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The MEETINGS MAIN POINTS
Had my lamb roast dinner and noticed no-one has posted anything about this afternoon, so here goes.
Club losing £3 a month at the moment and have asked for £8 million, from the £250 million slush fund
Director of Football, WHY ! They already have their committee in place and want to go down the road of buying younger players to bring the age of the squad down. Plus possibly earn cash from sell ons.
Mick is looking at the squad and the academy, before making any player requests. He is impressed with some of the academy players in his short time here (I think he's been in background longer)
Sam Hamman is after £15 million, Michael Issacs is after £10 million, keep an eye on the press
Vinnie had a good offer to sell the club, but told um to take a hike.
Shirt sponsorship, 5 deals being looked at.
Ken thanked the fans for paying their £10 to watch the games and said every little helps. He stated, "PLEASE CONTINUE" to watch
Melmet added,like the fans, we do not like seeing the team lose ! Something had to give.
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Lots of positives there excellent bullet points.
Surprised long throws weren't discussed .
If you have it as PowerPoint , feel free to share.
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life on mars
Lots of positives there excellent bullet points.
Surprised long throws weren't discussed .
If you have it as PowerPoint , feel free to share.
You obviously don't know me :hehe: WTF is POWERPOINT ????
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Thankyou BT.
I think you need to enlarge of what you've told us.
Was Dalman positive or negative about the future?
What is going on with Isaacs and Sam?
What's happening with the Sala transfer money. Did he say?
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Had my lamb roast dinner and noticed no-one has posted anything about this afternoon, so here goes.
Club losing £3 a month at the moment and have asked for £8 million, from the £250 million slush fund
Director of Football, WHY ! They already have their committee in place and want to go down the road of buying younger players to bring the age of the squad down. Plus possibly earn cash from sell ons.
Mick is looking at the squad and the academy, before making any player requests. He is impressed with some of the academy players in his short time here (I think he's been in background longer)
Sam Hamman is after £15 million, Michael Issacs is after £10 million, keep an eye on the press
Vinnie had a good offer to sell the club, but told um to take a hike.
Shirt sponsorship, 5 deals being looked at.
Ken thanked the fans for paying their £10 to watch the games and said every little helps. He stated, "PLEASE CONTINUE" to watch
Melmet added,like the fans, we do not like seeing the team lose ! Something had to give.
I reckon even I could help them out with their £3 a month losses!
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Had my lamb roast dinner and noticed no-one has posted anything about this afternoon, so here goes.
Club losing £3 a month at the moment and have asked for £8 million, from the £250 million slush fund
Director of Football, WHY ! They already have their committee in place and want to go down the road of buying younger players to bring the age of the squad down. Plus possibly earn cash from sell ons.
Mick is looking at the squad and the academy, before making any player requests. He is impressed with some of the academy players in his short time here (I think he's been in background longer)
Sam Hamman is after £15 million, Michael Issacs is after £10 million, keep an eye on the press
Vinnie had a good offer to sell the club, but told um to take a hike.
Shirt sponsorship, 5 deals being looked at.
Ken thanked the fans for paying their £10 to watch the games and said every little helps. He stated, "PLEASE CONTINUE" to watch
Melmet added,like the fans, we do not like seeing the team lose ! Something had to give.
Regarding the transfer committee, it sounds like they see it as being a success :shrug:
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Is Mick really going to try out a kid or two, given he's only got 6 months?
Major risk and i'm sure we have enough players with experience who can cope, apart from a midfielder who can create opportunities.
Bagan I would think would be less of a risk and Mark Harris has played a few games so there's that box ticked.
Seemed obvious the cost cutting was a priority for some time so no surprise there.
People expecting the drastic measures for the club's development long term will be peeved no doubt.
Few surprises, including the vultures circling.
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Former Labour leader
Thankyou BT.
I think you need to enlarge of what you've told us.
Was Dalman positive or negative about the future?
What is going on with Isaacs and Sam?
What's happening with the Sala transfer money. Did he say?
How positive can anyone be in these horrific times, but they are all working hard for the club
Sam & Issac's are after the sums quoted, all Melmet would say, if those two don't go to the press soon, the club openly will.
Club are getting NO HELP from anyone, FIFA, UAFA, Prem, British or French police, but the club are building evidence up daily.
Sala's fund should be up and running in weeks, again with little help from outsiders
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Excuse my ignorance, why do Sam and Issacs think they are owed 15m and 10m?
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Director of football!
Long term planning!!!!
Development of youngsters!!!!!
.........someone get me a chair........
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J R Hartley
Excuse my ignorance, why do Sam and Issacs think they are owed 15m and 10m?
Sam is Sam
Issac's for his 2% of shares
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Divine Wright
Director of football! WHY, just bleeding money
Long term planning!!!! Don't get relegated
Development of youngsters!!!!! David Hughes is staying in place
.........someone get me a chair........
Hope this helps
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Thanks for the summary report.
Who was invited to the virtual meeting?
Any press - or was it just pitched at fan reps?
Just wondered if WOL or BBC likely to do a report as well as Bluetit and Since62.
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jon1959
Thanks for the summary report.
Who was invited to the virtual meeting?
Any press - or was it just pitched at fan reps?
Just wondered if WOL or BBC likely to do a report as well as Bluetit and Since62.
Yes, the press were there.
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Had my lamb roast dinner and noticed no-one has posted anything about this afternoon, so here goes.
Club losing £3 a month at the moment and have asked for £8 million, from the £250 million slush fund
Director of Football, WHY ! They already have their committee in place and want to go down the road of buying younger players to bring the age of the squad down. Plus possibly earn cash from sell ons.
Mick is looking at the squad and the academy, before making any player requests. He is impressed with some of the academy players in his short time here (I think he's been in background longer)
Sam Hamman is after £15 million, Michael Issacs is after £10 million, keep an eye on the press
Vinnie had a good offer to sell the club, but told um to take a hike.
Shirt sponsorship, 5 deals being looked at.
Ken thanked the fans for paying their £10 to watch the games and said every little helps. He stated, "PLEASE CONTINUE" to watch
Melmet added,like the fans, we do not like seeing the team lose ! Something had to give.
So Vinny had a "good" offer to sell the club but didn't budge?
It would be really interesting and helpful if it were revealed why he did not sell.
Is it a) because he wants a "great" offer and a "good" offer falls way short? (If so, he's inhabiting cloud cuckoo land once again, just like he did with his whacko red idea!)
Or, b) because he's still got some sort of weird and wonderful plan to hoist Cardiff into a top top club on a shoestring budget and with a dearth of good personnel at the helm?
Or, c) is he indulging some deep rooted Freudian obsession?
Whichever way he doesn't feel inclined to share the big picture with us mere fans. Are we all just stuck in limbo with him and his inner demons?
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Had my lamb roast dinner and noticed no-one has posted anything about this afternoon, so here goes.
Club losing £3 a month at the moment and have asked for £8 million, from the £250 million slush fund
Director of Football, WHY ! They already have their committee in place and want to go down the road of buying younger players to bring the age of the squad down. Plus possibly earn cash from sell ons.
Mick is looking at the squad and the academy, before making any player requests. He is impressed with some of the academy players in his short time here (I think he's been in background longer)
Sam Hamman is after £15 million, Michael Issacs is after £10 million, keep an eye on the press
Vinnie had a good offer to sell the club, but told um to take a hike.
Shirt sponsorship, 5 deals being looked at.
Ken thanked the fans for paying their £10 to watch the games and said every little helps. He stated, "PLEASE CONTINUE" to watch
Melmet added,like the fans, we do not like seeing the team lose ! Something had to give.
You missed out the Vince Alm b*llocking. I thought that was a highlight.
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Dorcus
So Vinny had a "good" offer to sell the club but didn't budge?
It would be really interesting and helpful if it were revealed why he did not sell.
Is it a) because he wants a "great" offer and a "good" offer falls way short? (If so, he's inhabiting cloud cuckoo land once again, just like he did with his whacko red idea!)
Or, b) because he's still got some sort of weird and wonderful plan to hoist Cardiff into a top top club on a shoestring budget and with a dearth of good personnel at the helm?
Or, c) is he indulging some deep rooted Freudian obsession?
Whichever way he doesn't feel inclined to share the big picture with us mere fans. Are we all just stuck in limbo with him and his inner demons?
Mehmet, cannot understand this vitriol against Vincent Tan. The man is keeping us going
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Enoch Mort
You missed out the Vince Alm b*llocking. I thought that was a highlight.
Not for me to comment, I'll leave that to the children :hehe:
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Enoch Mort
You missed out the Vince Alm b*llocking. I thought that was a highlight.
Glad that amused you.
More to the point why doesn't the Trust ask it's few hundred members ahead of these meetings if there is anything they would like raised? It's almost as if we don't matter as long as we pay our annual subs.
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Club losing £3 a month at the moment and have asked for £8 million, from the £250 million slush fund [Quote]
Got to be fair Tony this deal would be a cracker, quick calculation says it would keep us going for over 220 thousand years, bite their frigging hands off:hehe:
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BLUETIT
You obviously don't know me :hehe: WTF is POWERPOINT ????
:hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:
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lisvaneblue
Glad that amused you.
More to the point why doesn't the Trust ask it's few hundred members ahead of these meetings if there is anything they would like raised? It's almost as if we don't matter as long as we pay our annual subs.
I asked on here, but most of the questions had been asked by the time it reached little olde me
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BLUETIT
Hope this helps
Why ?
So that there is some thought put into the direction the club is going to take.
So that when one manager leaves and another joins we don't have to rip it up and start again......I hope to God you're not as dumb as you make out.
If they don't want bleed money from the club then sack Mehmet or (even though he seems like a nice guy) Choo.
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Was it just the coach drivers invited to this call Tone or any average fans :hehe:
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BLUETIT
I asked on here, but most of the questions had been asked by the time it reached little olde me
An e-mail to Trust members is the way to do it, not by posting on CCMB in the hope that we see it. One of the Trust's core USP's as part of membership is to give members a chance to get their questions to the CCFC executive.
Sad to say the Trust is going the same way as the Club....no long term plan....and if there happens to be one then share it
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BLUETIT
Director of Football, WHY ! They already have their committee in place and want to go down the road of buying younger players to bring the age of the squad down. Plus possibly earn cash from sell ons.
Innovative stuff! What can possibly go wrong? I'm amazed other clubs haven't thought of this approach.
:hehe:
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BLUETIT
How positive can anyone be in these horrific times, but they are all working hard for the club
Sam & Issac's are after the sums quoted, all Melmet would say, if those two don't go to the press soon, the club openly will.
Club are getting NO HELP from anyone, FIFA, UAFA, Prem, British or French police, but the club are building evidence up daily.
Sala's fund should be up and running in weeks, again with little help from outsiders
Thankyou. I find that it can take a few hours, even a few days, to process all the info from a heavy meeting.
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BLUETIT
Club are getting NO HELP from anyone, FIFA, UAFA, Prem, British or French police, but the club are building evidence up daily.
Evidence of what?
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Originally Posted by
lisvaneblue
An e-mail to Trust members is the way to do it, not by posting on CCMB in the hope that we see it. One of the Trust's core USP's as part of membership is to give members a chance to get their questions to the CCFC executive.
Sad to say the Trust is going the same way as the Club....no long term plan....and if there happens to be one then share it
If the Trust had received more notice that the meeting was going to happen and what the format/ agenda was we would have had that chance to ask members for their input. As it was I only received the invite to the Zoom meeting this morning ( I had known there was to be a meeting but no formal invite until then).
There will be a report of the meeting to members shortly and the opportunity to ask questions and get answers as to the details raised and discussed
Keith
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The Lone Gunman
Evidence of what?
Dave
The senior partner from the law firm (Capital Law) acting for the club in the dispute between CCFC and Nantes was at the meeting and said that they were continuing to build up evidence in support of the club’s defence against the Nantes claim for Emiliano Sala transfer fee
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BLUETIT
You obviously don't know me :hehe: WTF is POWERPOINT ????
It's what you use to plug your electric booty into.
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Originally Posted by
lisvaneblue
Glad that amused you.
More to the point why doesn't the Trust ask it's few hundred members ahead of these meetings if there is anything they would like raised? It's almost as if we don't matter as long as we pay our annual subs.
You have a pm
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Had my lamb roast dinner and noticed no-one has posted anything about this afternoon, so here goes.
Club losing £3 a month at the moment and have asked for £8 million, from the £250 million slush fund
Director of Football, WHY ! They already have their committee in place and want to go down the road of buying younger players to bring the age of the squad down. Plus possibly earn cash from sell ons.
Mick is looking at the squad and the academy, before making any player requests. He is impressed with some of the academy players in his short time here (I think he's been in background longer)
Sam Hamman is after £15 million, Michael Issacs is after £10 million, keep an eye on the press
Vinnie had a good offer to sell the club, but told um to take a hike.
Shirt sponsorship, 5 deals being looked at.
Ken thanked the fans for paying their £10 to watch the games and said every little helps. He stated, "PLEASE CONTINUE" to watch
Melmet added,like the fans, we do not like seeing the team lose ! Something had to give.
Club losing £3m a month, but still signing players, and they want a fair chunk of the £250m set aside for clubs in financial hardship? What part of that makes sense? If the club is losing so much money, they should stop spunking it on players.
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Since62
Dave
The senior partner from the law firm (Capital Law) acting for the club in the dispute between CCFC and Nantes was at the meeting and said that they were continuing to build up evidence in support of the club’s defence against the Nantes claim for Emiliano Sala transfer fee
Cheers Keith. You'd imagine the club would have enough evidence two years after the event if they actually had a 'defence' which meant they could avoid paying the transfer fee despite announcing to the world they'd bought the player. Still, I guess the lawyers are making a mint out of this saga, so they'll be content.
Whatever happened to Tan's legal battle with Mackay and his alleged war on agents? Can't recall anything actually happening in either of those situations.
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Since62
Dave
The senior partner from the law firm (Capital Law) acting for the club in the dispute between CCFC and Nantes was at the meeting and said that they were continuing to build up evidence in support of the club’s defence against the Nantes claim for Emiliano Sala transfer fee
So they still reckon they don't have to pay for a transfer that was completed?
They have to win all three of these claims
£15m Sam. Should be easy, but I think the club conceded they owed Sam money so that makes it tricky.
£10m Isaacs. Shares can drop in value as well as rise, but didn't Isaacs' shares get diluted?
£15m Nantes. Not much chance of the club winning that one, morally, ethically or legally.
£40m in court cases, losing £3m a month, still signing players. Christ, I hope there is a plan somewhere.
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Had my lamb roast dinner and noticed no-one has posted anything about this afternoon, so here goes.
Club losing £3 a month at the moment and have asked for £8 million, from the £250 million slush fund
Director of Football, WHY ! They already have their committee in place and want to go down the road of buying younger players to bring the age of the squad down. Plus possibly earn cash from sell ons.
Mick is looking at the squad and the academy, before making any player requests. He is impressed with some of the academy players in his short time here (I think he's been in background longer)
Sam Hamman is after £15 million, Michael Issacs is after £10 million, keep an eye on the press
Vinnie had a good offer to sell the club, but told um to take a hike.
Shirt sponsorship, 5 deals being looked at.
Ken thanked the fans for paying their £10 to watch the games and said every little helps. He stated, "PLEASE CONTINUE" to watch
Melmet added,like the fans, we do not like seeing the team lose ! Something had to give.
Sorry to be dim here but the director of football question - is that them saying we're going to get one and you saying WHY because you disagree with it? Or was the question about getting a director of football and they replied with WHY because they say we don't need one?
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Originally Posted by
Since62
If the Trust had received more notice that the meeting was going to happen and what the format/ agenda was we would have had that chance to ask members for their input. As it was I only received the invite to the Zoom meeting this morning ( I had known there was to be a meeting but no formal invite until then).
There will be a report of the meeting to members shortly and the opportunity to ask questions and get answers as to the details raised and discussed
Keith
As you say, you knew there was going to be a meeting, but as usual no communication to ask if the opportunity arose what questions do members want raised. An e mail to members would have taken as long as it’s taken to write this response.ie minutes.
The members deserve better.
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BLUETIT
Mehmet, cannot understand this vitriol against Vincent Tan. The man is keeping us going
Oh I wouldn't call it vitriol at all Tone, just inquisitiveness. Keeping us going where exactly?
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Allez Allez Allez
So they still reckon they don't have to pay for a transfer that was completed?
They have to win all three of these claims
£15m Sam. Should be easy, but I think the club conceded they owed Sam money so that makes it tricky.
£10m Isaacs. Shares can drop in value as well as rise, but didn't Isaacs' shares get diluted?
£15m Nantes. Not much chance of the club winning that one, morally, ethically or legally.
£40m in court cases, losing £3m a month, still signing players. Christ, I hope there is a plan somewhere.
As I understand it the position on the three claims is as follows
Sam’s claim is that he is owed £15 m because his exit deal gave him the right to a life presidency of the club and the right to rejoin the executive board and take part in decision making. The club say that he was given the life presidency role but it was only a titular role and that the agreement gave no executive powers at all.
Michael Isaac’ claim is based on his assertion that his 2% shareholding in the club is worth £10m and was lost when Vincent Tan took more shares by his debt to equity conversion. If 2% of the club is worth £10m that would make the whole club worth £500m. Really?
The club has always maintained the view that Nantes and the actions of the ( unlicensed)intermediary they used in the deal caused the transfer to be nul and void. FIFA disagreed with this view, hence the full legal case being taken to CAS. The meeting was told that Nantes have asked for various adjournments of the CAS hearing and are yet to provide the paperwork to support their claim.
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lisvaneblue
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As you say, you knew there was going to be a meeting, but as usual no communication to ask if the opportunity arose what questions do members want raised. An e mail to members would have taken as long as it’s taken to write this response.ie minutes.
The members deserve better.
I would love to have done as you suggest but had very little time and was distracted by pressures in my day job which sometimes gets in the way of my entirely voluntary role at the Trust. Sometimes that is inevitable but still disappointing when it happens