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People calling for Tan to go
Wise up.
Best owner we've had for a very long time
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Re: People calling for Tan to go
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Wise up.
Best owner we've had for a very long time
Agree. Its the same people who never wanted him here in the first place. They keep repeating that he hasn't done anything for us, when actually he has presided over a 10 year period of unprecedented success. If he did go, we would be right up shit creek without a paddle.
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Go through the list of managers he has picked and tell me which ones were good or bad.
Take the two promotions out of the equation, which were followed up by instant relegation, and it has been almost one way traffic on a downward spiral.
If by best owner he pays money out of his own pocket then yes he has.
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dml1954
Agree. Its the same people who never wanted him here in the first place. They keep repeating that he hasn't done anything for us, when actually he has presided over a 10 year period of unprecedented success. If he did go, we would be right up shit creek without a paddle.
This owner has got us on the brink of our lowest league placing in 18 years.
I know you love your league positions.
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I dont think ive seen anyone calling for him to go.
If he goes we go bust dont we.?
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Nobody has called for him to go, no.
What they have asked is that he stops pi$$ing his money up the wall by employing people to run the club that aren't qualified.
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Agree. Its the same people who never wanted him here in the first place. They keep repeating that he hasn't done anything for us, when actually he has presided over a 10 year period of unprecedented success. If he did go, we would be right up shit creek without a paddle.
No it isn’t, he can’t pick a decent CEO or manager, we are like the graveyard of managers, do any go into anything after us? OGS exception but I don’t think he has long left.
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blue lewj
Go through the list of managers he has picked and tell me which ones were good or bad.
Take the two promotions out of the equation, which were followed up by instant relegation, and it has been almost one way traffic on a downward spiral.
If by best owner he pays money out of his own pocket then yes he has.
This is just pure unadulterated rubbish. Right on cue you turn up like a bad penny, obviously recognising my description of people like you. No surprise that you have been sticking your nose into so many threads in the last few weeks, revelling in City's misfortune. Thats all you are getting off me, as I no longer communicate with morons.
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blue lewj
Nobody has called for him to go, no.
What they have asked is that he stops pi$$ing his money up the wall by employing people to run the club that aren't qualified.
Exactly…seems to find it very difficult and even when we get a decent manager in malky it goes titsup anyway
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Re: People calling for Tan to go
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
This is just pure unadulterated rubbish. Right on cue you turn up like a bad penny, obviously recognising my description of people like you. No surprise that you have been sticking your nose into so many threads in the last few weeks, revelling in City's misfortune. Thats all you are getting off me, as I no longer communicate with morons.
I'm always here.
It is you that has disappeared for long periods. Mainly because your prediction that we will be just fine has gone to **** and you made yourself look a prize plank with the whole Madine loan fee nonsense.
List the managers, you'll be surprised the utter crap that we have employed.
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Let’s not bite the hands that feeds us.
Granted he has put some poor choices with key personnel - but he keeps on putting the money in.
(Let’s not reopen the Rebrand issue either).
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Hilts
I dont think ive seen anyone calling for him to go.
If he goes we go bust dont we.?
Almost certainly - unless there is another regime out there with a sickening human rights record that wants to perfume their reputation by buying a European football club via their Sovereign Wealth Fund?
But to be fair there have not been many calls for Tan to walk away from the club (with his cheque book). There have been plenty of calls for Dalman and Choo to go - mainly over manager selection and contracts, partly over poor club communication, and a lot over recruitment decisions that stem from 2-3 years ago.
I haven't heard anyone claim recently that Tan is picking the team.
Tan may have gone very quiet in the past few years but he is still funding the club and I believe the accounts that he gets up in the middle of the night to watch every match and is in regular contact with Damlan/Choo and less regular contact with the manager.
We are in trouble at the moment - but I don't have any arguments with a change of strategy (unannounced) to bring through players from the Academy and reduce the wage bill. That said, I did expect Tomlin. Murphy and Wintle to be options this season - without them (and this may be partly his own fault) Mick had a harder job on his hands.
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I would say anyone who is mildly intelligent and knows a little bit about football do not want him to go.
A lot worse owners out there.
He needs to choose his advisers wiser and get people in who are football men.
I think it's a question of trust.
He probably feels he has been burnt a couple of times so I kind of get why he hasn't done thus far.
I really do hope he has been active in recent times to put that right.
I ain't holding my breath though.
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blue lewj
Go through the list of managers he has picked and tell me which ones were good or bad.
Take the two promotions out of the equation, which were followed up by instant relegation, and it has been almost one way traffic on a downward spiral.
If by best owner he pays money out of his own pocket then yes he has.
Take out the two promotions :hehe:
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19bluebirds27
Let’s not bite the hands that feeds us.
Granted he has put some poor choices with key personnel - but he keeps on putting the money in.
(Let’s not reopen the Rebrand issue either).
you shouldn't have done that ...!
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Tan doesn't need to go, he just needs to appoint someone to run his club (and spend his money) who knows what they're doing.
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Undercoverinwurzelland
Tan doesn't need to go, he just needs to appoint someone to run his club (and spend his money) who knows what they're doing.
And if he's not prepared to do that ?
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Whisperer
And if he's not prepared to do that ?
Let’s see how he likes league 1 football and the value of his club when it’s nowhere near the sunshine league
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goats
Let’s see how he likes league 1 football and the value of his club when it’s nowhere near the sunshine league
Fair comment goats - I think we'll be in the bottom 3 by the end of this week that's for sure.
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2b2bdoo
Take out the two promotions :hehe:
Alright then, let's keep them in.
We are the only team to get relegated straight away in our first two seasons.
Despite the money from the promotions and the parachute payments we now seem to be in a worse position than many teams that didn't have that luxury. Who is to blame do you think?
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We are grateful to Tan for putting his hand in his pocket but the time has come to realise we have people in key positions who are quite plainly out of their depth.
He would be paying less out of his own pocket every season if he had people who got him more value for the money he was paying and could get him a manager that they hadn't drawn out of a hat.
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2b2bdoo
Take out the two promotions :hehe:
And ignore the other 8 years and Tan has presided over a true debacle for the other 5 weeks :hehe:
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Re: People calling for Tan to go
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dml1954
And ignore the other 8 years and Tan has presided over a true debacle for the other 5 weeks :hehe:
You still looking for proof of that Madine loan fee? 😄🤣
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Whisperer
And if he's not prepared to do that ?
It's his decision of course, but he's the one who's going to end up with an asset worth considerably less than he paid for it if we go down.
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Wise up.
Best owner we've had for a very long time
Do you want to have Tan’s babies ?
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blue lewj
Go through the list of managers he has picked and tell me which ones were good or bad.
Take the two promotions out of the equation, which were followed up by instant relegation, and it has been almost one way traffic on a downward spiral.
If by best owner he pays money out of his own pocket then yes he has.
Yes take away those two unsuccessful years in the PL, apart from that the Club has sustained a period of being one of the better Championship sides in that time so there hasn’t been any downward spiral, has there?
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Had we gone out of business twelve years ago we would likely be where we are now just with a fan owned club or some sort of fan/private owned hybrid.
Tan is prick with an ego who thinks he can hush people with his megabucks.
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Divine Wright
Had we gone out of business twelve years ago we would likely be where we are now just with a fan owned club or some sort of fan/private owned hybrid.
Tan is prick with an ego who thinks he can hush people with his megabucks.
You think a fan owned club would manage 8 promotions to reach the Championship in 11 years? Wimbledon have only managed to make it to League 1 in 20 years and they’re nowhere near getting promoted to the Championship.
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Cleve van Leef
Yes take away those two unsuccessful years in the PL, apart from that the Club has sustained a period of being one of the better Championship sides in that time so there hasn’t been any downward spiral, has there?
Have you checked the table?
We're in a worse position than when he turned up.
All that despite the millions from the PL seasons and parachute payments.
But yeah they've done great....
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Someone has to be target I guess ,not sure what those call for him to go think would replace him ,what about those players should they go for not turning up , the majority of whom went on a great run in Micks early days / months ??
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Divine Wright
Had we gone out of business twelve years ago we would likely be where we are now just with a fan owned club or some sort of fan/private owned hybrid.
Tan is prick with an ego who thinks he can hush people with his megabucks.
The comments from others that ‘no one is asking for Tan to go’ look rather stupid when you read posts like this.
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Going down would be a disaster. I don’t know what the answers are but surely with Derby due another points deduction and Peterborough’s poor side you have enough to finish above just one other team in the League
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Apart from the painter and managers how many football minded appointments has Tan employed since he took over? Genuine question.
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Don’t need to Vincent Tan to go but he must realise that the people he has appointed to run the club are doing a pretty poor job !
Dalman and McCarthy need to go NOW and new CEO , director of football (somebody who knows the game and a plan to install a playing ethos that is used at all levels ) and a new 1st team coach/manager to be installed ASAP
Let’s also stop this “bringing thru the youth” drivel, it is merely having to use academy players due to financial reasons !!
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billy.ronson
Don’t need to Vincent Tan to go but he must realise that the people he has appointed to run the club are doing a pretty poor job !
Dalman and McCarthy need to go NOW and new CEO , director of football (somebody who knows the game and a plan to install a playing ethos that is used at all levels ) and a new 1st team coach/manager to be installed ASAP
Let’s also stop this “bringing thru the youth” drivel, it is merely having to use academy players due to financial reasons !!
Exactly this. VT needs to realise that he cant rely on a car salesman to run a football club.
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Him, Dalman and Choo all as useless as each other. Not sure why Tan gets a free ride really apart from people thinking he plugs losses (losses that come from his own lack of interest and mismanagement of a football club). If we had an owner, chief exec and chairman that knew how to run a football club then the losses would not need to be plugged to the extent that they (supposedly) currently are.
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Our debt has been created due to his stewardship at the club.
All debt he should be liable for.
It's his money that's been thrown down a black hole.
I hope he effs off.
There can be a life for our club without him.
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Pearcey3
Going down would be a disaster. I don’t know what the answers are but surely with Derby due another points deduction and Peterborough’s poor side you have enough to finish above just one other team in the League
No and especially with Mick.
Wed probably finish bottom even if Derby have another deduction.
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Divine Wright
Had we gone out of business twelve years ago we would likely be where we are now just with a fan owned club or some sort of fan/private owned hybrid.
Tan is prick with an ego who thinks he can hush people with his megabucks.
No we wouldnt. I doubt wed even be back in the league.
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No, Its time our owner woke up and realised he needs to we fix our own problems and not rely on other teams as if we carry on like this we will be in the same boat as teams like Derby.