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Ukraine Losses (Allegedly)
302 aircraft
212 Helicopters
2751 (S) UAV
6320 Tanks and Armoured Vehicles
7361 Howitzer (Artillery Systems )
497 Air Defence Systems
157,000 dead
234,000 injured
17,230 captive
234 NATO military trainers
2458 NATO soldiers
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what's the source for that?
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
302 aircraft
212 Helicopters
2751 (S) UAV
6320 Tanks and Armoured Vehicles
7361 Howitzer (Artillery Systems )
497 Air Defence Systems
157,000 dead
234,000 injured
17,230 captive
234 NATO military trainers
2458 NATO soldiers
What are those stats for the Russians?
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
What are those stats for the Russians?
Ukraine losses, the sooner it’s resolved the better ,( wrong board though )
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Rjk
what's the source for that?
Source: pro-russian citizen journalist RUNews
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Yes, I was asking how many have the Russians lost, I hear reports that Ukraine can win, but it doesn't seem logical, Putin won't give up and with his oil/gas money could keep this going forever.
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lardy
A lot of nonsense then, these made-up types of news stories are believed by so many people these days.
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Source: pro-russian citizen journalist RUNews
As I said allegedly, would be interesting to know though as nothing gets released
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lardy
Source: pro-russian citizen journalist RUNews
I didn’t get it from that , if you want the source I’ll PM you
Also as it’s not from a western media outlet, then clearly it’s false :sherlock:
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
I didn’t get it from that , if you want the source I’ll PM you
You have an odd obsession with PMs. Just put it on here if you want to share it.
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TWGL1
I didn’t get it from that , if you want the source I’ll PM you
Also as it’s not from a western media outlet, then clearly it’s false :sherlock:
Why not mention it here?
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lardy
You have an odd obsession with PMs. Just put it on here if you want to share it.
No obsession that said you appear to have an obsession with anyone who has a different opinion to you don’t you ?
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North Cardiff Blue
A lot of nonsense then, these made-up types of news stories are believed by so many people these days.
Incredible really, but having the entirety of human knowledge in your pocket has actually made us collectively dumber.
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lardy
Incredible really, but having the entirety of human knowledge in your pocket has actually made us collectively dumber.
Either way what ever the statistics it needs to be resolved sooner rather than later doesn’t it.
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TWGL1
No obsession that said you appear to have an obsession with anyone who has a different opinion to you don’t you ?
I correct fake news, rather than let it fester.
Quite weird that you think incorrect statistics are an "opinion".
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Eric the Half a Bee
Why not mention it here?
All he’s doing by not putting the source of his information on here is revealing that he has doubts about it himself.
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As I said I posted allegedly , but from what I’ve read they appear realistic, sadly
If you have statistics that are more on point, perhaps you could offer an alternative view
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TWGL1
As I said I posted allegedly , but from what I’ve read they appear realistic, sadly
If you have statistics that are more on point, perhaps you could offer an alternative view
It's obviously nonsense all the news has been about how many troops and weapons the Russians have lost, unfortunately, Putin doesn't care and just signs up more reservists or conscripts more people.
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the other bob wilson
All he’s doing by not putting the source of his information on here is revealing that he has doubts about it himself.
He got it from the Ifunny site
https://ifunny.co/picture/russian-ma...aine-x9MpbwSFA
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North Cardiff Blue
It's obviously nonsense all the news has been about how many troops and weapons the Russians have lost, unfortunately, Putin doesn't care and just signs up more reservists or conscripts more people.
Not sure how much the UK has pumped in , however they US alone has pumped US $100 billion into Ukraine with Russia still not backing down. Even with the obvious money laundering, if the proxies in Ukraine were winning then why do they need so much money constantly?
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I see ifunny has now deleted the video but it is still showing on Russian market twitter site
https://twitter.com/runews
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TWGL1
Not sure how much the UK has pumped in , however they US alone has pumped US $100 billion into Ukraine with Russia still not backing down. Even with the obvious money laundering, if the proxies in Ukraine were winning then why do they need so much money constantly?
is also a talking point that is unsurprisingly being pushed by Kremlin social media mouthpieces.
strange how all these free thinkers fail to see how they're just dancing to someone else's tune
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Rjk
is also a talking point that is unsurprisingly being pushed by Kremlin social media mouthpieces.
strange how all these free thinkers fail to see how they're just dancing to someone else's tune
It’s also a talking point in western media outlets as well ….. Ultimately it’s gone on for far too long with billions being pumped in with no apparent end in sight.
Goodness knows what the Russian casualty count is, I’m surprised a peaceful deal hasn’t been brokered.
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
302 aircraft
212 Helicopters
2751 (S) UAV
6320 Tanks and Armoured Vehicles
7361 Howitzer (Artillery Systems )
497 Air Defence Systems
157,000 dead
234,000 injured
17,230 captive
234 NATO military trainers
2458 NATO soldiers
What has happened to 234 NATO military trainers and 2458 NATO soldiers?
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
is also a talking point that is unsurprisingly being pushed by Kremlin social media mouthpieces.
strange how all these free thinkers fail to see how they're just dancing to someone else's tune
Aren't you also dancing to someone else's tune? Just on the other side?
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
is also a talking point that is unsurprisingly being pushed by Kremlin social media mouthpieces.
strange how all these free thinkers fail to see how they're just dancing to someone else's tune
Possibly coming from the Pentagon too (allegedly).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEBPqWf1k3o
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Wales-Bales
And Israeli secret service ( allegedly)
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Wales-Bales
Don't fret. We all make mistakes. You're secrets safe with me (allegedly)!
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North Cardiff Blue
Yes, I was asking how many have the Russians lost, I hear reports that Ukraine can win, but it doesn't seem logical, Putin won't give up and with his oil/gas money could keep this going forever.
He’s going to run out of troops at some point…..haven’t they lost more than Ukraine? Naturally they wont admit it.
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
Not sure how much the UK has pumped in , however they US alone has pumped US $100 billion into Ukraine with Russia still not backing down. Even with the obvious money laundering, if the proxies in Ukraine were winning then why do they need so much money constantly?
£100 billion pumped into officially the 2nd most corrupt nation on earth.
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A Quiet Monkfish
£100 billion pumped into officially the 2nd most corrupt nation on earth.
I must admit I've never seen an Official World Corruption Table. I saw something called a perceptions index but nothing that had Ukraine officially or otherwise where you state. Still being 116 on a list of 180 countries still makes a valid point.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrup...0%E2%80%932022
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A Quiet Monkfish
£100 billion pumped into officially the 2nd most corrupt nation on earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDV7AHVAMDw
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cyril evans awaydays
I must admit I've never seen an Official World Corruption Table. I saw something called a perceptions index but nothing that had Ukraine officially or otherwise where you state. Still being 116 on a list of 180 countries still makes a valid point.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrup...0%E2%80%932022
Correct - meant 'Europe'
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Wales-Bales
:hehe:
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
302 aircraft
212 Helicopters
2751 (S) UAV
6320 Tanks and Armoured Vehicles
7361 Howitzer (Artillery Systems )
497 Air Defence Systems
157,000 dead
234,000 injured
17,230 captive
234 NATO military trainers
2458 NATO soldiers
If these figures are true, then what an appalling loss of human life for what? Also yet more £billions wasted on weapons of war reduced to scrap metal and undoubtedly more £billions to be spent on replacements. I wonder how many billions have been wasted in wars and subsequent rebuilding of infrastructure over the last 110 years or so alone i.e. WW1 to the present day. Enough to have found a cure for cancer and other diseases several times over probably. God forgive us.
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Gofer Blue
:hehe:
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has come under fire for publishing and then unpublishing a video containing what appears to be a very high estimate of killed Ukrainian military officers.
The backlash came after von der Leyen said in a video message on Wednesday (30 November) that an estimated 120,000 Ukrainians had been killed during Russia’s war.
“It is estimated that 20,000 civilians and more than 100,000 Ukrainian military officers have been killed so far,” von der Leyen said in the original version of the video, reshared later by Twitter users.
This was November 2022 and there have been apparently three digit losses daily since then
https://www.euractiv.com/section/eur...oss-estimates/
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has come under fire for publishing and then unpublishing a video containing what appears to be a very high estimate of killed Ukrainian military officers.
The backlash came after von der Leyen said in a video message on Wednesday (30 November) that an estimated 120,000 Ukrainians had been killed during Russia’s war.
“It is estimated that 20,000 civilians and more than 100,000 Ukrainian military officers have been killed so far,” von der Leyen said in the original version of the video, reshared later by Twitter users.
This was November 2022 and there have been apparently three digit losses daily since then
https://www.euractiv.com/section/eur...oss-estimates/
Just for the record, your inclusion of the quote from my post (:hehe:) was my response to the Biden/spy balloon video. Hope no-one thought I was laughing at the (allegedly) very serious data you presented.
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TWGL1
:thumbup:
Thanks. :thumbup: