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Gething sacks minister alleging she leaked to media
	
	
		https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckv7ve8k82noThe 
I thought they had lost all the Whats app messages :hehe:
Even if he actually did lose them , does that mean the other recipients lost theirs too :hehe:
	 
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		Plaid have now pulled out of the co-operation agreement with Welsh Government, Labour Senedd group meeting at 5
Looks like we'll be getting a new First Minister...
	 
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			Blimey. Big news that is
			
		
	 
 It's all the talk around Cafe Castan in Pontcanna..
	 
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 I think they call it plausible deniability, but it doesn't really matter as 80% of the population don't even know what day of the week it is.
	 
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			I think they call it plausible deniability, but it doesn't really matter as 80% of the population don't even know what day of the week it is.
			
		
	 
 It’s hilarious that all these messages are deleted from All the recipients in the group chats and All  the senders : all in lockstep :hehe:
	 
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			It’s hilarious that all these messages are deleted from All the recipients in the group chats and All  the senders : all in lockstep :hehe:
			
		
	 
 It's what is known in the business as a coincidence theory!
	 
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 Why do they look like a pair of Bond villains? :hehe:
	 
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		I definitely won't get excited at what might happen if he steps down but it's always nice to watch Welsh Labour **** things up.
	 
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		What respect I had for Vaughan Gething pretty much evaporates.
What an absolute load of bullshit. How can anyone in their right mind believe that when you look at the routine abuse and scrutiny that all politicians from Johnson, Drakeford, Corbyn, Sunak, Rayner get.
Pathetic.
FM says political attacks "racially driven"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgg0035dd0o
	 
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JamesWales
				
			 
			What respect I had for Vaughan Gething pretty much evaporates.
What an absolute load of bullshit. How can anyone in their right mind believe that when you look at the routine abuse and scrutiny that all politicians from Johnson, Drakeford, Corbyn, Sunak, Rayner get.
Pathetic.
FM says political attacks "racially driven"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgg0035dd0o 
			
		
	 
 Yeah it's definitely not because he's acted unethically or anything.
	 
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		Very disappointing that he has played the race card.
	 
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			I definitely won't get excited at what might happen if he steps down but it's always nice to watch Welsh Labour **** things up.
			
		
	 
 People in England have been thinking that of the tories since dinosaurs walked the earth
	 
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			Very disappointing that he has played the race card.
			
		
	 
 It's not disappointing to me, I won a bet!
	 
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JamesWales
				
			 
			What respect I had for Vaughan Gething pretty much evaporates.
What an absolute load of bullshit. How can anyone in their right mind believe that when you look at the routine abuse and scrutiny that all politicians from Johnson, Drakeford, Corbyn, Sunak, Rayner get.
Pathetic.
FM says political attacks "racially driven"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgg0035dd0o 
			
		
	 
 Whilst I think he's a dead man walking you have said the FM has said the attacks are racially driven 
Where's that?
	 
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Robin Friday's Ghost
				
			 
			Yeah it's definitely not because he's acted unethically or anything.
			
		
	 
 He hasn't said the attacks on him are racially driven  has he ?
	 
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			Very disappointing that he has played the race card.
			
		
	 
 The use of the term playing the race card is very dodgy 
Especially as in this case there are no direct links to vg commenting on the situation which might back up this sort of comment
	 
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			People in England have been thinking that of the tories since dinosaurs walked the earth
			
		
	 
 Yes they have and with good reason. I think even a hardened Labour supporter like you would find it hard to argue that Welsh Labour aren't doing the same here.
	 
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SLUDGE FACTORY
				
			 
			The use of the term playing the race card is very dodgy 
Especially as in this case there are no direct links to vg commenting on the situation which might back up this sort of comment
			
		
	 
 This is all hearsay of course but a MS is quoted as saying that "Vaughan Gething and his supporters made the case that the attacks against him were racially driven". He/she might have been lying of course. Do you think he/she was?
	 
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		I am not a hardened labour supporter,  I won't vote conservative though 
But it is clear you are very anti Labour
	 
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SLUDGE FACTORY
				
			 
			I am not a hardened labour supporter,  I won't vote conservative though 
But it is clear you are very anti Labour
			
		
	 
 Well for once we agree because that I most definitely am.
	 
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Robin Friday's Ghost
				
			 
			This is all hearsay of course but a MS is quoted as saying that "Vaughan Gething and his supporters made the case that the attacks against him were racially driven". He/she might have been lying of course. Do you think he/she was?
			
		
	 
 I think people on here are jumping on what as you say is hearsay and talking about the race card 
Very dodgy 
Are you asking if this person anonymously quoted as saying VG and his supporters are using the racial background of VG to suggest that his race is an issue .....is lying ? 
I have no idea,  if that's the question , people do lie 
If he wasn't quoted anonymously then there might be a possibility that quote could be verified
	 
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SLUDGE FACTORY
				
			 
			I think people on here are jumping on what as you say is hearsay and talking about the race card 
Very dodgy 
Are you asking if this person anonymously quoted as saying VG and his supporters are using the racial background of VG to suggest that his race is an issue .....is lying ? 
I have no idea,  if that's the question , people do lie 
If he wasn't quoted anonymously then there might be a possibility that quote could be verified
			
		
	 
 Yes it could be be made up. And the fact that neither Gething nor his supporters have tried to deny it doesn't prove anything either.
	 
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Robin Friday's Ghost
				
			 
			Well for once we agree because that I most definitely am.
			
		
	 
 Well that's a surprise 
I most definitely am totally anti Conservative and the point I am making on here is that if you speak about the last 25 years being a disaster .....that's open to debate .....then my English friends who have known apart from 13 years of labour a tory government all their lives will say they feel even more frustrated