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Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
Not heard much from him since the start of Covid. Not sure what that means! just wondering.
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
Seems like he’s lost all interest.
We just appear to be winging it on all fronts.
From the squad, to the manager, to any direction or ambition.
I’m starting to feel the same myself.
After 50 Yrs of being City daft, i’m rapidly losing interest. Had a gut feeling we’d get beat today, and in all honesty, i didn’t even feel any emotion when we did.
I would say i’m all footballed out, only theres not been any decent football played down the City for a good while now
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
Hasn't he got his man Jalil Rasheed virtually stalking the corridors of CCFC and reporting back ?
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news...director-board
The OP is correct, in terms of VT it's all gone quiet over there. Has Rasheed ever made any pronouncements about CCFC ? I don't remember any. With Ken Choo having moved to London and is now keeping Mehmet Dalman company at arms length you certainly get the impression that the bridge of the good ship Cardiff City is a bit deserted.
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Seems like he’s lost all interest.
Who hasn’t
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
I’m sure he’s got his hands full with saving multiple businesses with crippling COVID restrictions.
Football was just a vehicle to promote other businesses. It was never going to be his primary focus
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And us lifelong supporters are just left in the doldrums as a rich man's plaything gathers dust.
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
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Originally Posted by
ToTaL ITK
Not heard much from him since the start of Covid. Not sure what that means! just wondering.
I've been to Tesco , Halfords , Kfc and a few other places this week and not once have i seen the owner of them,,
I don't know why anyone cares if the owner is there or not.
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
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Originally Posted by
stan butler
I've been to Tesco , Halfords , Kfc and a few other places this week and not once have i seen the owner of them,,
I don't know why anyone cares if the owner is there or not.
And you don't think there's ever such an itsy bitsy difference between a retail store and a football club Stan?
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Dorcus
And you don't think there's ever such an itsy bitsy difference between a retail store and a football club Stan?
Both are run like a business.
I don't care if the owner is here or not and i don't know anyone else who is bothered by it either.
The days of owners causing a circus to get attention from the fanboys are long gone thankfully..
All i care about is the club and how it's run not Vinny or anyone else being in the stadium..
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Seems like he’s lost all interest.
We just appear to be winging it on all fronts.
From the squad, to the manager, to any direction or ambition.
I’m starting to feel the same myself.
After 50 Yrs of being City daft, i’m rapidly losing interest. Had a gut feeling we’d get beat today, and in all honesty, i didn’t even feel any emotion when we did.
I would say i’m all footballed out, only theres not been any decent football played down the City for a good while now
50 years? You young ones are just moan, moan, moan all the bleedin time, get a grip!
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Seems like he’s lost all interest.
We just appear to be winging it on all fronts.
From the squad, to the manager, to any direction or ambition.
I’m starting to feel the same myself.
After 50 Yrs of being City daft, i’m rapidly losing interest. Had a gut feeling we’d get beat today, and in all honesty, i didn’t even feel any emotion when we did.
I would say i’m all footballed out, only theres not been any decent football played down the City for a good while now
I'm hoping the powers that be are now realising they have to clear out the crap and start afresh
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
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Originally Posted by
stan butler
Both are run like a business.
I don't care if the owner is here or not and i don't know anyone else who is bothered by it either.
The days of owners causing a circus to get attention from the fanboys are long gone thankfully..
All i care about is the club and how it's run not Vinny or anyone else being in the stadium..
I know a lot of people who are bothered by it.
One huge difference is that few people who have put their hearts and souls into supporting a football club all their lives would just casually do their shopping elsewhere. You can do that with a retail business but it's not so easy with a football club.
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Dorcus
I know a lot of people who are bothered by it.
One huge difference is that few people who have put their hearts and souls into supporting a football club all their lives would just casually do their shopping elsewhere. You can do that with a retail business but it's not so easy with a football club.
And the same people bothered by it wouldn't care if he was there or not if we were mid table in the premier league.
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
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Enoch Mort
Hasn't he got his man Jalil Rasheed virtually stalking the corridors of CCFC and reporting back ?
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news...director-board
The OP is correct, in terms of VT it's all gone quiet over there. Has Rasheed ever made any pronouncements about CCFC ? I don't remember any. With Ken Choo having moved to London and is now keeping Mehmet Dalman company at arms length you certainly get the impression that the bridge of the good ship Cardiff City is a bit deserted.
I'm not surprised that VT isn't currently showing a personal interest. He's got enough on his plate trying to keep his total business interests going during the Covid era. The 'virtual' arrival of Abdul Jalil Rasheed as a director suggests to me that VT wants a strategist involved and this is the man. There is no doubt that KC and MD have made some mistakes in terms of personal involved with CC in recent years, and from critical comments made by Mehmet at a recent meeting with supporters groups maybe they are feeling a bit sore about the situation.
Also there are other things to do: HR Owen is a big business for VT and both Mehmet Dalman and Ken Choo are directors.
Interestingly, in 2020 Ken Choo became a director of Ascend Care Ltd, a technical healthcare company based in Reading. Im not sure if this is one of VTs business. Ascend care are a major UK distributor of LFTs...and we all know what they are....so maybe development of this is a priority for him??
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
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stan butler
And the same people bothered by it wouldn't care if he was there or not if we were mid table in the premier league.
Since I know them I can categorically say that's not true. Surely it doesn't take much effort for the guy to explain what his intentions are with the club? I know love is blind Stan but I reckon you probably agree with that.
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The only interest VT has shown recently is the amount of £ leaving his bank account each month to subsidise the players wages.
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Originally Posted by
lisvaneblue
I'm not surprised that VT isn't currently showing a personal interest. He's got enough on his plate trying to keep his total business interests going during the Covid era. The 'virtual' arrival of Abdul Jalil Rasheed as a director suggests to me that VT wants a strategist involved and this is the man. There is no doubt that KC and MD have made some mistakes in terms of personal involved with CC in recent years, and from critical comments made by Mehmet at a recent meeting with supporters groups maybe they are feeling a bit sore about the situation.
Also there are other things to do: HR Owen is a big business for VT and both Mehmet Dalman and Ken Choo are directors.
Interestingly, in 2020 Ken Choo became a director of Ascend Care Ltd, a technical healthcare company based in Reading. Im not sure if this is one of VTs business. Ascend care are a major UK distributor of LFTs...and we all know what they are....so maybe development of this is a priority for him??
Maybe the guy's bitten more than he can chew. At the very least why doesn't he reduce his shareholding in CCFC and allow more experienced and able operators to drive it forward?
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The Bloop
The only interest VT has shown recently is the amount of £ leaving his bank account each month to subsidise the players wages.
Well said, it helps to prop up his investment
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
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Dorcus
Maybe the guy's bitten more than he can chew. At the very least why doesn't he reduce his shareholding in CCFC and allow more experienced and able operators to drive it forward?
Tan likes being in charge. I can't imagine him reducing his shareholding, I think he'd just sell up.
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The Bloop
The only interest VT has shown recently is the amount of £ leaving his bank account each month to subsidise the players wages.
I think this maybe appreciated more when a few more clubs struggle and get points deductions soon enough.
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Eric the Half a Bee
Tan likes being in charge. I can't imagine him reducing his shareholding, I think he'd just sell up.
Sadly I agree. The fear I've got is that he won't sell for a reasonable offer and is trying to hold out for much more than the club's worth.
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The Bloop
The only interest VT has shown recently is the amount of £ leaving his bank account each month to subsidise the players wages.
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Originally Posted by
2b2bdoo
I think this maybe appreciated more when a few more clubs struggle and get points deductions soon enough.
Is his cunning plan to avoid relegation to hope there's 3 teams with enough points deducted finishing below us 😁
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
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2b2bdoo
I think this maybe appreciated more when a few more clubs struggle and get points deductions soon enough.
well he has kept the club afloat ie we don't seem to be breaking any financial fair play rules at the moment.i think he would love to get rid of us but the sala case is hanging over the club for now. maybe after that we may see some movement either way but we maybe in division one by then:shrug:
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driver blue
well he has kept the club afloat ie we don't seem to be breaking any financial fair play rules at the moment.i think he would love to get rid of us but the sala case is hanging over the club for now. maybe after that we may see some movement either way but we maybe in division one by then:shrug:
Everyone always says he wants to sell, he had the perfect time after Warnock got us promoted.
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2b2bdoo
Everyone always says he wants to sell, he had the perfect time after Warnock got us promoted.
Exactly, he should have done it then. He's going to be struggling to get his money back now.
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
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Dorcus
Maybe the guy's bitten more than he can chew. At the very least why doesn't he reduce his shareholding in CCFC and allow more experienced and able operators to drive it forward?
Which is exactly what he needs to do else he will lose even more. Dont think he has what it takes to run a football club, at least he’s not getting the right people in to do it.
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
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Originally Posted by
stan butler
I've been to Tesco , Halfords , Kfc and a few other places this week and not once have i seen the owner of them,,
I don't know why anyone cares if the owner is there or not.
hope your chopper is ok and those wings were tasty, but none of those are playing brizzle next week in a fight for survival are they.
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goats
Which is exactly what he needs to do else he will lose even more. Dont think he has what it takes to run a football club, at least he’s not getting the right people in to do it.
I totally agree. If I were him I'd cut my losses quick and put it down to experience (or lack of in this case).
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All all I can see from reports has had suffered loses due to Covid and of his liabilities he has so far off loaded his 30 million yacht and half of his stake in LAFC , but not us yet ??
He has in my era been the best and most loyal of owners.
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
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Dorcus
Exactly, he should have done it then. He's going to be struggling to get his money back now.
Or maybe he has never had any intention to sell.
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
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2b2bdoo
Or maybe he has never had any intention to sell.
I don't think there's any reason to believe that. People don't make a return on their investment without selling up. I believe he was hoping to achieve a well established Premier club on limited funding then cash in on the profit. It'll never happen for him now so I can't understand why he doesn't allow a more professional set up to halt our decline.
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Dorcus
I don't think there's any reason to believe that. People don't make a return on their investment without selling up. I believe he was hoping to achieve a well established Premier club on limited funding then cash in on the profit. It'll never happen for him now so I can't understand why he doesn't allow a more professional set up to halt our decline.
You mean like Derby?
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xsnaggle
You mean like Derby?
No, don't you know what's happened to them? You've been asleep again.
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Dorcus
No, don't you know what's happened to them? You've been asleep again.
yes I know. Weren't those people supposed to make them a great club again?
You said there has never been any evidence that he does not want to sell. Isn't the fact that he has continually pumped money into the club and that he still owns it evidence enough?
The fact that members of the board have said there is no intention to sell?
It has been reported that there have been enquiries but he hasn't sold.
What proof do you want ffs?
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xsnaggle
yes I know. Weren't those people supposed to make them a great club again?
You said there has never been any evidence that he does not want to sell. Isn't the fact that he has continually pumped money into the club and that he still owns it evidence enough?
The fact that members of the board have said there is no intention to sell?
It has been reported that there have been enquiries but he hasn't sold.
What proof do you want ffs?
FFS do you believe anything you hear?
Derby has nothing to do with us.
Quite possibly those reports of enquiries have been of offers well below what he wants and what on Earth do you expect a subjugated board to say to the Press? Everyone's got a price.
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
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Dorcus
Since I know them I can categorically say that's not true. Surely it doesn't take much effort for the guy to explain what his intentions are with the club? I know love is blind Stan but I reckon you probably agree with that.
I agree he should explain his intentions but that could be through the media he doesn't have to attend a game to confirm what his intentions are.
And the only people i love are my family not some owner of a club :thumbup:
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
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ToTaL ITK
hope your chopper is ok and those wings were tasty, but none of those are playing brizzle next week in a fight for survival are they.
Him attending the bristol game doesn't make any diffence to the result?
Has i said further up i don't care if he attends game or not but i agree that he should explain what his intentions are for the club
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
I know a lot of people who are bothered by it.
One huge difference is that few people who have put their hearts and souls into supporting a football club all their lives would just casually do their shopping elsewhere. You can do that with a retail business but it's not so easy with a football club.
So if Tan explained his plans and intentions in the media you and the lot of people you know will still be bothered by him not attending games?
Honestly i don't understand why some care if he attends i just watch the game i don't give two hoots who else is there.
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stan butler
Him attending the bristol game doesn't make any diffence to the result?
Has i said further up i don't care if he attends game or not but i agree that he should explain what his intentions are for the club
Doubt you’ll see him at Bristol but it’d be no shock to see him in the directors box at Anfield rubbing shoulders with the company he really craves, Premier League hierarchy.
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Re: Vincent Tan the White van vanished man.
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Dorcus
FFS do you believe anything you hear?
Derby has nothing to do with us.
Quite possibly those reports of enquiries have been of offers well below what he wants and what on Earth do you expect a subjugated board to say to the Press? Everyone's got a price.
no I don't believe everything I hear, specially when you're saying it.
Yes everything has it's price but that is not the same as someone actively looking to sell an asset.
You said he should let people take over with a"more professional set-up" That is what the people who took over Derby were alleged to be when they took over and look how well they've done.
As long as VT is supporting the finances of the club in these difficult times[perhaps we should just be grateful and stop knocking him for not pouring even more money in.