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.over the selfish, sod-the-little-people, Tory Christmas Party.
Kier Starmer is going to have a field day. Ah, then again..
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A Quiet Monkfish
.over the selfish, sod-the-little-people, Tory Christmas Party.
Kier Starmer is going to have a field day. Ah, then again..
Starmer was most probably on the guest list :hehe:
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There are plenty of thick people throughout the country, and more than enough on here who again will think "Funny old Boris"/"Hell of a boy"....
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For the first time in ages there was no cabinet minister doing the media rounds this morning. Thankfully ducking out of PMQs is not an option for them.
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It's typical tory but they will get away with it
The joy of government is that the people are stupid 🙄
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B. Oddie
There are plenty of thick people throughout the country, and more than enough on here who again will think "Funny old Boris"/"Hell of a boy"....
Probably. Hopefully though more people will remember not being able to meet family for xmas, not being able to go to funerals, no care home visits and dad's missing their babies being born whilst substances were (allegedly) being snorted in toilets at a jolly in Downing Street
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SLUDGE FACTORY
It's typical tory but they will get away with it
The joy of government is that the people are stupid
I think this could well be Boris's Bridge too far.
We may well have a new Prime Minister in the not too distant future
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SLUDGE FACTORY
It's typical tory but they will get away with it
The joy of government is that the people are stupid
You can say that again.
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Elwood Blues
I think this could well be Boris's Bridge too far.
We may well have a new Prime Minister in the not too distant future
I'm inclined to agree. And I don't mind him (better than the alternative in 2019) but he himself seems less and less interested now and like he needs a new project and what undoubted political talents he has (oratory, teflon, ability to engage and enthuse etc) are less in demand during things like Covid)
Thing is, politicians usually like to end on a completed project. Maybe if he gets us through winter to the spring when the latest round of Covid shite is over then there may be serious moves to replace him - presumably with Sunak.
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The Bloop
For the first time in ages there was no cabinet minister doing the media rounds this morning. Thankfully ducking out of PMQs is not an option for them.
Iain Dale does a section called Cross Question on his LBC radio show between 8 and 9 Monday to Thursday which is a discussion between representative of the various parties
According to him on twitter the Tories have just pulled Conor Burns the Minister of State for Northern Ireland from tonights program.
The wagons are circling
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JamesWales
I'm inclined to agree. And I don't mind him (better than the alternative in 2019) but he himself seems less and less interested now and like he needs a new project and what undoubted political talents he has (oratory, teflon, ability to engage and enthuse etc) are less in demand during things like Covid)
Thing is, politicians usually like to end on a completed project. Maybe if he gets us through winter to the spring when the latest round of Covid shite is over then there may be serious moves to replace him - presumably with Sunak.
...see my post above.
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The biggest opposition to the Tory Party comes from the Tory Party and Tory members. Today at PMQs Starmer has his chance to strike at an open goal. He can't mess it up surely. Will Starmer succeed? I doubt it but in reality Johnson and the Cabinet members who denied the existence of a party which flouted the rules should resign but I doubt whether it will happen. The evidence is there and this is now Starmer's chance to shine. If he doesn't then his time is up also.
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Elwood Blues
Iain Dale does a section called Cross Question on his LBC radio show between 8 and 9 Monday to Thursday which is a discussion between representative of the various parties
According to him on twitter the Tories have just pulled Conor Burns the Minister of State for Northern Ireland from tonights program.
The wagons are circling
A correspondent on Radio 4 this morning stated that government representation has been pulled across the board in respect of the media.
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JamesWales
I'm inclined to agree. And I don't mind him (better than the alternative in 2019) but he himself seems less and less interested now and like he needs a new project and what undoubted political talents he has (oratory, teflon, ability to engage and enthuse etc) are less in demand during things like Covid)
Thing is, politicians usually like to end on a completed project. Maybe if he gets us through winter to the spring when the latest round of Covid shite is over then there may be serious moves to replace him - presumably with Sunak.
He stopped being interested the day after he won the Tory vote, with a brief revival of interest when there was an election.
Some of us are old enough to remember him skipping multiple COBRA meetings when a virus was about to ravage the country.
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Taunton Blue Genie
A correspondent on Radio 4 this morning stated that government representation has been pulled across the board in respect of the media.
Where's General Custer when you need him..................
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JamesWales
I'm inclined to agree. And I don't mind him (better than the alternative in 2019) but he himself seems less and less interested now and like he needs a new project and what undoubted political talents he has (oratory, teflon, ability to engage and enthuse etc) are less in demand during things like Covid)
Interesting take, although I suspect most people will be focusing on the lies and incompetence rather than Boris' next 'project'.
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Question is what speech is he preparing right now, is he wriggling or holding his hand up doing something I don't think he has ever uttered with any feeling, "sorry".
Hoping Johnson's getting tired of being PM as has been suggested.
The bloke has no place on the TV in my living room.
My guess is his own party turns on him and he goes the same way as his mate Trump.
He needs to be publicly keel-hauled to deter his successors.
Prime Minister Johnson is a disgrace.
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B. Oddie
...see my post above.
Yes I saw your post, and many will be okay with it, although that doesn't make them thick.
Will be very interesting to see his response today at PMQs.
Heartfelt apology? Unlikely.
He wasn't there, so was he misled on the party? Possibly. In which case he sacks them all?
Will he continue to claim that there was no party at all?
Bizarre scenario
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lardy
He stopped being interested the day after he won the Tory vote, with a brief revival of interest when there was an election.
Some of us are old enough to remember him skipping multiple COBRA meetings when a virus was about to ravage the country.
Absolutely. It was all about the chase.
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Baloo
Interesting take, although I suspect most people will be focusing on the lies and incompetence rather than Boris' next 'project'.
Well, yes, undoubtedly so. And whatever else he or any other Prime Minister does with their career, after being PM it will be less interesting to people than their previous job
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Worst thing is they just don’t care/get it
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JamesWales
Yes I saw your post, and many will be okay with it, although that doesn't make them thick.
Will be very interesting to see his response today at PMQs.
Heartfelt apology? Unlikely.
He wasn't there, so was he misled on the party? Possibly. In which case he sacks them all?
Will he continue to claim that there was no party at all?
Bizarre scenario
They’re saying there was no party as it was a meeting with cheese and wine.
Trying to wriggle out of it.
If in politics you need to be holier than thou.
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As with Thatcher, it will probably be the Conservative backbenchers who will bring down Boris.
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I think it would take another Geoffrey Howe moment for him to go. One of his more senior cabinet members needs to resign and make a knife-twisting statement from the back benches , just as Howe did. Whilst all his sheep still follow, we'll be stuck with him I fear.
Who could realistically replace him? Don't think there's anyone currently in a top job on the front bench I'd want anywhere near no10. The only name I could think of is Jeremy Hunt.
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The problem the Tories have is that a lot of people only voted for them last time round because of "good old Boris". Some of them are finally seeing him for what he really is but many would still vote for him if he broke into their house and shat on their kitchen table.
Replacing him must seem like the right thing to do right now if you're a Tory backbencher, but they'll still be wondering if he's unbelievably more of an asset than a liability.
Next week's by-election could change all that.
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A Quiet Monkfish
.over the selfish, sod-the-little-people, Tory Christmas Party.
Kier Starmer is going to have a field day. Ah, then again..
Lets keep our fingers crossed he does. With luck we can be rid of the buffoon and his idiot tribe much sooner than we'd otherwise hope.
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WJ99mobile
They’re saying there was no party as it was a meeting with cheese and wine.
Trying to wriggle out of it.
If in politics you need to be holier than thou.
Some say there was plenty of coke to be had, as opposed to Pepsi. Snort snort!
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The Bloop
I think it would take another Geoffrey Howe moment for him to go. One of his more senior cabinet members needs to resign and make a knife-twisting statement from the back benches , just as Howe did. Whilst all his sheep still follow, we'll be stuck with him I fear.
Who could realistically replace him? Don't think there's anyone currently in a top job on the front bench I'd want anywhere near no10. The only name I could think of is Jeremy Hunt.
they won't rebel until the polls start to drop a few points, then you will see genuine discontent from the back benches.
the problem is they are very stubbornly sticking to almost 40% mark. this is because of the complete collapse of the parties of the right, other than the Tories, while the left is still split with labour, lib dem and greens, SNP, plaid etc
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Not saying anything we don't all know here but God help us if Covid gets to a point where lockdown is required again, a lot of people will not listen to this Government about it in the slightest and you can see why
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delmbox
Not saying anything we don't all know here but God help us if Covid gets to a point where lockdown is required again, a lot of people will not listen to this Government about it in the slightest and you can see why
I take this as a thinly veiled invitation to a party at yours?
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JamesWales
I take this as a thinly veiled invitation to a party at yours?
BYOB but nibbles provided
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I think it will be presented as an essential business meeting (which was allowed under the regs at the time) and whilst they were all gathered at number 10 anyway what difference would it make if they had a glass of wine and cheese and biscuits at the same time. Presumably it could be argued that they would have had coffee and biscuits during a business meeting anyway? Just playing the devil's advocate here BTW as I wouldn't believe such spin for a moment!
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Come on then...
What's gonna happen at PMQ's at midday?
A / Will he stick to the line that the party didn't happen? Explain the Allegra Stratton video as banter etc. Viable, just about, unless photo evidence emerged. Highly unlikely no one took a a photo if there were 40 people there, even if it was illicit. Papers would protect a source and pay them handsomely.
B / Acknowledge the party, say he was misled, have a night of the long knives moment and fire a load of people. Result is he looks stronger, at least for now. If he genuinely didn't know then this is the right thing, although it shows he doesn't know what is happening in his own backyard.
C / Admit he knew about it and misled people, explain that Covid has been hard on us all and offer to resign in the coming months and apologise for letting people down? Slim chance, honourable of sorts, would ruin his reputation and future career.
D / Push back at Labour. Highlight their inconsistencies and misdemeanours (of which there are some, but no where near as bad Covid wise) and accuse them of trying to undermine trust in the government and put lives at risk with a story that is a year old etc?
I can't think of a realistic alternative option.
I'm Voting for A, followed by D. Option B would be fun.
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JamesWales
Come on then...
What's gonna happen at PMQ's at midday?
A / Will he stick to the line that the party didn't happen? Explain the Allegra Stratton video as banter etc. Viable, just about, unless photo evidence emerged. Highly unlikely no one took a a photo if there were 40 people there, even if it was illicit. Papers would protect a source and pay them handsomely.
B / Acknowledge the party, say he was misled, have a night of the long knives moment and fire a load of people. Result is he looks stronger, at least for now. If he genuinely didn't know then this is the right thing, although it shows he doesn't know what is happening in his own backyard.
C / Admit he knew about it and misled people, explain that Covid has been hard on us all and offer to resign in the coming months and apologise for letting people down? Slim chance.
D / Push back at Labour. Highlight their inconsistencies and misdemeanours (of which there are some, but no where near as bad Covid wise) and accuse them of trying to undermine trust in the government and put lives at risk with a story that is a year old etc?
I can't think of a realistic alternative option.
I'm Voting for A, followed by D. Option B would be fun.
None of the those. See my theory above.
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Gofer Blue
None of the those. See my theory above.
Good theory. I am classing your prediction as Option A1 - a subset of Option A :)
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JamesWales
I'm inclined to agree. And I don't mind him (better than the alternative in 2019) but he himself seems less and less interested now and like he needs a new project and what undoubted political talents he has (oratory, teflon, ability to engage and enthuse etc) are less in demand during things like Covid)
Oratory talents? Like his rousing Peppa Pig speech? I can't think of anything he's said that's inspiring or comforting or whatever else he's supposed to do. His only political skills are scheming his way up the greasy pole (of which he's done very well) and the only project he likes is his career.
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JamesWales
Come on then...
What's gonna happen at PMQ's at midday?
A / Will he stick to the line that the party didn't happen? Explain the Allegra Stratton video as banter etc. Viable, just about, unless photo evidence emerged. Highly unlikely no one took a a photo if there were 40 people there, even if it was illicit. Papers would protect a source and pay them handsomely.
B / Acknowledge the party, say he was misled, have a night of the long knives moment and fire a load of people. Result is he looks stronger, at least for now. If he genuinely didn't know then this is the right thing, although it shows he doesn't know what is happening in his own backyard.
C / Admit he knew about it and misled people, explain that Covid has been hard on us all and offer to resign in the coming months and apologise for letting people down? Slim chance, honourable of sorts, would ruin his reputation and future career.
D / Push back at Labour. Highlight their inconsistencies and misdemeanours (of which there are some, but no where near as bad Covid wise) and accuse them of trying to undermine trust in the government and put lives at risk with a story that is a year old etc?
I can't think of a realistic alternative option.
I'm Voting for A, followed by D. Option B would be fun.
E/ Obfuscation and incoherent babblings indispersed with anecdotes about Lego and Greek mythology.
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Option F - Completely ignore it and announce a full national lockdown
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A Quiet Monkfish
.over the selfish, sod-the-little-people, Tory Christmas Party.
Kier Starmer is going to have a field day. Ah, then again..
Strong rumours the same thing happened in cardiff bay with Kim jong Drakeford
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Sadly he may go and Rishi Sunak will step up , and the anti Boris vote will go with him , that will give Starmer a much harder task .
The electorate will decide at the next election but we do need to see or hear some new vision to attract votes to switch .
It must be hard though for those who lost relatives to Covid without seeing them as they did abide by the rules.