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The thing that bugs me about this whole "divorce bill" is it's completely unhinged.
"You want a divorce? Give me loads of money".
Ok, in that case let's look at dividing the assets up then. Oh wait, EU seem to be very quiet about that.
Fecking going to rue the day this stupid country voted to leave the EU
Don't say you were not told
Disagree. For me it confirms we were right to leave such a vindictive, small minded and undemocratic organisation.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
The desire to protect the EU project is greater than any desire to have a fair break which aids both parties.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gwapo
Brexit can work for EU and Britain if the commitment is there by both sides. Brexit works for Britain, other nations could well then also leave. EU doesn't want that. EU sees second largest contributor leave. That's a massive loss to them. Ok, try to gouge as much money as they can. Try to make Brexit fail.
It's staggering how indoctrinated Ireland are.
Look at the Treaty of Lisbon referendums. Ireland voted against initially; "wrote decision - vote again". How utterly farcical and undemocratic.
There's more important things than the Brexit saga to worry about. Artificial Intelligence will make most of humanity redundant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRj3...ature=youtu.be
Don't hold your breath.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzlsvFN_5HI
The EU is an organisation with assets and liabilities.The EU has been clear that when the UK leaves, it is expected to pay off its share of the liabilities https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...u-divorce-billQuote:
Originally Posted by Igovernor
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a8021601.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Quite ironic from a country who chops hands off and treats women like shite!!
And conveniently ignore dividing up the assets, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
don't believe the hype organ morgan
automation and robots have been with us since the 1980' s and i should know as my work involves programming them to some extent !!
robots will create more jobs than lose in an industrial sense . i can't answer for people who sit on there arse in office jobs tho !
as for brexit no one knows what's going to happen not even the government !
I dont use twitter, but read that there were pro brexit bots posting all over there before the vote. All trace back to russia. Not sure if its bullshit or a wacky conspiracy.
Brexit referendum not going the way a minority wanted - must be russian bots.
Trump winning - must be russian bots.
Me not winning lottery - must be russian bots interfering with ball drawing.
Aunt Nellie's dog died - must be russian bots poisoning mutts.
Twitter would be better suited to 28 characters - 1 per IQ point of the average twitter user.
Well I think we are fecked
You might be correct. But powerful voices - Elon Musk and Stephen Hawking, to name but two - believe otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
Musk is somewhat of a fruitloop in a number of ways. Hawking might know about black holes but industrial automation? Eh...
I sit on my aRse in an office job!!! :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
What assets - other than ones that are part and parcel of the UK and will stay with the UK when we leave?Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
Do 'we' have a claim to the 13th floor of some EU building in Brussels? If not - what?
I bet you drink alone don't you.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
organ we are in the middle of another industrial revolution . for example electric cars and flying cars are now here now not in the future but now . the entire british automotive manufacturing world is panicking as they don't enough skills especially in automation world to keep up what#s required right now . whether brexit is good or not for the uk future engineering can't keep up with pace what's happening right now . interesting times ahead for all for us . i,m positive for the uk manufacturing world after brexit can't speak for the financial and service world
I'd suggest we've a stake in each and every tangible asset owned by the EU. Can be property, can be other things. That can't be ignored.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by dembethewarrior
I just find it highly amusing that apparently 419 Russian bots ( one of whom turned out to actually be a Scottish security guard ) were magically able to convince the majority to vote Brexit.
That's you off Trotskys Christmas card listQuote:
Originally Posted by El Gwapo
The economy was growing faster then other G7 countries and The pound was in good shape pre referendum.
But apparently it’s worth giving tne economy a kick in the bollocks just to gain back control.
Whatever the **** that means.
I could swear if you read to the end of my post it says something about not being sure..and wacky conspiracies.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
Have a night off ffs.
You literally log on, shit all over the board, log off. Give us a break is it.
We're 'given two weeks' and this is seen as an ultimatum even though no-one thought to have a plan in place before this all began, not even UKIP, even though it was their reason for being. (Although we shouldn't expect too much from those jingoistic ****wumps). Now we've sent in the clowns to negotiate. What a depressing shambles.
It's going to bite us on the arse big time , a total disaster awaitsQuote:
Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays
Bloody silly old rule brittania crap
This pretty much sums it up for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays
It is absolutely clear now that nobody was prepared for the result.
The remain campaign thought we’d remain, the leave campaign thought we’d remain, my guess is that those who voted leave thought we’d remain.
Nobody had a plan to deal with a leave vote then, they don’t appear to have one now. Johnson, Farage and Gove were all giving it the big one about leaving, but now they’ve achieved the result they didn’t expect, and i suspect didn’t really want, have left it for other, even more incompetent arseholes to sort out.
As for controlling outer borders, our border with Europe is Calais. Do you think the French are going to be more or less vigilant in letting migrants out of their country and into ours?
What the hell is going to happen in Ireland? If anyone’s got any ideas, please let Theresa May know, because she doesn’t have any.
Quite a telling quote from:the Irish prime minister
“Mr Varadkar added: "It's 18 months since the referendum, it's 10 years since people who wanted a referendum started agitating for one.
"Sometimes it doesn't seem like they have thought all this through."
Farage the arsehole and the right wing of the Tory party had control of the agenda , throw in the xenophobic media and bobs your uncleQuote:
Originally Posted by TH63
Nightmare
Gove is a horrible git
Yeah less owwwl tell "em to buggery off, we got Dunkirk, Blitz Spirit, Queen Muvver, Pearly King, Feet n Inches, Lambeth Walk, Fish n Chips, Pwopah Beer, Up ve Ammers, The faaakin Empire, White Vans, Made in Bwittun, an I'm wavin me Union Flag like we did in the Wawers, and before faaaaakin nointeen seventy freeee-aaaah.
Laaaahvley.
:rolleyeswtfsmiley:
That map of the world will soon be turning pink again, you wait and see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vimto
I must say that, having read this thread, all Theresa May needs to do is send in some of the experts on everything we've got on here to the negotiations and that'll be Brexit sorted in a couple of hours :thumbup:.
Bob, normally I’d agree with your sentiment.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
But in this case, I really do believe that those of us posting on this thread would be hard pressed to make a bigger clusterfvck out of this than the bunch of muppets who are currently leading the negotiations.
Social media and the right wing press convinced people to vote Brexit. People have been successfully convinced for years that British values have been impinged by immigrants, who are either here for jobs or benefits.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
I've lost count of the number of times I've corrected 'friends' on Facebook when they post bollocks about poppy displays, military heroes being spat on, Nativity plays being stopped, Christmas no longer being called Christmas etc etc etc etc. All of it is absolute bollocks but people believe it, and some actually want to believe it even when proved wrong.
Take away the utter fools who have been convinced that Brexit will make a difference in this regard and Brexit would not have happened.
My dad voted Brexit so we can return to imperial measurements and pounds, shillings and pence, the idiot. He reckons he read that was a promise somewhere.
I have always maintained that, had we had a factual debate during the referendum Brexit would not have happened. We've seen that support for Brexit has waned as people realise the consequences. We've been duped. Simple as.
Agree with every word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
I had a similar conversation with someone close to me who cited “all those immigrants in Calais”, my response was “exactly. They’re in Calais not Cardiff”
It sure is. A cluster-shambles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays
fwro the European chappies wroughly to the grwound centuwian
Legally we have no obligation to pay anything. It's quite strange how many EU supporters are happy to take their side on these negotiations, despite how reasonable the UK is being and how unreasonable the EU bureaucrats are being. Most peculiar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
It surely has to be a case of " we want a trade deal, they want us to pay them alot of money " you have a deal in that statement allreadyQuote:
Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost
no trade deal, no money
No money, no trade deal