Apparently they had some sort of televised face off last night.
The fact that it hasn't even had a mention on here tells me just how much relevance these two people have in the eyes of the general public.
A sad state of affairs really.
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Apparently they had some sort of televised face off last night.
The fact that it hasn't even had a mention on here tells me just how much relevance these two people have in the eyes of the general public.
A sad state of affairs really.
One of them has 80% support from the CLP's around the country, the other confirmed that he would push a nuclear button if he had to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Lecter
One is unelectable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splott David
The other is unrecognisable.
Brexit showed that the public cannot be relied on to vote the 'right way' depending on your point of view. They effectively sent a big F.U. to the establishment and I fully expect a repeat of that next time around with the General Election.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Lecter
the big FU to the establishment being that as long as Corbyn is in charge of Labour the Conservatives will win a comfortable maj
the big FU to the establishment being that as long as Corbyn is in charge of Labour the Conservatives will win a comfortable majority.
if you think labour have a hope in the next general election then you really have lost the plot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splott David
Probably more chance of me and Mrs R getting it on.
FYP :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Lecter
Or Corbyn does the sensible thing and organises large-scale de-selections of MPs who don't represent the views of the CLP.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
In Sha'allah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabalphaville
Sue is back on the Bake Off this week, does anybody know why she was missing from the previous episode? I find it all very unsettling :angry:
The Labour MP's against Corbyn are Fabians. The Blairites have had lot's of time in recent years to install their own gatekeepers into positions of power that influence the MP selection process, hence we are now seeing a split with the majority of the rank and file supporting Corbyn, and the Fabians/Blairites desperately trying to keep hold of the party machinery, but beginning to lose control.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
I fully expect to see a purge of Fabian/Blairite MP's and gatekeepers if Corbyn sticks around. Politics is a very dodgy business, with a handful of Machiavellian types behind the scenes pushing and conrolling a specific agenda.
Everybody also thought nobody wanted Brexit :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
not really, nearly everyone i know wanted out, different circles i guess, if you listen to what people say and not the msm you might have picked that vibe up too :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
And then you have to consider the reality that its the electorate , who matter foremost ,they will deliver their views and a defining message at the next general Election , it will not matter what support or results flow from the CLP , PLP , by elections , council elections, mayor elections.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splott David
It's all over but the shouting
The 'electorate' are well aware that a dirty tricks campaign has been waged against JC since he became leader of Labour and will question if they will still want to get f***ed in the arse by the Tories, or give someone who is motivated by values and principles as opposed to self-interest a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
I think the electorate have a broader view than that ,and it will wear thin , the public can also see the party sadly not functioning and just protesting , when it comes to the bite at the election box the majority will border on caution and a safe pair of hands .Quote:
Originally Posted by Splott David
The party is functioning pretty well at present, however the Blairites that have been left behind as gatekeepers to maintain the processes implemented during Blair's tenure are coming under attack. Those MP's who went in to parliament under that process who have tried to cling to it, will come under pressure and some may well find themselves deselected.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
I was just thinking Labour doing well when the last poll they were 14 points behind.
They may well win a few by elections, but come the next election all I can see is 100 plus for the Tories.
And all the de-selections of 'Blairites' (whatever that means ) wont matter jack shit with the electorate.
Still. Jezza got his cult movement and will probably be a good tea time slot at Glastonbury between Neil Diamond and EMF.
It doesn't matter who wins out of Dumb and Dumber,what matters is the fact that there will be no effective opposition for the foreseeable future.
https://twitter.com/Rachael_Swindon/...94977345835008Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Lecter
I'm not really sure why Owen Smith is bothering, he's got no chance. The same could be said for Corbyn and the next election.
It's not great for the country to have such weak opposition.
Even Serial killers on death row have fans :-D :-DQuote:
Originally Posted by Splott David
As I said before decent enough man, probably a good MP but leader of opposition and future PM?
Nay nay and thrice nay as Frankie Howerd would say.
So it wasn't your mates that organised that stronger together thing :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Packerman
I waited since 1975 to vote out. Could not get to the polling station quick enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales