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Good start, this should be fun!
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Where's your usual stalkers , have they fallen away ?
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Horowitz looks and sound uncertain and nervous folk should watch this never mind the City
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life on mars
Where's your usual stalkers , have they fallen away ?
It looks like they've disappeared from the scene with their hoax Steele dossier.
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life on mars
Horowitz looks and sound uncertain and nervous folk should watch this never mind the City
There was some scary stuff going on during Crossfire Hurricane, with absolutely no accountability.
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Wales-Bales
There was some scary stuff going on during Crossfire Hurricane, with absolutely no accountability.
Incredible.
Looks like you were right all along.
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life on mars
Incredible.
Looks like you were right all along.
You can tell he was right, usual suspects gone missing 😂😂😂😂🎤 I listened to a couple of hours of this today as a background whilst doing some work, what a bluddy fiasco 🤔
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Nelsonca61
I listened to a couple of hours of this today as a background whilst doing some work, what a bluddy fiasco ��
A fraud was committed on the FISA court regarding the Carter Page FISA warrant:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's the video... <a href="https://twitter.com/tedcruz?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tedcruz</a>: “A lawyer at the FBI creates fraudulent evidence, alters an email that is in turn used as the basis for a sworn statement for the court that the court relies on. Am I stating that accurately?"<br><br>IG HOROWITZ: “That is correct. That is what occurred.” <a href="https://t.co/e1435JSqLN">pic.twitter.com/e1435JSqLN</a></p>— Jason Howerton (@jason_howerton) <a href="https://twitter.com/jason_howerton/status/1204841627006754819?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Nelsonca61
You can tell he was right, usual suspects gone missing 😂😂😂😂🎤 I listened to a couple of hours of this today as a background whilst doing some work, what a bluddy fiasco 🤔
I suspect the only people unable to see the irony of three people with over 30k posts between them talking in an echo chamber about "Usual Suspects and stalkers" are the three amigos themselves!
Apologies for spending my day navigating the roadworks of the M4 and the traffic jams of West London to freeze on a terrace for a couple of hours rather than annoy nurses by whooping and hollering at Lindsey Graham's inane utterances though!
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life on mars
Incredible.
Looks like you were right all along.
Is this the subject where two days ago you would love to make a contribution to if only you had bought a "Conspiracy Theory for Dummies" guidebook but have now concluded that the tosh that WB has been pedalling for the last three years was right all along?
You know the assertions that Trump Tower was wiretapped, that deep state sought to interfere and invalidate the 2016 election to the benefit of Hilary Clinton and it has been trying to remove Trump ever since. That there was an informant in the Trump campaign. That the three Trump campaign officials either jailed or awaiting sentencing were entrapped and the decision to open an investigation into the Trump Campaign was politically motivated and unjustified.
The independent Inspector General, whose report was supposed to be Judgement Day debunked and rebutted this nonsense in that report and subsequent testimony. In doing so he had to resist pressure from the non-independent Attorney General and his prosecutor to reach a different conclusion.
The procedural failings of the FBI when obtaining a warrant for surveillance of someone who left the Trump campaign 6 weeks earlier give some succour to those who only recently were belittling actual criminal acts as "process crimes". But if you think all of the above somehow validates the constant nonsensical outpourings over the last three years correct you are indeed as clueless as you so starkly stated a couple of days ago in a different thread.
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cyril evans awaydays
Is this the subject where two days ago you would love to make a contribution to if only you had bought a "Conspiracy Theory for Dummies" guidebook but have now concluded that the tosh that WB has been pedalling for the last three years was right all along?
You know the assertions that Trump Tower was wiretapped, that deep state sought to interfere and invalidate the 2016 election to the benefit of Hilary Clinton and it has been trying to remove Trump ever since. That there was an informant in the Trump campaign. That the three Trump campaign officials either jailed or awaiting sentencing were entrapped and the decision to open an investigation into the Trump Campaign was politically motivated and unjustified.
The independent Inspector General, whose report was supposed to be Judgement Day debunked and rebutted this nonsense in that report and subsequent testimony. In doing so he had to resist pressure from the non-independent Attorney General and his prosecutor to reach a different conclusion.
The procedural failings of the FBI when obtaining a warrant for surveillance of someone who left the Trump campaign 6 weeks earlier give some succour to those who only recently were belittling actual criminal acts as "process crimes". But if you think all of the above somehow validates the constant nonsensical outpourings over the last three years correct you are indeed as clueless as you so starkly stated a couple of days ago in a different thread.
Not to be gushing but I think this is the single greatest piece of writing I’ve ever seen on here.
Bravo 👏 😂😂😂😂👍👍👍
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Not to be gushing but I think this is the single greatest piece of writing I’ve ever seen on here.
Bravo �� ��������������
Written by someone who wanted to see innocent people sent to jail just because of his hatred for Donald Trump. It tells you everything you need to know about the man.
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cyril evans awaydays
Is this the subject where two days ago you would love to make a contribution to if only you had bought a "Conspiracy Theory for Dummies" guidebook but have now concluded that the tosh that WB has been pedalling for the last three years was right all along?
You know the assertions that Trump Tower was wiretapped, that deep state sought to interfere and invalidate the 2016 election to the benefit of Hilary Clinton and it has been trying to remove Trump ever since. That there was an informant in the Trump campaign. That the three Trump campaign officials either jailed or awaiting sentencing were entrapped and the decision to open an investigation into the Trump Campaign was politically motivated and unjustified.
The independent Inspector General, whose report was supposed to be Judgement Day debunked and rebutted this nonsense in that report and subsequent testimony. In doing so he had to resist pressure from the non-independent Attorney General and his prosecutor to reach a different conclusion.
The procedural failings of the FBI when obtaining a warrant for surveillance of someone who left the Trump campaign 6 weeks earlier give some succour to those who only recently were belittling actual criminal acts as "process crimes". But if you think all of the above somehow validates the constant nonsensical outpourings over the last three years correct you are indeed as clueless as you so starkly stated a couple of days ago in a different thread.
Mate, the Steele dossier was a hoax. Trump Russia Collusion was a hoax. The Mueller Report was a hoax. It's all built on the fruit of the poison tree. This simple fact seems to have passed you by. Everything you have ever written depended on the Steele Dossier being true. It wasn't. Innocent people are going to become very rich because of the malfeasance of those who were as equally dumb as you are.
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Wales-Bales
Mate, the Steele dossier was a hoax. Trump Russia Collusion was a hoax. The Mueller Report was a hoax. It's all built on the fruit of the poison tree. This simple fact seems to have passed you by. Everything you have ever written depended on the Steele Dossier being true. It wasn't. Innocent people are going to become very rich because of the malfeasance of those who were as equally dumb as you are.
Coming from the guy who trumpeted:
Pizzagate;
bigged up the Seth Rich killing;
pronounced that Trump has solved mass shootings and aviation disasters;
said Pakistani IT guy or crowdstrike/Ukrainians hacked DNC servers;
said Carter Page was an FBI informant called UCE-1;
that the Russian lawyer who met with Trump Jr was a Democrat plant to get FISA warrant on Trump and Obama/Lynch had FISA warrants issued on the whole team along with the recently debunked stuff you won't know how much your arrogant dismissal of my dumbness from your superior informed intellect means to me!
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cyril evans awaydays
Coming from the guy who trumpeted:
Pizzagate;
bigged up the Seth Rich killing;
pronounced that Trump has solved mass shootings and aviation disasters;
said Pakistani IT guy or crowdstrike/Ukrainians hacked DNC servers;
said Carter Page was an FBI informant called UCE-1;
that the Russian lawyer who met with Trump Jr was a Democrat plant to get FISA warrant on Trump and Obama/Lynch had FISA warrants issued on the whole team along with the recently debunked stuff you won't know how much your arrogant dismissal of my dumbness from your superior informed intellect means to me!
What is it like living in a fantasy world far removed from reality?
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Wales-Bales
What is it like living in a fantasy world far removed from reality?
Ok you got me. I didn't mean the bit I said about what you write meaning a lot to me!
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cyril evans awaydays
Ok you got me. I didn't mean the bit I said about what you write meaning a lot to me!
You got the Steele Dossier totally wrong, which means everything that you have ever written these past 3 years has been a big steaming pile of BS. Wind your neck in fella! :-)
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Wales-Bales
You got the Steele Dossier totally wrong, which means everything that you have ever written these past 3 years has been a big steaming pile of BS. Wind your neck in fella! :-)
All you need to do now is find something that backs up the words you just put in my mouth I suppose!
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cyril evans awaydays
All you need to do now is find something that backs up the words you just put in my mouth I suppose!
You and lardy own the Trump Russia Collusion hoax. Don't back away from it now, it was fantastic entertainment!
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cyril evans awaydays
Ok you got me. I didn't mean the bit I said about what you write meaning a lot to me!
:hehe:
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Heisenberg
:hehe:
One thing we have worked out is the TDS Crew are feckin' nuts :hehe:
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Wales-Bales
Written by someone who wanted to see innocent people sent to jail just because of his hatred for Donald Trump. It tells you everything you need to know about the man.
I’m sorry WB abut you’ve got no moral high ground on this subject.
You perpetuated that Pizzagate nonsense, you tried to dilute the issue regarding that arsehole who drove into a crowd in Carolina, you’ve as Cyril said defended the actions of criminals like Flynn and that Papdoulous fella by minimising their crimes.
I’ve no doubt there’s wrong doing on both sides but all your alt right defence of one side good and the other evil gives you no right as I said to take the moral high ground .
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CardiffIrish2
I’m sorry WB abut you’ve got no moral high ground on this subject.
You perpetuated that Pizzagate nonsense, you tried to dilute the issue regarding that arsehole who drove into a crowd in Carolina, you’ve as Cyril said defended the actions of criminals like Flynn and that Papdoulous fella by minimising their crimes.
I’ve no doubt there’s wrong doing on both sides but all your alt right defence of one side good and the other evil gives you no right as I said to take the moral high ground .
All I said about pizzagate is nothing happened in the basement of that pizza parlour, it was just a distraction. It was always about Epstein and Hollywood, etc. It's also going to come out that when the mysterious "Russian spy" offered Papadopoulos the Clinton emails, he said something along the lines that it was illegal and the guy was nuts, and they then hid this exculpatory information from the court. Likewise, Flynn hasn't been prosecuted yet, and there was lots of dodgy stuff going on there too. Don't believe everything that you read in the press, or you too could end up like lardy & cyril :wink:
PS are you saying IG Horowitz is alt-right? :yikes:
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Wales-Bales
All I said about pizzagate is nothing happened in the basement of that pizza parlour, it was just a distraction. It was always about Epstein and Hollywood, etc. It's also going to come out that when the mysterious "Russian spy" offered Papadopoulos the Clinton emails, he said something along the lines that it was illegal and the guy was nuts, and they then hid this exculpatory information from the court. Likewise, Flynn hasn't been prosecuted yet, and there was lots of dodgy stuff going on there too. Don't believe everything that you read in the press, or you too could end up like lardy & cyril :wink:
PS are you saying IG Horowitz is alt-right? :yikes:
You can't stop yourself can you?
Flynn has been prosecuted and pleaded guilty to wilfully and knowingly making false, fictitious and fraudulent statements to the FBI regarding conversations with Russia's ambassador. He is awaiting sentencing after plea bargaining by providing information to the Mueller Investigation. His sentencing has been deferred until after the bombshell IG Report at the request of his defence. Presumably when the IG said he saw no evidence of entrapment for Papadopolous, Manafort or.....Flynn then this will be considered in his sentencing. What is definitely not happening is that he is awaiting prosecution unless you have factual evidence to the contrary?
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cyril evans awaydays
You can't stop yourself can you?
Flynn has been prosecuted and pleaded guilty to wilfully and knowingly making false, fictitious and fraudulent statements to the FBI regarding conversations with Russia's ambassador. He is awaiting sentencing after plea bargaining by providing information to the Mueller Investigation. His sentencing has been deferred until after the bombshell IG Report at the request of his defence. Presumably when the IG said he saw no evidence of entrapment for Papadopolous, Manafort or.....Flynn then this will be considered in his sentencing. What is definitely not happening is that he is awaiting prosecution unless you have factual evidence to the contrary?
The Mueller team have just been caught fabricating, and fraudulently altering existing evidence, so all bets are off as we are are now subject to the fruit of the poison tree. I am sure Cardiff Irish will confirm that everything these guys touched is now potentially tainted. Flynn has got himself a clever lawer who specialises in this sort of thing, so it's not over until the fat lady sings.
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Wales-Bales
The Mueller team have just been caught fabricating, and fraudulently altering existing evidence, so all bets are off as we are are now subject to the fruit of the poison tree. I am sure Cardiff Irish will confirm that everything these guys touched is now potentially tainted. Flynn has got himself a clever lawer who specialises in this sort of thing, so it's not over until the fat lady sings.
Can we at least agree that when you said Flynn hasn't been prosecuted yet that you were talking bollocks?
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cyril evans awaydays
Can we at least agree that when you said Flynn hasn't been prosecuted yet that you were talking bollocks?
If you look into the case, his previous defence council was conflicted, and it is also claimed they threatened to prosecute his son even though they knew they didn't have the evidence to do it. The Flynn 302's may have also been doctored, so there is plenty of material for Ms Powell to work with. The IG report only looked at the Page case, not Flynn, Papadopoulos or any of the others, so I would imagine they are all getting lawyered up right now. I'd even go as far to say that the validity of the Mueller investigation could also be in doubt, depending on how the cards fall.
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Wales-Bales
If you look into the case, his previous defence council was conflicted, and it is also claimed they threatened to prosecute his son even though they knew they didn't have the evidence to do it. The Flynn 302's may have also been doctored, so there is plenty of material for Ms Powell to work with. The IG report only looked at the Page case, not Flynn, Papadopoulos or any of the others, so I would imagine they are all getting lawyered up right now. I'd even go as far to say that the validity of the Mueller investigation could also be in doubt, depending on how the cards fall.
Would you even go as far to say that when you said Flynn has not been prosecuted that this was absolute bollocks?
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cyril evans awaydays
Would you even go as far to say that when you said Flynn has not been prosecuted that this was absolute bollocks?
Not if the case is thrown out, and if a second occurance of evidence tampering emerges, then the shit is going to hit the fan. It would be very harsh on you though, coming so soon after your beloved Steele Dossier turned out to have less value than used toilet paper.
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Not if the case is thrown out, and if a second occurance of evidence tampering emerges, then the shit is going to hit the fan. It would be very harsh on you though, coming so soon after your beloved Steele Dossier turned out to have less value than used toilet paper.
That's what I love about these conversations. Your narcissistic behaviour where everything you say is prophetic or truthful can't cope with a simple observation that you made a fundamental error by saying the Michael Flynn, who has pleaded guilty to crimes has not yet been prosecuted. Despite the definition of prosecute as being to institute or conduct legal proceedings against (a person or organization).
So would you say on the basis of the facts that when you said that Flynn has not been prosecuted that this was absolute bollocks?
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cyril evans awaydays
That's what I love about these conversations. Your narcissistic behaviour where everything you say is prophetic or truthful can't cope with a simple observation that you made a fundamental error by saying the Michael Flynn, who has pleaded guilty to crimes has not yet been prosecuted. Despite the definition of prosecute as being to institute or conduct legal proceedings against (a person or organization).
So would you say on the basis of the facts that when you said that Flynn has not been prosecuted that this was absolute bollocks?
I predict this trial will result in a motion to dismiss and a clean record for General Flynn. The prosecution will be deemed illegal and scrubbed from the record. No matter how much you hate President Trump & General Flynn you lose again :wave:
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Wales-Bales
I predict this trial will result in a motion to dismiss and a clean record for General Flynn. The prosecution will be deemed illegal and scrubbed from the record. No matter how much you hate President Trump & General Flynn you lose again :wave:
There you go again.
It's not a trial it's a sentencing as we have already passed the structural phases of US justice that involve prosecution and the defendant pleading guilty or not guilty.
Given those facts. How would you characterise your stark statement that General Flynn has not been prosecuted? Bollocks or not-bollocks?
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cyril evans awaydays
There you go again.
It's not a trial it's a sentencing as we have already passed the structural phases of US justice that involve prosecution and the defendant pleading guilty or not guilty.
Given those facts. How would you characterise your stark statement that General Flynn has not been prosecuted? Bollocks or not-bollocks?
I believe there is a strong possibility that it is a manufactured prosecution and there will be a motion to dismiss granted involuntarily with prejudice, and you lose again. Once you start losing, its a hard habit to break :hehe:
And while you are here, I would be interested to know how you got so easily duped by the hoax Steele Dossier? What made you think that any of it could be anything more than bar talk?
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Wales-Bales
I believe there is a strong possibility that it is a manufactured prosecution and there will be a motion to dismiss granted involuntarily with prejudice, and you lose again. Once you start losing, its a hard habit to break :hehe:
And while you are here, I would be interested to know how you got so easily duped by the hoax Steele Dossier? What made you think that any of it could be anything more than bar talk?
So he has been prosecuted rather than he hasn't. Is that what you are saying and what you were saying quite a few threads back was actually......tosh?
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cyril evans awaydays
So he has been prosecuted rather than he hasn't. Is that what you are saying and what you were saying quite a few threads back was actually......tosh?
Are you deflecting again? Sorry, but I've got some bad news for you. This is only the beginning. You'll need to up your game if your intention is to defend these crooks at every turn.
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Wales-Bales
Are you deflecting again? Sorry, but I've got some bad news for you. This is only the beginning. You'll need to up your game if your intention is to defend these crooks at every turn.
We are not pming you know. There are a lot of other people who will be able to recognise whether your statement that Michael Flynn has not been prosecuted when facts show that this is....how can I put it politely...bollocks! Still if you have anything to show from your superior intellect that this is not true now is the time to show your hand I suppose!
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cyril evans awaydays
We are not pming you know. There are a lot of other people who will be able to recognise whether your statement that Michael Flynn has not been prosecuted when facts show that this is....how can I put it politely...bollocks! Still if you have anything to show from your superior intellect that this is not true now is the time to show your hand I suppose!
It's looking increasingly like a made-up case against an American war hero. For some reason only known to yourself, you continually try to besmirch his good name. Let's hope General Flynn has the last laugh, and you are proved wrong yet again!
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Wales-Bales
It's looking increasingly like a made-up case against an American war hero. For some reason only known to yourself, you continually try to besmirch his good name. Let's hope General Flynn has the last laugh, and you are proved wrong yet again!
It's not Flynn's integrity I am on about. If you had a bit of self-awareness you might have worked out it's yours!