Anyone got any idea what I can get my mother for Christmas?
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Anyone got any idea what I can get my mother for Christmas?
Sludge's phone number?
I just give money to the homeless and tell my old dear if it wasn't for me , that would be her
Sort of giving with one hand and taking away with the other
On the whole I absolutely detest Christmas and find it incredibly boring
Christmas lost its appeal for me when shops (and some houses!) put deccies up in September.
Plenty of people put their x mass decorations up early
A bloke round here does his whole house up including a santa on the roof together with fake reindeer and snow
It takes him about ten nights after finishing work and the weekend
It's a free country but I think he would be better off chilling out and donating money to charity
Got to get mine a hearing aid….do you have to go to the doctors which will be a mission, or can you just by any old shit?
https://www.specsavers.co.uk/hearing/hearing-aids Specsavers do them believe it or not, free test too
Personally, I think Christmas presents should only be for children. We all receive crap we have no interest in but that other people think we would like and we reciprocate similarly - and most of us would have already bought stuff we really wanted. I'm an atheist but it's a terribly vulgar consumer fest for me.
If you aren't primarily thinking about the baby Jesus simply look at it as a time to spend time with the people you love.
End of sermon :hehe:
my ex used to go crazy for Christmas and expect numerous very expensive presents. the new Mrs rjk is from a culture that doesn't celebrate Christmas. she'll tell me not to get her anything and she doesn't get me anything, and frankly it is a much better situation
People trapped in meaningless man-made traditions which have zilch to do with the birth of Christ. I agree with you.
All I would add is this; children like facts - tell them this is NOT the time of year that Christ was born and that it is an official birthday - just like the Queen has an official birthday which isn't her actual birthday.
Also, now that we have plenty of excellent star charting software available (much of it free online) that we can actually look back and see what was seen in the sky in the years and months leading up to the actual event, which all tie in perfectly with each of the 9 Bible references to the 'star' that was seen before His birth.
This video > THE STAR OF BETHLEHEM < provides all the detail which you will need, and those with limited time can start from 31 minutes into the presentation. NB: All the details in the video can be verified on any decent astronomy programme such as this >> Stellarium.
When was he born then? I dont think the shepherds would have been watching their flocks in the middle of winter, so I'm guessing it was a few months either side?
Christmas has evolved into a give/buy fest.
People don't even pretend it's about Jesus or religion anymore.
I won't stop buying my daughter nice gifts at Xmas just because a few old blokes on CCMB look down their noses at it.
In a sense we get the Christmas we deserve. It's no good moaning about the expense of it all or crowded shops or road congestion or unwanted presents or houses with illuminated Santa Claus's on the roofs when what was originally a simple Christian event (the Christ Mass) has been seized upon as a huge money making opportunity in which we, whether we like it or not, are all impacted by it.
The Jehovah Witnesses (I am not one BTW) do not celebrate the birth of Jesus per se as they see it as the extension of a pagan festival and that nowhere in the New Testament is there a request that we should do so, which is fair enough. They overlook the fact though that December 25th is simply an official birthday as the precise time of his birth is not recorded. As a Christian it would not bother me at all if his birthday was shifted to say the 25th September but somehow I don't think that would go down too well in the world of commerce!
Hence the JW's have no involvement in the whole “Christmas thing” which must require a great deal of will power in these consumerist times and I admire them for that. They would obviously not condone my actions as a Christian who sends Christmas cards and buys presents for our grandchildren (we have a “no presents thank you” amnesty with other members of the family). My attitude is that as long as this does not overshadow and diminish the true meaning of Christmas, then I am easy with this.
I believe the latest estimates by bible scholars put the birth in autumn, but I (and they) could be wrong.
For sure, we don't mark the years as time since his birth or death, but the current system of BC / AD was decided by some clerics at the council of Nicea, in what became 325AD - but many people say that they messed things about for their own benefit
personally, I love Christmas, it a few days off work, chance to see family and friends, eat " special food ", sure I can do all of that anytime, but its just easier over Christmas
The kids love it, everyone loves gifts
its all good in my book
Good way of doing it. Me and my partner spend at most 150 quid on eachother and it’s usually something we can enjoy together; fancy meal out, cocktail making course, weekend away, that sort of stuff. Chuck on top a book, some chocolates or nice bottle of something and that’s us sorted.
I love Christmas time personally, always have since I was a kid. Get together and catch up with family and friends and get cosy with some music or films on and stuff my face with food.
Ah, so the references to Tiberius and Pontius Pilate (which would date the crucifixion to around 30AD) by the Roman historian Tacitus would not count as independent evidence in your opinion then? It's a shame that you had to resort to such a belittling comment. I know most of the posters on this MB would love to be able to prove that Jesus never even existed but somehow he inconveniently just won't go away will he!