 05:54
That was always going to be the way. Tan had the upper hand for a short time with the club in the Prem, he could be uncaring towards fans as it didn't cost him.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:52
Now in decline, it's a different story because it is costing him.
As for your other comments, that's your view. I actually don't go out of my way to state what I do/have done. This has come only from me publicly thanking Tan for my holidays paid for entirely by money I no longer spend on City (it's a message to the club but seems to have bothered a few other fans for reasons best known to themselves). I also mention it when others, like Lardy above, like to offer a lazy comment that I have personally done no action to match my words. Maybe it's not to his liking but it's also patently untrue.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 01:07
Increasingly empty stands as the season wears on coupled with a dismal atmosphere around the club and widespread talk of thousands of fans not renewing for 2015/16. Simple as that, I reckon.
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:59
It's no coincidence that the supporters are being called in a few days after a record low attendance at the CCS. Regardless of the competition and other factors like Friday night, live on TV, etc, the sight of just 3,500 fans at the stadium for a first team fixture will have rung alarm bells for everyone at the club, including the Emperor.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:52
Surely any protest is more effective and/or creditworthy if there is a degree of sacrifice involved for those doing the protesting? It seems pretty obvious that many would be missing the Colchester game anyway and it would be a hollow claim to say that if the crowd was down by, say, 12,000 from our average league gate this season, it was because of a fans boycott - indeed, all the club would have to say was that they expected such a low gate anyway and it would be impossible to argue with them.
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:35
Far better for me that, if there is a match selected for a boycott, it be a league match which many would have paid for already - I'd certainly support any such boycott between now and the end of the season.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:31
I agree. Loads of cup games nowadays have low crowds. No one bats an eyelid.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:10
With hindsight I have to say you were right and I was wrong.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:04
I've always felt that the best form of protest was a sea of blue, but I now accept that a mass boycott, although challenging to organise, would've been the best solution.
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Originally Posted by TH63 wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 23:49
We've come a long way since that infamous Tuesday night against Brighton.
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 21:27
That was always going to be the way. Tan had the upper hand for a short time with the club in the Prem, he could be uncaring towards fans as it didn't cost him.
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Originally Posted by Finally the fans refuse to turn up in decent numbers for a game. Finally Tan gets rattled. Who'd have thought it, huh? the other bob wilson wrote on Fri, 19 December 2014 05:54
Now in decline, it's a different story because it is costing him.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:52
I dont care if I get stick on here at times when all I give is my opinion but I have pointed out for months that we needed to do more than wave a scarf.
I think the issue people have, and why you get picked up on things is because you appear to slate other fans in the meantime, when a lot of their stances has been similar to your/my own.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 01:03
Two things:
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:52
1. I like to,draw a line under it because I get incredibly bored by it. I Note your opinion, I'm just not bothered by it but thanks for your feedback. Cheers.
We all had an individual choice to make and I personally had more reasons to still go than not at all and the overwhelming ones were about my family, son, daughter and friends who do go and I enjoy spending time with and my desire to watch the football team I have watched week in, week out without ever being away since 1968. That's why I made a personal stance to invest nil in the club other than my season ticket money which I have maintained since 2012.
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 01:11
Increasingly empty stands as the season wears on coupled with a dismal atmosphere around the club and widespread talk of thousands of fans not renewing for 2015/16. Simple as that, I reckon.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 01:07
It's no coincidence that the supporters are being called in a few days after a record low attendance at the CCS. Regardless of the competition and other factors like Friday night, live on TV, etc, the sight of just 3,500 fans at the stadium for a first team fixture will have rung alarm bells for everyone at the club, including the Emperor.
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:59
Surely any protest is more effective and/or creditworthy if there is a degree of sacrifice involved for those doing the protesting? It seems pretty obvious that many would be missing the Colchester game anyway and it would be a hollow claim to say that if the crowd was down by, say, 12,000 from our average league gate this season, it was because of a fans boycott - indeed, all the club would have to say was that they expected such a low gate anyway and it would be impossible to argue with them.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:52
Far better for me that, if there is a match selected for a boycott, it be a league match which many would have paid for already - I'd certainly support any such boycott between now and the end of the season.
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:35
I agree. Loads of cup games nowadays have low crowds. No one bats an eyelid.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:31
With hindsight I have to say you were right and I was wrong.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:10
I've always felt that the best form of protest was a sea of blue, but I now accept that a mass boycott, although challenging to organise, would've been the best solution.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:04
We've come a long way since that infamous Tuesday night against Brighton.
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Originally Posted by TH63 wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 23:49
That was always going to be the way. Tan had the upper hand for a short time with the club in the Prem, he could be uncaring towards fans as it didn't cost him.
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Tue, 06 January 2015 21:27
Now in decline, it's a different story because it is costing him.
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Originally Posted by Finally the fans refuse to turn up in decent numbers for a game. Finally Tan gets rattled. Who'd have thought it, huh? the other bob wilson wrote on Fri, 19 December 2014 05:54
I dont care if I get stick on here at times when all I give is my opinion but I have pointed out for months that we needed to do more than wave a scarf.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:52
The irony is however that is is simple apathy, much of it emanating from poor football (fans giving up and just walking away or threatening to) rather than anything else that has brought this to a head. Personally, I don't mind how we got there as long as we did. Let's hope it achieves the turning point that is so vital.
Hopefully, it's now a time for looking forward rather than back though.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 01:20
Two things:
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 01:03
1. I like to,draw a line under it because I get incredibly bored by it. I Note your opinion, I'm just not bothered by it but thanks for your feedback. Cheers.
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Originally Posted by NigelBlues wrote on Wed, 07 January 2015 00:52
2. How very interesting you are telling me tonight that the only thing Tan has paid any attention to is the lack of attendance for the Col,U game. You make me laugh. Reason being when I started a thread suggesting we boycott it and deliver allow crowd to send a message, you, as usual, were one of the first to wade in and rubbish it. Your words 'Loads of cup games nowadays have low crowds. No one bats an eyelid.'. Yeah, how right you were eh?
As you say, it's now time for looking forward and not back, which is a sentiment you've made before. However, you still can't resist pointing out how you think you're better than 98% of fans. Someone pulled you up on this a couple of weeks ago and you said fair point but back to square one now.
