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Trillions in Tax avoided
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-41879690
Avoidance isn't illegal.
'Fiddling while Rome burns'...
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Panorama? think I will pass. :biggrin:
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WB always first with the news! - http://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.php...al-Compromised
Let's see how Panorama try to spin it :wink:
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Let's see how Panorama try to spin it :wink:
I think the only answer is a global tax system... :wink::biggrin:
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
I think the only answer is a global tax system... :wink::biggrin:
I'm guessing blame Trump and some ex-Tories no longer involved in politics :sherlock:
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The plebs caught on long since it's a grab what you can, everyone for themselves beano from the top of the top to those right at the bottom.
Evidence for this is the 12 million Britons entitled to claim Winter Fuel Allowance... just 400 decline the payment; that's 1 in every 6,400.
The Tories made a critical error at the last GE when they suggested means-testing that freebie.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
The plebs caught on long since it's a grab what you can, everyone for themselves beano from the top of the top to those right at the bottom.
Evidence for this is the 12 million Britons entitled to claim Winter Fuel Allowance... just 400 decline the payment; that's 1 in every 6,400.
The Tories made a critical error at the last GE when they suggested means-testing that freebie.
The problem is that any cut to pensioners freebies is going to cost any party. Some freebies that the oaps get could be reduced dramatically but it would be political suicide.
Sadly, old people have more power in our democratic system than the young, who have to suffer those policies for years.
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
The problem is that any cut to pensioners freebies is going to cost any party. Some freebies that the oaps get could be reduced dramatically but it would be political suicide.
Sadly, old people have more power in our democratic system than the young, who have to suffer those policies for years.
Sadly, young people have to get old.
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
I think the only answer is a global tax system... :wink::biggrin:
Great idea.
A global currency and a global central bank while we are at it.
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
Great idea.
A global currency and a global central bank while we are at it.
Good luck with that.
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Mrs Steve R
Good luck with that.
It'll happen
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Rjk
It'll happen
I know it will, all these tax haven stories will make the brainwashed idiots think it's a good idea, enjoy being played, I'm past caring. :thumbup:
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Mrs Steve R
I know it will, all these tax haven stories will make the brainwashed idiots think it's a good idea, enjoy being played, I'm past caring. :thumbup:
It is a good idea. Have you ever considered that you might be getting played?
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
It is a good idea. Have you ever considered that you might be getting played?
Yeah, all the time, that fact that you don't is what worries me.
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Mrs Steve R
I know it will, all these tax haven stories will make the brainwashed idiots think it's a good idea, enjoy being played, I'm past caring. :thumbup:
What is the end game and why? Who wants a global tax system and why?
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
What is the end game and why? Who wants a global tax system and why?
The UN. :thumbup:
https://www.oxfam.org.uk/get-involve...d-for-everyone
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Mrs Steve R
Yeah, all the time, that fact that you don't is what worries me.
What makes you think I don't?
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Rjk
What makes you think I don't?
Why would you if you think it's a good idea?
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Mrs Steve R
Why would you if you think it's a good idea?
It will complement the cashless society very nicely :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
It will complement the cashless society very nicely :thumbup:
Yeah, great innit. :biggrin:
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Mrs Steve R
Yeah, great innit. :biggrin:
Yeah, great if you are part of the club ..
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if it was me i'd do the same so would most people
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
if it was me i'd do the same so would most people
Ever wondered why they collect your tax at source?
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
What is the end game and why? Who wants a global tax system and why?
The endgame is the mark of the beast: an implanted chip that contains all personal info, security clearance level, access to one's digital savings and tracking device all in one.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
The endgame is the mark of the beast: an implanted chip that contains all personal info, security clearance level, access to one's digital savings and tracking device all in one.
Seems a long way off to me.
I guess wanting some kind of transparency makes me a brainwashed idiot.
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Mrs Steve R
What I mean is, who are the evil puppet masters and how would a global taxation system make ordinary people's lives worse and theirs better?
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Wales-Bales
Ever wondered why they collect your tax at source?
I do indeed , how many folk have reduced the payment of a building job by paying cash to avoid VAT , then multiply that by the many millions that did , then multiply that into the value not paid in tax ,bingo social care paid for.
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life on mars
if it was me i'd do the same so would most people
I wouldn't nor would most of the people I know
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I wouldn't nor would most of the people I know
Nor me, I would prefer to live in a society that strives towards an advanced stage of social development and organization, not one that is going backwards.
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In regards to the super rich haven’t they got enough without recourse to these fecking schemes ???
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CardiffIrish2
In regards to the super rich haven’t they got enough without recourse to these fecking schemes ???
TBH, I dont know what the 'answer' is regards all this, nor where it is all leading, but that's the bit that makes me laugh/cry -
Some of these folks have hundreds upon hundreds of millions and they are desperate to pay no tax whatsoever.
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Vimto
TBH, I dont know what the 'answer' is regards all this, nor where it is all leading, but that's the bit that makes me laugh/cry -
Some of these folks have hundreds upon hundreds of millions and they are desperate to pay no tax whatsoever.
Unfortunately we endorse it. I know Lewis Hamilton is a frequent target in these kind of discussions but the fact that some sociopathic dogbrain tax-exile can be voted (by taxpayers presumably) SPOTY, whilst not important, just sums up how asleep we are as a nation.
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Wales-Bales
Nor me, I would prefer to live in a society that strives towards an advanced stage of social development and organization, not one that is going backwards.
Indeed
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Originally Posted by
Vimto
TBH, I dont know what the 'answer' is regards all this, nor where it is all leading, but that's the bit that makes me laugh/cry -
Some of these folks have hundreds upon hundreds of millions and they are desperate to pay no tax whatsoever.
Greedy capitalist scum basically
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
Unfortunately we endorse it. I know Lewis Hamilton is a frequent target in these kind of discussions but the fact that some sociopathic dogbrain tax-exile can be voted (by taxpayers presumably) SPOTY, whilst not important, just sums up how asleep we are as a nation.
He's a fecking disgrace
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Must say, I don't get the notion of ignore the message because of who the messenger is at all - even if the BBC is what it's detractors on here claim it to be, the fact is that they have considerable evidence showing that people who can easily afford to pay the relevant taxes are avoiding/evading doing so, sometimes on legally dubious grounds it seems and always on morally dubious ones.
I was listening to a phone in on this issue yesterday and, right at the start of the programme, a lady absolutely nailed it when she said that the really telling thing was the way defenders of the likes of that great sportsman Lewis Hamilton talk about "I" and "me" all the time and not "us" and "we" - nothing will ever dissuade me that we turned into a moire selfish society some time around forty years ago.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
The plebs caught on long since it's a grab what you can, everyone for themselves beano from the top of the top to those right at the bottom.
Evidence for this is the 12 million Britons entitled to claim Winter Fuel Allowance... just 400 decline the payment; that's 1 in every 6,400.
The Tories made a critical error at the last GE when they suggested means-testing that freebie.
This isn't really the same thing.
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Must say, I don't get the notion of ignore the message because of who the messenger is at all - even if the BBC is what it's detractors on here claim it to be, the fact is that they have considerable evidence showing that people who can easily afford to pay the relevant taxes are avoiding/evading doing so, sometimes on legally dubious grounds it seems and always on morally dubious ones.
I was listening to a phone in on this issue yesterday and, right at the start of the programme, a lady absolutely nailed it when she said that the really telling thing was the way defenders of the likes of that great sportsman Lewis Hamilton talk about "I" and "me" all the time and not "us" and "we" - nothing will ever dissuade me that we turned into a moire selfish society some time around forty years ago.
What do you think of Fox News then? Do you admire the way they report on topics that other news organisations won't touch, or even attemp to cover up? :wink: I'm no fan of Fox, but I see a red light when they investigate a subject and others don't. Don't worry it also works in reverse, they have a lot of bias too. I think you have to be discerning and see what everybody is saying or not saying, and then draw your own conclusions.
Regarding the Paradise Papers, news organisations in many countries are covering this, so it is possible to read "different flavours" of the same story.
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ninianclark
It's human nature at a basic level. Would you pay £10 for a pint if the pub next door was selling beer at £5 a pint ?
This is exactly how the wealthy keep the plebs out of their watering holes :thumbup:
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Wales-Bales
What do you think of Fox News then? Do you admire the way they report on topics that other news organisations won't touch, or even attemp to cover up? :wink: I'm no fan of Fox, but I see a red light when they investigate a subject and others don't. Don't worry it also works in reverse, they have a lot of bias too. I think you have to be discerning and see what everybody is saying or not saying, and then draw your own conclusions.
Regarding the Paradise Papers, news organisations in many countries are covering this, so it is possible to read "different flavours" of the same story.
I'm no fan of the Fox News agenda, but I'd like to think I'd treat what they report with an open mind and not just rubbish what they say because it's Fox who are behind the story.