An old school experienced Manager would organise, calm them down, and help them build some confidence in themselves and what they are being told.
The players were mostly scared and hiding.
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An old school experienced Manager would organise, calm them down, and help them build some confidence in themselves and what they are being told.
The players were mostly scared and hiding.
What makes you think that only an old school manager is capable of organising, calming down and building confidence in players? I don't know if you have children, but would you insist on your kids having old school teachers in school as they're the only ones capable of organising, calming down and building confidence in pupils?Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Kids are grown up, but was happy for them to have had firm but fair teachers with a bit of respect to educate them, in high school, and primary school, a softer approach while they were young.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
I think it would be the best option for this group of players, they look a bit soft to me and lost at times. I look back at how Warnock turned that relegation-threatened team into winners with a few additions and promotion the next season and think we need someone like that to get some belief back. Probably an old-fashioned view but that's how I see the situation.
Their record and history of success?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Like Mick McCarthy?Quote:
Originally Posted by EastbourneBlue
I think there's a belief that Warnock is a firm ranter, but I also think he's a manager that's on your side and will happily put an arm around players who need it. That is probably more important than being firm.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Exactly someone who can get us out of the mess we are in. :xmasthumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by EastbourneBlue
I think Mowbray puts his arms around the players that need that too. He strikes me as firm but fair and would allow players to take the mick, I think we need someone who has picked up a team that is way down in confidence and will go back to basics and make the instructions easy to follow. It almost always starts with making a team solid first them work from thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
I'm sure. My point is that such characteristics aren't merely confined to older, experienced people. Not in the slightest. Neither do I think they are generally the best managers of people.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Not so much his age but his experience is why I think he would fit, I also thought Cooper would have been brilliant, but after the last few games and the first six, I'm leaning more towards a Mowbray type.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
No more like MowbrayQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Is the problem the teachers or the kids? In school it’s definitely the kids, usually the ones whose parents are clueless muppets who should have been sterilised. Not scared of anything these days are they? But like our players….just happy to pick up there 20k a weekQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Bilic in January "should it go wrong" with Riza
apparently 🤷*♂️
Is he a Mowbray?
https://x.com/PaulAbbandonato/status...79067438387368
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Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
Would he still wait and see?
I'd prefer Mowbray but he would be a step in the right direction, if it's not already too late by then.
Surely we’ve learned our lesson and will only go for proven championship managers moving forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Though to be fair I suspect they offered others the job and were turned down
Not according to those in the know, they chatted with a few and weren't impressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by EastbourneBlue
When Riza started it was as if they were glad Bulut had gone and got behind him and started to play as a TEAM. No they've settled down again and for me a lot of the players except O'Dowda, Rhino, and Robertson weren't giving 100% and they certainly weren't playing as a team.
I think an experienced Manager like Mowbray would sort out any cliques and have them all communicating and working for each other at least. I would bet there are problems in the dressing room that the team were not unified and doing everything for each other and a novice Manager won't find it easy to put that right.
They won't appoint him now anyway, I suppose Bilic would probably also be able to get through to them and pull them away from the bottom.
What we need is about 15 players that can play at this level :hehe:
I think we have fifteen on their day, but not a lot more than that so any injuries and we have a dip in quality. And they don't have enough of the right days !Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Respectfully, you're talking out of your arse. This lot have been shit for half a decade :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
There's one player who started last night that's good enough in the position they started in, one.
A worse squad finished top half last season, so these lot are underachieving.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
A decent Manager would get them mid-table, they are not playing as a team but like eleven players who met in the changing room.
Can you name a three-man forward line made up from the current squad and which would result in a greater goal tally?Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
The options are completely dire.
Now you've got me thinking because the only person who springs to mind is 'the invisible man'! they were all sh1te!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Weak, but we were last season, Tanner is now probably better than Bowler, or at least as good. I think we are missing Grant, he was underappreciated last year, but was a good solid hard hard-working player. O'Dowda is back though and not much worse than Grant I would say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
The defence is a shambles but I think the quality of the players is probably better than last year, it;'s got to be time for Daland and Fish to start getting some game time. The problem is it's hard to bring them into a team that is so disorganised, and without the players around them switched on enough to allow them to fit in smoothly.
A couple of weeks ago people were saying it was an amazing squad when we beat Plymouth and Portsmouth, but it wasn't it is a mid table squad in desperate need of Issac Davies and someone better than him again, who are badly underperforming.
But I understand it's very subjective and some will feel different, as they have looked so bad over the last six games or so.
Not really, Davies would improve it as would Tanner with O'Dowda, but we need a striker desperately and in the past the whole team used to score a few each, but thats gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
They seem to be back to being unable to keep the ball after a throw in. Nobody seems interested in making a little run to try and open some space.
Interestingly last night the commentator mentioned straight away how he was surprised that Cardiff kicked off and immediately passed it backwards and within a few passes it was back to the goal keeper. Why not have a go at attacking straight away.