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How much do our players do away from training?
I've been watching the Netflix series "Receiver" about the wide receiver position.
There was another series on Quarterbacks that I hadn't noticed as my account is new.
One thing I've picked up on watching the footage of these players featured is they are dedicated to educating themselves, watching plays and going over and over clips on their iPads at home. I know football clubs in the UK have sessions where a coach or the manager will sit the team down, or maybe the attack/defence and show them specific clips on an upcoming opponent, but I just cant imagine Jamilu Collins and Perry Ng sat on their sofas going over and over individual wingers and how they play, what they do in certain situations etc.
Does anyone know any different? Am I wrong?
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Re: How much do our players do away from training?
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Originally Posted by
Dembe
I've been watching the Netflix series "Receiver" about the wide receiver position.
There was another series on Quarterbacks that I hadn't noticed as my account is new.
One thing I've picked up on watching the footage of these players featured is they are dedicated to educating themselves, watching plays and going over and over clips on their iPads at home. I know football clubs in the UK have sessions where a coach or the manager will sit the team down, or maybe the attack/defence and show them specific clips on an upcoming opponent, but I just cant imagine Jamilu Collins and Perry Ng sat on their sofas going over and over individual wingers and how they play, what they do in certain situations etc.
Does anyone know any different? Am I wrong?
Most of them spend most free time with the tattooist. Ask Joe Rodon.
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Re: How much do our players do away from training?
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Originally Posted by
Dembe
I've been watching the Netflix series "Receiver" about the wide receiver position.
There was another series on Quarterbacks that I hadn't noticed as my account is new.
One thing I've picked up on watching the footage of these players featured is they are dedicated to educating themselves, watching plays and going over and over clips on their iPads at home. I know football clubs in the UK have sessions where a coach or the manager will sit the team down, or maybe the attack/defence and show them specific clips on an upcoming opponent, but I just cant imagine Jamilu Collins and Perry Ng sat on their sofas going over and over individual wingers and how they play, what they do in certain situations etc.
Does anyone know any different? Am I wrong?
Managers like Julian Nagelsmann send out all the team tactics in digital format a few days before each game.
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Wales-Bales
Managers like Julian Nagelsmann send out all the team tactics in digital format a few days before each game.
I get that, but do you think the players do things off their own backs?
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Dembe
I get that, but do you think the players do things off their own backs?
They don't have to really, most clubs have analytics teams who do it for them. You've probably seen them before a sub comes on and they show them some tactical charts to refresh their memories.
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Wales-Bales
They don't have to really, most clubs have analytics teams who do it for them.
I am so grateful you read my post and replied to what I wrote.
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Dembe
I am so grateful you read my post and replied to what I wrote.
What benefit is there to doing it off their own backs? The last thing you want is a player doing their own thing.
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I think there's a lot more focus on film and set plays in American sports. I imagine it probably helps that something like American Football is far more rigid than association football
I imagine much of the clips they watch will have been provided by the coaching/analysis department
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City123
I think there's a lot more focus on film and set plays in American sports. I imagine it probably helps that something like American Football is far more rigid than association football
I imagine much of the clips they watch will have been provided by the coaching/analysis department
You can almost predict every move in modern football, especially if you focus on one team. It's all about percentages and minimising errors. That's probably why a lot of people found the Euros boring, and thought individual players weren't very good.
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Wales-Bales
What benefit is there to doing it off their own backs? The last thing you want is a player doing their own thing.
I am going to stick my neck out and say the clips these nfl players watch at home are provided by their analytics team or whatever the **** they call them, but they put in the extra time and effort at home and don't just leave it at a few sessions at training etc.
My insinuation was that football players do absolutely **** all extra. I found it interesting that high level players in the nfl are happy to do all this in their spare time.
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City123
I think there's a lot more focus on film and set plays in American sports. I imagine it probably helps that something like American Football is far more rigid than association football
I imagine much of the clips they watch will have been provided by the coaching/analysis department
Yes id imagine all clips are provided, but can you imagine football players going to the same effort?
I think they have far more to learn in the nfl.
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Originally Posted by
Dembe
I've been watching the Netflix series "Receiver" about the wide receiver position.
There was another series on Quarterbacks that I hadn't noticed as my account is new.
One thing I've picked up on watching the footage of these players featured is they are dedicated to educating themselves, watching plays and going over and over clips on their iPads at home. I know football clubs in the UK have sessions where a coach or the manager will sit the team down, or maybe the attack/defence and show them specific clips on an upcoming opponent, but I just cant imagine Jamilu Collins and Perry Ng sat on their sofas going over and over individual wingers and how they play, what they do in certain situations etc.
Does anyone know any different? Am I wrong?
With regard to offensive players in American football (WR/QB) they're studying their own playbook. Typically, the playbook for a team on offence will have over a hundred different plays - they HAVE to get each play right.
There's little chance of studying opposing teams' plays, there's simply too many. Defensive players have to just try and read the situation there and then - man-for-man marking or zonal marking.
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Dembe
Yes id imagine all clips are provided, but can you imagine football players going to the same effort?
I actually prefer the olden days when the players used to turn up half cut and did crazy things like scoring from the halfway line. :biggrin:
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Rock_Flock_of_Five
With regard to offensive players in American football (WR/QB) they're studying their own playbook. Typically, the playbook for a team on offence will have over a hundred different plays - they HAVE to get each play right.
There's little chance of studying opposing teams' plays, there's simply too many. Defensive players have to just try and read the situation there and then - man-for-man marking or zonal marking.
The clip I saw the player was watching an opposition play over and over, I get that they have tons of different plays to learn but this wasn't what they were showing.
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Dembe
Yes id imagine all clips are provided, but can you imagine football players going to the same effort?
I think they have far more to learn in the nfl.
Some will, some won't. Imagine its the same in most sports, though there is definitely more importance placed on such things in America
Definitely more to learn in the NFL. The playbook for starers, soccer may be getting more predictable, but its nowhere near having a playbook like they do in the NFL
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City123
Some will, some won't. Imagine its the same in most sports, though there is definitely more importance placed on such things in America
Definitely more to learn in the NFL. The playbook for starers, soccer may be getting more predictable, but its nowhere near having a playbook like they do in the NFL
Some of the moves they practice in the Rondos are quite technical, and they look spectacular when the top teams manage to execute them perfectly during matches.
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Wales-Bales
Some of the moves they practice in the Rondos are quite technical, and they look spectacular when the top teams manage to execute them perfectly during matches.
Oh absolutely, but its not quite comparable to the playbook they have in the NFL, just a natural reaction to how they've developed as sports
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City123
Some will, some won't. Imagine its the same in most sports, though there is definitely more importance placed on such things in America
Definitely more to learn in the NFL. The playbook for starers, soccer may be getting more predictable, but its nowhere near having a playbook like they do in the NFL
Yeah you're right mate, I suppose football has more of an unpredictability about it with individual skill and the option to pass/cross/shoot rather than just running to create space and catch a ball. I've got one episode left, probably start the Quarterback series then, it was out before this version. iNTERESTING SHOW TBH. I am not editing that **** up..
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Wales-Bales
I actually prefer the olden days when the players used to turn up half cut and did crazy things like scoring from the halfway line. :biggrin:
I hope you aren't implying that Mark Hudson was half cut when scored that goal against Derby
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RichardM
I hope you aren't implying that Mark Hudson was half cut when scored that goal against Derby
I did think about inserting a comma, but I thought **** it, let's live life on the edge.
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Wales-Bales
I did think about inserting a comma, but I thought **** it, let's live life on the edge.
Go,od thin,king,
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Dembe
Yeah you're right mate, I suppose football has more of an unpredictability about it with individual skill and the option to pass/cross/shoot rather than just running to create space and catch a ball. I've got one episode left, probably start the Quarterback series then, it was out before this version. iNTERESTING SHOW TBH. I am not editing that **** up..
Might watch those series' I find a lot of stuff around American football quite interesting - the college system, draft and so on
The game itself? Not for me
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City123
Might watch those series' I find a lot of stuff around American football quite interesting - the college system, draft and so on
The game itself? Not for me
It's all condensed so it's definitely more watchable. Follows a few players from each position. Was pretty good to be fair.
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Dembe
It's all condensed so it's definitely more watchable. Follows a few players from each position. Was pretty good to be fair.
Did they explain why they have so many players kitted up for a game. I think it's 46?
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Wales-Bales
Did they explain why they have so many players kitted up for a game. I think it's 46?
might even be 53? and no.
