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Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
I'm all ears.
Yes me :wave:
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
I'd actually like to know if Warnock would still defend Warnock! It's over. This squad are nearly all of his signings which amount to tens of millions wasted and they are nearly all crap or just simply not up to standard in a pretty average championship this season. How on earth he has managed to sign 4 strikers (correct me if i'm wrong) during his time here, and they are all absolute piss is a genuine feat to be admired. Our defence is terrible and undermanned... who ****ing ok'd him letting Cunningham go and not signing a replacement until two days ago! I have 0 doubt our already underused academy is now completely redundant and may as well be closed down due to years of neglect.
He gave us one unbelievable season, and a respectable premier league campaign. He's going to undo absolutely everything in a matter of months.
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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NYCBlue
I'm all ears.
There will be, although i'd say that they'd be the type of fan that quotes Kenny Hibbitt, Alan Durban and losing to Halifax away on a freezing Tuesday night. He's done, been found out, run out of ideas, or should that be 'idea' The best thing he could do for himself and the club is to walk away, put his hands up and say that he's taken it as far as he can, and that he isn't going to make any progress for the 5 months that he has left with the club. He wont though.
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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Chris Pontprennau Blues
Yes me :wave:
Come on then. What have you got?
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
Come on then. What have you got?
The biggest disappointment for me isn't the fact that we're struggling and playing shite football, it's the fact that the club and manager hasn't used the experience and money of the premier league as a way of bringing in players with the potential to improve and develop into players that will show that they have ability. There has been zero planning, it seems Warnock has done what he wants.
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Problem is to me it’s not hard to fix Warnockball. It’s a straight forward system that just relies on players doing exactly what theyre told with 100% effort from all and few mistakes.
It’s a 90% man management 10% tactics system but it seems all his players have slipped out of form at the same time.
I don’t think he’ll get them back playing and to me, it’s the end of him as a manager.
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I'd defend him because he's arguably been the best manager we've ever had. I'm very grateful for what he's done for this club.
Sadly the whole thing seems to have run its course now and it doesn't look to me as if the spark can be recaptured at this stage.
It's a pity that the unprecedented success couldn't have been developed or at least preserved, and now we've got to start again .
That'll take a long time I'm afraid
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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RonnieBird
I'd defend him because he's arguably been the best manager we've ever had. I'm very grateful for what he's done for this club.
Sadly the whole thing seems to have run its course now and it doesn't look to me as if the spark can be recaptured at this stage.
It's a pity that the unprecedented success couldn't have been developed or at least preserved, and now we've got to start again .
That'll take a long time I'm afraid
Warnock doesn't do development.
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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Originally Posted by
RonnieBird
I'd defend him because he's arguably been the best manager we've ever had. I'm very grateful for what he's done for this club.
Sadly the whole thing seems to have run its course now and it doesn't look to me as if the spark can be recaptured at this stage.
It's a pity that the unprecedented success couldn't have been developed or at least preserved, and now we've got to start again .
That'll take a long time I'm afraid
Granted you have made an admission that it's over for him, other fans who stick by this sort of mantra are absolute fools. Leicester sacked their 'best manager ever', and now look at them, they're even better. No room for sentimentality in sport.
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
Never been a support of Warnock, he should of been sent packing last Christmas.
We might of had a chance with a different manager in staying in the premier, but we didn’t and he should of been sacked at the end of last season.
He has to go now and a new manager ASAP to sort out the players and they have time to look at where to strengthen in January transfer window
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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Tuerto
The biggest disappointment for me isn't the fact that we're struggling and playing shite football, it's the fact that the club and manager hasn't used the experience and money of the premier league as a way of bringing in players with the potential to improve and develop into players that will show that they have ability. There has been zero planning, it seems Warnock has done what he wants.
Agree totally. :thumbup:
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
The biggest disappointment for me isn't the fact that we're struggling and playing shite football, it's the fact that the club and manager hasn't used the experience and money of the premier league as a way of bringing in players with the potential to improve and develop into players that will show that they have ability. There has been zero planning, it seems Warnock has done what he wants.
:thumbup:
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
What's this "unprecedented success" we've had under Neil Warnock then? Granted, what he did two seasons ago was very impressive, but he's been living off that for eighteen months now - he has not done anything that is without precedent at Cardiff City except, perhaps, buy more expensive duds than any other Cardiff manager.
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He should have gone after the win at Old Trafford
Ah well, at least we let him piss even more money up the wall and undo pretty much all the hard work he did, leaving us sliding back to where we were when he took over
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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the other bob wilson
What's this "unprecedented success" we've had under Neil Warnock then? Granted, what he did two seasons ago was very impressive, but he's been living off that for eighteen months now - he has not done anything that is without precedent at Cardiff City except, perhaps, buy more expensive duds than any other Cardiff manager.
Alot of our fans are easily pleased. We went up when we thought that we had no chance, that's fantastic, the consensus after that wasn't one of an opportunity that was to good to turn down, let's make something of this even if it isn't survival in the Premier league. The thought process seemed to be 'Oh well' 'Didn't see that coming' 'let's just turn up and see what happens' and now look at us, no thought and no planning. That's a disgrace.
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
Come on then. What have you got?
I don't discuss my views with plastics :wave:
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
What's this "unprecedented success" we've had under Neil Warnock then? Granted, what he did two seasons ago was very impressive, but he's been living off that for eighteen months now - he has not done anything that is without precedent at Cardiff City except, perhaps, buy more expensive duds than any other Cardiff manager.
and we had much better players two seasons ago, hes got rid of them and replaced most with duds
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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Chris Pontprennau Blues
I don't discuss my views with plastics :wave:
Ha ha ha! So you won't defend him. Classic.
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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Tuerto
Alot of our fans are easily pleased. We went up when we thought that we had no chance, that's fantastic, the consensus after that wasn't one of an opportunity that was to good to turn down, let's make something of this even if it isn't survival in the Premier league. The thought process seemed to be 'Oh well' 'Didn't see that coming' 'let's just turn up and see what happens' and now look at us, no thought and no planning. That's a disgrace.
People seem prepared to excuse our relegation, but, if you are looking for something unprecedented, then we did what no one else has done in the history of the Premier League with our 100 per cent relegation record for a club that has spent more than a single season in the top flight - that suggests that we didn't learn anything from our first season in the "best league in the world" and we now seem to be proving that we learned nothing from our our first season back in the Championship either.
Of course, you can't blame Neil Warnock for all of that, but I must say I was expecting a great deal better from a so called Championship expert this season.
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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NYCBlue
Ha ha ha! So you won't defend him. Classic.
I had a similar discussion maybe dispute with BLUE AWAY today, we should give Neil a chance to get us in a playoff position by the end of January - if we are floundering in mid table get a new manager in - in my view Chris Hughton :wave:
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
The biggest disappointment for me isn't the fact that we're struggling and playing shite football, it's the fact that the club and manager hasn't used the experience and money of the premier league as a way of bringing in players with the potential to improve and develop into players that will show that they have ability. There has been zero planning, it seems Warnock has done what he wants.
Fact is the club had no football nous in the boardroom. They went from cost cutting Slade to Trollope and crowds dwindling. Fans not happy, fans want Tan gone. Fans want Warnock. Fans get Warnock. Warnock knows there is no football nous at the club. Warnock tells Tan what is needed. Tan, after years of getting fingers burnt listens. Problem is, Warnock is a football manager from the dark ages, with 2/3 years left until he retires.
Club gets promoted. Fans think Warnock doing a great job. He can do no wrong. Fans defend style of football, some bring up stats showing that they don't play "hoofball". Club promoted. Fans vindicated. Tan vindicated.
Club tell fans PL will be a bonus season. Fans swallow it. Who cares that we conceded 5 again, we shouldn't even be here. Warnock escapes any form of scrutiny from fans and owners. Its a binus season. Take the money, run. Warnock building a team for next season, when we'll be going for promotion number 2. It'll be easy.
Championship has got wiser. Teams play football, good football. Fans don't want that, Warnock's style will sort them all out. Who wants all that boring passing when you can get the ball to the striker in one big punt? It worked last time. It's not working this time. Fans, so fickle, so quick to say they never liked Warnock's style. It isn't so good when you are not winning so often. Fans now want a footballing ethos and culture at the club.
Warnock has always avoided scrutiny. He has, if you listen to him, never actually made a mistake at all. Every loss is because of a refereeing mistake. Hard done by Warnock. His teams are hard done by too. That's where they dig in, we'll show them. And it works, at every club he has been at, it works. Until it stops working. Players suddenly start getting it in the neck from Warnock in private because, actually, it's not really the referee or the football authorities to blame. It's them. The players, The ones he spent lots of other people's money on. The ones he didn't really research that well. Then, when people start to question, hang on, is it Warnock's fault after all? He defends hisself, then sods off. Reputation always in tact. He's a survivor is Colin. His clubs, less so.
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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Allez Allez Allez
Fact is the club had no football nous in the boardroom. They went from cost cutting Slade to Trollope and crowds dwindling. Fans not happy, fans want Tan gone. Fans want Warnock. Fans get Warnock. Warnock knows there is no football nous at the club. Warnock tells Tan what is needed. Tan, after years of getting fingers burnt listens. Problem is, Warnock is a football manager from the dark ages, with 2/3 years left until he retires.
Club gets promoted. Fans think Warnock doing a great job. He can do no wrong. Fans defend style of football, some bring up stats showing that they don't play "hoofball". Club promoted. Fans vindicated. Tan vindicated.
Club tell fans PL will be a bonus season. Fans swallow it. Who cares that we conceded 5 again, we shouldn't even be here. Warnock escapes any form of scrutiny from fans and owners. Its a binus season. Take the money, run. Warnock building a team for next season, when we'll be going for promotion number 2. It'll be easy.
Championship has got wiser. Teams play football, good football. Fans don't want that, Warnock's style will sort them all out. Who wants all that boring passing when you can get the ball to the striker in one big punt? It worked last time. It's not working this time. Fans, so fickle, so quick to say they never liked Warnock's style. It isn't so good when you are not winning so often. Fans now want a footballing ethos and culture at the club.
Warnock has always avoided scrutiny. He has, if you listen to him, never actually made a mistake at all. Every loss is because of a refereeing mistake. Hard done by Warnock. His teams are hard done by too. That's where they dig in, we'll show them. And it works, at every club he has been at, it works. Until it stops working. Players suddenly start getting it in the neck from Warnock in private because, actually, it's not really the referee or the football authorities to blame. It's them. The players, The ones he spent lots of other people's money on. The ones he didn't really research that well. Then, when people start to question, hang on, is it Warnock's fault after all? He defends hisself, then sods off. Reputation always in tact. He's a survivor is Colin. His clubs, less so.
Excellent summary.
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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Originally Posted by
Chris Pontprennau Blues
I had a similar discussion maybe dispute with BLUE AWAY today, we should give Neil a chance to get us in a playoff position by the end of January - if we are floundering in mid table get a new manager in - in my view Chris Hughton :wave:
So you want us to replace Neil Warnock with a younger version of Neil Warnock? May as well keep Neil Warnock.
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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Originally Posted by
Allez Allez Allez
Fact is the club had no football nous in the boardroom. They went from cost cutting Slade to Trollope and crowds dwindling. Fans not happy, fans want Tan gone. Fans want Warnock. Fans get Warnock. Warnock knows there is no football nous at the club. Warnock tells Tan what is needed. Tan, after years of getting fingers burnt listens. Problem is, Warnock is a football manager from the dark ages, with 2/3 years left until he retires.
Club gets promoted. Fans think Warnock doing a great job. He can do no wrong. Fans defend style of football, some bring up stats showing that they don't play "hoofball". Club promoted. Fans vindicated. Tan vindicated.
Club tell fans PL will be a bonus season. Fans swallow it. Who cares that we conceded 5 again, we shouldn't even be here. Warnock escapes any form of scrutiny from fans and owners. Its a binus season. Take the money, run. Warnock building a team for next season, when we'll be going for promotion number 2. It'll be easy.
Championship has got wiser. Teams play football, good football. Fans don't want that, Warnock's style will sort them all out. Who wants all that boring passing when you can get the ball to the striker in one big punt? It worked last time. It's not working this time. Fans, so fickle, so quick to say they never liked Warnock's style. It isn't so good when you are not winning so often. Fans now want a footballing ethos and culture at the club.
Warnock has always avoided scrutiny. He has, if you listen to him, never actually made a mistake at all. Every loss is because of a refereeing mistake. Hard done by Warnock. His teams are hard done by too. That's where they dig in, we'll show them. And it works, at every club he has been at, it works. Until it stops working. Players suddenly start getting it in the neck from Warnock in private because, actually, it's not really the referee or the football authorities to blame. It's them. The players, The ones he spent lots of other people's money on. The ones he didn't really research that well. Then, when people start to question, hang on, is it Warnock's fault after all? He defends hisself, then sods off. Reputation always in tact. He's a survivor is Colin. His clubs, less so.
**** me what a post :thumbup:
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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Cleve van Leef
Agree totally. :thumbup:
Agree
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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Originally Posted by
Allez Allez Allez
Fact is the club had no football nous in the boardroom. They went from cost cutting Slade to Trollope and crowds dwindling. Fans not happy, fans want Tan gone. Fans want Warnock. Fans get Warnock. Warnock knows there is no football nous at the club. Warnock tells Tan what is needed. Tan, after years of getting fingers burnt listens. Problem is, Warnock is a football manager from the dark ages, with 2/3 years left until he retires.
Club gets promoted. Fans think Warnock doing a great job. He can do no wrong. Fans defend style of football, some bring up stats showing that they don't play "hoofball". Club promoted. Fans vindicated. Tan vindicated.
Club tell fans PL will be a bonus season. Fans swallow it. Who cares that we conceded 5 again, we shouldn't even be here. Warnock escapes any form of scrutiny from fans and owners. Its a binus season. Take the money, run. Warnock building a team for next season, when we'll be going for promotion number 2. It'll be easy.
Championship has got wiser. Teams play football, good football. Fans don't want that, Warnock's style will sort them all out. Who wants all that boring passing when you can get the ball to the striker in one big punt? It worked last time. It's not working this time. Fans, so fickle, so quick to say they never liked Warnock's style. It isn't so good when you are not winning so often. Fans now want a footballing ethos and culture at the club.
Warnock has always avoided scrutiny. He has, if you listen to him, never actually made a mistake at all. Every loss is because of a refereeing mistake. Hard done by Warnock. His teams are hard done by too. That's where they dig in, we'll show them. And it works, at every club he has been at, it works. Until it stops working. Players suddenly start getting it in the neck from Warnock in private because, actually, it's not really the referee or the football authorities to blame. It's them. The players, The ones he spent lots of other people's money on. The ones he didn't really research that well. Then, when people start to question, hang on, is it Warnock's fault after all? He defends hisself, then sods off. Reputation always in tact. He's a survivor is Colin. His clubs, less so.
And on top of that zero ambition at the top. Their view ..."let's continue to be plucky little Cardiff also rans and maybe strike lucky once in a blue moon without spending"
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
I'm happy for Warnock to stay until the end of the season. I don't trust the board to replace him with anyone better and think it's too risky at this point - we won't go down with Warnock.
Plenty of mb users have got suggestions but there's none that really set the pulse racing - everyone is a gamble. Not long ago everyone was marvelling at what a setup Norwich have - think they've just lost seven on the bounce.
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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the other bob wilson
What's this "unprecedented success" we've had under Neil Warnock then? Granted, what he did two seasons ago was very impressive, but he's been living off that for eighteen months now - he has not done anything that is without precedent at Cardiff City except, perhaps, buy more expensive duds than any other Cardiff manager.
Well he not only got us promoted, but had a very realistic go at keeping us there. We didn't fold up as we did the last time. He also came very close to maintaining the momentum this year and if he leaves us we will be in better shape all round than we've been before.
In short he took us on a long march which included many fantastic moments and famous victories and made ( most) people believe in the club.
He bought some surprising players this year and unfortunately they can't quite do the job together as a team. Mind you, he might not be finished yet.
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Captain_Sensible
I'm happy for Warnock to stay until the end of the season. I don't trust the board to replace him with anyone better and think it's too risky at this point - we won't go down with Warnock.
Plenty of mb users have got suggestions but there's none that really set the pulse racing - everyone is a gamble. Not long ago everyone was marvelling at what a setup Norwich have - think they've just lost seven on the bounce.
What Norwich do have is a smattering of younger players who they will probably be able to cash in on if they go down. We've spent a lot more than Norwich in recent years and yet, almost without fail, the players we sign depreciate in value through a combination of their age and poor performance. We are now in a position where it appears that there are a lot of things wrong at the club - the fact that we are going to struggle to repeat the sell one or two good players a summer approach that worked pretty well for us about a decade ago once the parachute payments run out being one of them.
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
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Originally Posted by
Captain_Sensible
I'm happy for Warnock to stay until the end of the season. I don't trust the board to replace him with anyone better and think it's too risky at this point - we won't go down with Warnock.
Plenty of mb users have got suggestions but there's none that really set the pulse racing - everyone is a gamble. Not long ago everyone was marvelling at what a setup Norwich have - think they've just lost seven on the bounce.
Well done 'captain' a very 'sensible ' reply the world is full of experts and managers ,many haven't actually managed anything, let alone footballers ego's.
I think the players have let themselves down , no one told them to :
Give away the second ball.
Defend like amateurs.
Not run into spaces or different angles to create chances.
Yes he should have gone after Utd, it was the coub who decided not too, in part probaly after Sala .
He has an ageing team and we are just seeing the season out, and I think that was the plan all along.
Lets jyst say thanks Neil , see us to May , and just make the changes at the season end .
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RonnieBird
Well he not only got us promoted, but had a very realistic go at keeping us there. We didn't fold up as we did the last time. He also came very close to maintaining the momentum this year and if he leaves us we will be in better shape all round than we've been before.
In short he took us on a long march which included many fantastic moments and famous victories and made ( most) people believe in the club.
He bought some surprising players this year and unfortunately they can't quite do the job together as a team. Mind you, he might not be finished yet.
Can you expand on the “in better shape all round” comment?
- Is our first team in better shape? Not really.
- is our academy producing more first team players? Erm...nope.
- do we have a clear plan for the future? Not on your nelly!
- did we have an unexpected and unlikely promotion followed by a relegation and are now practically back in the same place as when Warnock arrived? Yip!
- Has our manager spent more money than any of his predecessors? Yes, Siree!
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RonnieBird
I'd defend him because he's arguably been the best manager we've ever had. I'm very grateful for what he's done for this club.
Sadly the whole thing seems to have run its course now and it doesn't look to me as if the spark can be recaptured at this stage.
It's a pity that the unprecedented success couldn't have been developed or at least preserved, and now we've got to start again .
That'll take a long time I'm afraid
If he is, 'the best manager we've ever had,' then we wouldn't be in virtually the same condition as when he took over, playing poor football and still going backwards.
StT.
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Captain_Sensible
I'm happy for Warnock to stay until the end of the season. I don't trust the board to replace him with anyone better and think it's too risky at this point - we won't go down with Warnock.
Plenty of mb users have got suggestions but there's none that really set the pulse racing - everyone is a gamble. Not long ago everyone was marvelling at what a setup Norwich have - think they've just lost seven on the bounce.
Every managerial appointment is a gamble.
The club need to work out what decision may offer the more reduced gamble.
Jepson, Bamba and others mentioned on here offer very little experience at a decent level and more importantly, will never attract players to this club that possess the qualities we need.
Bellamy is the only choice for me. Of course a gamble but has played at the highest level under top managers, now has coaching experience and would end Warnockball. He could probably sign players that would otherwise not consider Cardiff City
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life on mars
Well done 'captain' a very 'sensible ' reply the world is full of experts and managers ,many haven't actually managed anything, let alone footballers ego's.
I think the players have let themselves down , no one told them to :
Give away the second ball.
Defend like amateurs.
Not run into spaces or different angles to create chances.
Yes he should have gone after Utd, it was the coub who decided not too, in part probaly after Sala .
He has an ageing team and we are just seeing the season out, and I think that was the plan all along.
Lets jyst say thanks Neil , see us to May , and just make the changes at the season end .
Bring someone in at the end of February. They need time evaluating the current squad before the summer
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
Me,
Team
We are currently playing shit. Correct. However i dont feel we are a million miles away from being a decent team. Theres been a fair amount of change.over last 12 months.
If we can get a bit tighter at the back and a bit more clinical genuinelly feel we will be in and around.
It looks unlikely can get much worse, if the players can improve then
Tactics
I got no issue with how we play football. Theres more than one way to get the ball.in the net. We create plenty of chances without having to keep the ball for long periods. Everyone wants to win games and play beautiful football but only 3 teams go and 21 fail.
Those who want him gone becauae of tactics i'm sure you werent asking him.to be sacked when we were 2nd.
Transfers
This is the most frustrating part of Warnock.
For me when we were so inferior compared to other clubs in pl it wasnt about bolstering numbers it was adding quality. Any money spent should have gone into players playing.
Its a lot of money spent and theres still no stand out players.
What i would say is the signings going into Pl looked sensible young players who if did well would be good investments however if fell short knew could do a job in championship. It hasnt worked out that way.
Premier League
Ive got no issue with how we went down. We failed yes but it was so much closer than everyone thought. In the end i think we were unfortunate to get relegated as thibk we were better overall than 1 or 2. 1 or 2 goals wpukd have made the difference.
Future
Is it being short sighted sticking with Warnock? Yes whoever takes over is unlikely to want to play similar system. However, i still believe we can do something this year. I maybe wrong but i think we have a better chance of doing something with him than without him.
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Re: Is there anyone on here that will still defend Warnock?
I will defend him
He saved us from relegation certainties .......remember that win against Bristol city ?
He galvanised the fans after a good few years of morbidity
He got us promoted to the big time
He's made mistakes like any other manager
But we are mid table , not six points adrift for gods sake
This season mid table is what its going to be , that's not the end of the world .......but relegation would be and that's a very strong possibility if we replaced Warnock now ........knee jerk reactions like that have ruined many clubs
We are not a big club like Sunderland , Pompey etc who have the supporter base to eventually drag themselves back
We should stick with Warnock who is exactly the right man for a scrap in the middle of the table and then when he retires at the end of the season we should thank him for what he's done for Cardiff city and then look for a fresh face to move us forward
In my view , replacing him now could backfire on us big time
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SLUDGE FACTORY
We are not a big club like Sunderland , Pompey etc who have the supporter base to eventually drag themselves back
Is that the Sunderland who have lost a third of their support since relegation from the Premier League, or Portsmouth, who can barely fit 20,000 into Fratton Park, who saw attendances drop to 12k in League 1?
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Eric the Half a Bee
Is that the Sunderland who have lost a third of their support since relegation from the Premier League, or Portsmouth, who can barely fit 20,000 into Fratton Park, who saw attendances drop to 12k in League 1?
Sunderland crowds have been around 28k all season, which is pretty impressive considering their fall down the divisions and 2nd year at league one. They have a much bigger fan base than us, we could only get 24k for a derby game in the championship.
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Is that the Sunderland who have lost a third of their support since relegation from the Premier League, or Portsmouth, who can barely fit 20,000 into Fratton Park, who saw attendances drop to 12k in League 1?
Sunderland are getting 25000 plus in league one and Pompey's support has held up around the 18000 mark since their fall from grace , sides like this and the likes of Sheffield Wednesday , derby , etc have a solid core support
We don't
Under Slade , Jones and Trollope fans would desert us in droves when results went against us
Its always been the case and one of the reasons why getting rid of Warnock could jettison this club into freefall and possible relegation
If people want a new manager in my view we should ensure we don't go down , by sticking with Warnock ......and make a change at the end of the season