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Where the feck has that been for the last few months?
Crazy. Great performance, deserved win, completely unexpected. When we went behind I didn't expect a comeback but would have been happy that we'd at least had a go.
Bulut - that's the way we like it, none of the defensive shit that has cost us a shot at the playoffs, but good attacking football. Hopefully he's learned!
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Eric the Half a Bee
Crazy. Great performance, deserved win, completely unexpected. When we went behind I didn't expect a comeback but would have been happy that we'd at least had a go.
Bulut - that's the way we like it, none of the defensive shit that has cost us a shot at the playoffs, but good attacking football. Hopefully he's learned!
A brilliant, brilliant result. However, we only attacked in the first twenty minutes and in the ten minutes of injury time. For most of the remaining 70 minutes we sat back and invited Ipswich on.
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2b2bdoo
Confidence.
It's not just that.
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The football quality has been there. Just end product was not and not the possession stats that dazzle. It is still 70% through first season for Bulut. You have to allow for growth. And defences win games. Good defence been there for a month.
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Keyser Soze
The football quality has been there
Don't talk nonsense.
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2b2bdoo
Confidence.
Less pressure….
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Eric the Half a Bee
It's not just that.
I think that’s a massive part of it.
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Eric the Half a Bee
Crazy. Great performance, deserved win, completely unexpected. When we went behind I didn't expect a comeback but would have been happy that we'd at least had a go.
Bulut - that's the way we like it, none of the defensive shit that has cost us a shot at the playoffs, but good attacking football. Hopefully he's learned!
Ah feck off mun!
That today wasn't just about one performance :facepalm:
This victory was built up from basics over a long period of time.
Good performances stem from being tight, defensively we have become hard to beat and the introduction of Philips and Wilson-E at lleft back in January has made us harder to break down.
Feck me Eric, you sonehow make a victory sound like we've lost.
You make it sound like you think Bulut read your ramblings and thought "ah sod it, I'll do what Eric says and see what happens" :hehe:
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The passing and ball control has been there, just not opening defences at will. Clearly you are chatting as much as watching. The signs have been building for a month as it begins to click.
I just think you are one of those that expects everything to perfect, clear and obvious before you put your neck out and make a prediction.
Just admit you got it wrong and don’t be a SourPuss. I can easily forget if you can. We are all fans here. Trying to still pick away at crumbs just makes you look anal and pedantic.
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Crazy. Great performance, deserved win, completely unexpected. When we went behind I didn't expect a comeback but would have been happy that we'd at least had a go.
Bulut - that's the way we like it, none of the defensive shit that has cost us a shot at the playoffs, but good attacking football. Hopefully he's learned!
amen....
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Maurice Swan
amen....
Nice one Mo, right on cue :thumbup:
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i was very surprised the way they played , maybe i should not have been.
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Keyser Soze
The passing and ball control has been there, just not opening defences at will. Clearly you are chatting as much as watching. The signs have been building for a month as it begins to click.
I just think you are one of those that expects everything to perfect, clear and obvious before you put your neck out and make a prediction.
Just admit you got it wrong and don’t be a SourPuss. I can easily forget if you can. We are all fans here. Trying to still pick away at crumbs just makes you look anal and pedantic.
Too much watching Sky and their endless array of statistics on everything down to how many times the left back farts during away games!
It's the same with all these analysts and armchair fans.
Go to a game and experience the joys of what probably might not happen but could.... like today!
What a win :ayatollah:
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MacAdder
Ah feck off mun!
That today wasn't just about one performance :facepalm:
This victory was built up from basics over a long period of time.
Good performances stem from being tight, defensively we have become hard to beat and the introduction of Philips and Wilson-E at lleft back in January has made us harder to break down.
Feck me Eric, you sonehow make a victory sound like we've lost.
You make it sound like you think Bulut read your ramblings and thought "ah sod it, I'll do what Eric says and see what happens" :hehe:
Exactly. 3 of our back 5 are new players and now that they've gelled we look extremely solid. That solid foundation allows the front 6 to play football, which is what is happening.
Horvath looks to be our best keeper since Etheridge. Wilson-Esbrand and Phillips are steeped in the cultures of what are now the two best clubs in the world. Amazing signings and who knows what will happen come May?
The playoffs will be a distinct possibility if we don't lose against the Jacks next week.
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Bulut builds off a stong (defensive) base, when the quality arrived O'Dowda and Rubes we looked different. Having a footballer at left back has helped the progression up the feild as the kid is comfortable with the ball. He has settled on wintle as the single defensive midfeilder and Turnball oozzes compuresure on the ball when we do move it.
If Keiffer was playing for us that would have been very comfortable, but Meite was immense
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Question for those better than me (so anyone really) just saw the replay of Moore's goal - could it have been called for offside in terms of coming from an off side and recieving the ball straight away??
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MacAdder
Nice one Mo, right on cue :thumbup:
I just realised I have an unfortunate surname here....
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It's been building. If done properly, these things take time. The shame is that we have to rebuild all over again this summer.
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Nobody's Rep
Question for those better than me (so anyone really) just saw the replay of Moore's goal - could it have been called for offside in terms of coming from an off side and recieving the ball straight away??
I thought exactly the same thing, but I think I City player touched it when he was on side and perhaps that negated the off side. Perhaps someone on here can enlighten us.
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Maybe we would have been even higher if we hadn’t been so negative for 6 months. Just shows what can happen when you are more positive in approach. I can’t buy this Bulut master plan garbage. We’ve been watching utter crap since October and today was a huge step forward.
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There's some right bollocks in this thread. Talk about over thinking things. Bulut made the subs, got the wide men higher up the pitch and left a bit of space between the central midfielders and our defence. We just played higher, because we were 1 down until the 95th minute or whatever it was. He's done it before, today it just worked a treat. Well done Erol and the players, although at no point did we play through Ipswich. That ain't never gonna happen. Big up Wintle.
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Because tactics and systems take months to sink in when you aren’t a Liverpool or Man City. The big changes were Horvath, Phillips and Ebrands to shore up the defence, but back four units, centre half partnerships and links / comms between keeper and defence take time.
To anchor your entire expectations around what was happening in Sep-November, in Bulut’s early months, is the definition of insanity.
Football rarely works that way.
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MacAdder
Ah feck off mun!
That today wasn't just about one performance :facepalm:
This victory was built up from basics over a long period of time.
Good performances stem from being tight, defensively we have become hard to beat and the introduction of Philips and Wilson-E at lleft back in January has made us harder to break down.
Feck me Eric, you sonehow make a victory sound like we've lost.
You make it sound like you think Bulut read your ramblings and thought "ah sod it, I'll do what Eric says and see what happens" :hehe:
Not sure how pissed you were when you wrote that, but this is a place where we chat about City. I feel there's an amount of unnecessary gloating here when we're all in the same boat, celebrating a City win.
Based on your post, we should now be playing even better football game after game and end up winning promotion. Lovely dream.
Today I saw an effort, willingness to get forward and a speed of thought that we haven't shown for months. As I've said, if we'd not won that I'd have seen more positivity than we've had for ages and been happy. As it was we showed lots of hunger and desire late on to turn things around. Coming back like that isn't about laying defensive foundations, it's about character. It's why we've scored so often from set pieces. It's why we've won so many points late on in games.
No amount of training in the last few weeks has brought about today's performance. It felt, from the first whistle, that Bulut had told them to have a go. Maybe he felt this was the time. They certainly didn't have a go like that against Leicester or Leeds.
I'm expecting the same next weekend.
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Dave Blue
Maybe we would have been even higher if we hadn’t been so negative for 6 months. Just shows what can happen when you are more positive in approach. I can’t buy this Bulut master plan garbage. We’ve been watching utter crap since October and today was a huge step forward.
Indeed.
More to the point, let's all get behind this huge step forward. Today is for celebrating a rare win in recent years over a top 2 side, not "I was right".
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MacAdder
Too much watching Sky and their endless array of statistics on everything down to how many times the left back farts during away games!
It's the same with all these analysts and armchair fans.
Go to a game and experience the joys of what probably might not happen but could.... like today!
What a win :ayatollah:
I'm with you here.
The stuff posted on here , by people I expect have been watching Cardiff for a generation has been pathetic recently .
Its championship football , Man City we arent. What a brilliant game of football today, if you didnt enjoy that , try knitting on a Saturday afternoon . We wont win every game ,imagine Bulut is building something here .
There have been moans about one nil wins , FFS from losing to winning is a massive step , bring on the Jacks...
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Keyser Soze
Because tactics and systems take months to sink in when you aren’t a Liverpool or Man City. The big changes were Horvath, Phillips and Ebrands to shore up the defence, but back four units, centre half partnerships and links / comms between keeper and defence take time.
To anchor your entire expectations around what was happening in Sep-November, in Bulut’s early months, is the definition of insanity.
Football rarely works that way.
But you keep suggesting that today was just a continuation. I think that's bollocks. Today saw a drive and ambition that doesn't just happen when it hasn't happened for months
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Eric the Half a Bee
Not sure how pissed you were when you wrote that, but this is a place where we chat about City. I feel there's an amount of unnecessary gloating here when we're all in the same boat, celebrating a City win.
Based on your post, we should now be playing even better football game after game and end up winning promotion. Lovely dream.
Today I saw an effort, willingness to get forward and a speed of thought that we haven't shown for months. As I've said, if we'd not won that I'd have seen more positivity than we've had for ages and been happy. As it was we showed lots of hunger and desire late on to turn things around. Coming back like that isn't about laying defensive foundations, it's about character. It's why we've scored so often from set pieces. It's why we've won so many points late on in games.
No amount of training in the last few weeks has brought about today's performance. It felt, from the first whistle, that Bulut had told them to have a go. Maybe he felt this was the time. They certainly didn't have a go like that against Leicester or Leeds.
I'm expecting the same next weekend.
People are entrenched in there views, they struggle to deviate from them. **** knows why. I suppose it makes them feel better to be right about something. I don't rate Bulut that highly, but he is playing a system, some of us don't like it, including me, but when it works then I have to give credit, same for players I don't rate. Problem on here is that people can't admit when they're wrong, it figures I suppose. If we can acknowledge people when they get something right then any criticism given when it goes to shit holds more strength. It's difficult on here though as people take their position and hold it, even when they're wrong.
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Tuerto
People are entrenched in there views, they struggle to deviate from them. **** knows why. I suppose it makes them feel better to be right about something. I don't rate Bulut that highly, but he is playing a system, some of us don't like it, including me, but when it works then I have to give credit, same for players I don't rate. Problem on here is that people can't admit when they're wrong, it figures I suppose. If we can acknowledge people when they get something right then any criticism given when it goes to shit holds more strength. It's difficult on here though as people take their position and hold it, even when they're wrong.
Fantastic result, great performance, from start to finish
Bulut got that absolutely right today 👍👏👏👏
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Eric the Half a Bee
But you keep suggesting that today was just a continuation. I think that's bollocks. Today saw a drive and ambition that doesn't just happen when it hasn't happened for months
Of course it’s bollox, that was a different team today to the one we’ve watched since the first game against the wurzels, but it’s still true to say that for about two thirds of the match it looked like the height of our ambitions was a 0-0 draw. Great credit to both manager and team for chasing the win at 1-1 though - everything I’d seen from us in the last twenty odd games before today suggested we weren’t going to do that.
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Tuerto
There's some right bollocks in this thread. Talk about over thinking things. Bulut made the subs, got the wide men higher up the pitch and left a bit of space between the central midfielders and our defence. We just played higher, because we were 1 down until the 95th minute or whatever it was. He's done it before, today it just worked a treat. Well done Erol and the players, although at no point did we play through Ipswich. That ain't never gonna happen. Big up Wintle.
This. Anyone that doesn't rate him at this level is tripping.
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After 30 games in a new league, a different football culture I think he has got our midfield balance right.
We had no replacement for Ramsey's composure, he obviously adds more but we didn't-have anyone to just give the ball to without fearing he'd turn it over. Then we get Turnbull he gets fitter and starts to understand his teammates. Rubin is the reverse of Turnbull both are class on the ball but Rubes try's crazy things because he is an all out attack machine.
Bulut also has sussed that Sio isn't a 6 in this league so it is probably him or Ralls as the top of the double pivot and pushed them 10 yards further up the pitch.
We also have a footballer at left back which allows Grant to push further up and O'Dowda is classes above Bowler and Tanner.
I believe Bulut is getting hold of this league and its requirements
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olderblue
Fantastic result, great performance, from start to finish
Bulut got that absolutely right today 👍👏👏👏
Of course he did. The plan was to concede late on and score twice deep into injury time.
Never again will I knock Bulut's tactics. Genius!
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olderblue
Fantastic result, great performance, from start to finish
Bulut got that absolutely right today 👍👏👏👏
:thumbup:
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Eric the Half a Bee
Of course he did. The plan was to concede late on and score twice deep into injury time.
Never again will I knock Bulut's tactics. Genius!
Behave you daft twat, we won, and beat a very good side
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Eric the Half a Bee
Of course he did. The plan was to concede late on and score twice deep into injury time.
Never again will I knock Bulut's tactics. Genius!
Bulut 2.1 ✔️
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olderblue
Behave you daft twat, we won, and beat a very good side
Sarcasm never works well in text!
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Eric the Half a Bee
Of course he did. The plan was to concede late on and score twice deep into injury time.
Never again will I knock Bulut's tactics. Genius!
Funny as feck this LOL
None so blind as those that will not see :facepalm:
Do a TLG and have rest ffs :ayatollah:
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Eric the Half a Bee
Sarcasm never works well in text!
I’ve been critical of Bulut, and certainly critical of some of our players, Wintle especially
But today we played in a positive manner, could have been 2 or 3 up at half time and gave it our best shot.
Tough call today to name a MOTM as there were so many contenders, although I would go for Siopis just, over Wintle
I don’t think anyone there today was bored shitless, the team gave a performance from the first minute and got the backing of the crowd straight away
Great performance
Great result
Can’t wait for next Saturday