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Awful. Steve Dale should be hung the kunt. As for the fit and proper persons check it's an absolute joke, the league should be answerable
Blame ultimately is on Dale and the previous owners of Bury for their mis-management but the EFL and former chief Shaun Harvey should be made to answer for their part in this.
Sure I read the other day that there would still be a 14 day period for this to take effect but the bbc post looks quite final.
Bury have had their 14 days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trigger
Disgusting and disgraceful and for me a wake up moment for British football.
Awful for everyone involved with the club. The fans who cannot affect it but would die for the club. The local businesses who will suffer. The community who loses a part of its soul.
Sickening for the fans and the staff.
Football is dead as we know it.
Ridiculous that this can happen in an era where money is swimming in football.
Does anyone know what league the club would have to start playing in?
I heard on the radio tonight Bury owed 2 million in business rates.
Not much to the Premier league but insermountable to a lower league side.
May the phoenix club rise quickly
Yea I was thinking there was further time from this point but seems not and I may have read Bolton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
Hope they can at the very least save the club.
I don’t mind admitting that I’ve just shed a few tears. This is just sickening. In 2007 I found myself in a little bother at Charlton and ended up with a 4 year football banning order of which I served 2 years and 8 months. Let me tell you that so much changes. Without the football your social structure changes. What will these amazing fans do? And I do mean amazing. With so many glamour clubs on the doorstep the Bury fans show full allegiance to their local club and this is all being taken away for what? One week’s wages for Alexis Sanchez. We all know the game has gone to the gutter but this is just so desperate. Can nothing be done? Words fail me. Don’t let the fans suffer for the mismanagement of the so-called money men. The EFL should be hauled before the courts to explain how they properly check and accept the owners of all clubs from each and every level of football.
I've heard a couple of interviews with him in recent weeks and he sounds a right it's everyone else's fault merchant - the truly bizarre thing is that this has happened on the back of a promotion season.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehumblegringo
The talk was as I was driving home from tonight's game that there were four new offers on the table and it seems wrong to me that the EFL could not extend their deadline by forty eight hours to see if anything could be done to sort a deal out, but I suppose I don't know all of the details and I'm just looking at it from the perspective of someone who is very sad to see a team go under like this.
There's nothing that can be said to make Bury fans feel better tonight - they are the innocents in this, yet they will be suffering far more than any of the money men.
So sad. I had a very nice day out there in May 1976 when we won 1-0 to get promoted back to Division 2. Terrible news for the club, but Aldershot and Newport formed Phoenix clubs and got back up the leagues so hopefully Bury can do the same. I hope more for a EFL reprieve and maybe an appeal which they'll reconsider they're action. The EFL must shoulder some of the blame for this happening. And Bolton could go next and they literally a few miles apart , 6 to be exact. It's like me being and Pontypridd and having a local rival in Taff's Well. I hope Bolton get out it and hope than Bury can recover. How must those fans be at the moment?
:hehe: but I agree entirely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenith
Football clubs should not adopt corporate form really, or at least not traditional corporate form. The purpose of a company is to make money for the shareholders. That should not be the purpose of a football club, which should be to strive to achieve the best long-term football league and cup performances for the club, within its means. Change the purpose of football clubs back to the true spirit of sport and force owners to run them as such. The football league is a disgrace to have allowed this to happen. The company running the club and owning the registration can go bust, but the club should survive in its own right with the football league itself taking control on a temporary basis if necessary. Insane really. God I hate so much about football. Playing it? Brilliant. The rest is wank.
It wouldn't be far fetched to estimate that the annual Premier League players' wage bill is around £2.5billion. Gives some sort of context.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Dargavel
Football is now a business, not a sport in which you've hit the nail on the head with that post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick
The odd thing is as a business it's an absolute joke with the majority of clubs in debt and unable to make the revenue to ever reduce it. Opportunistic vultures will always wait and scavenge around a dying corpse ready to pick it off. It's no wonder some of the clubs owners and administrators seemingly lack any moral or emotional attachment to the clubs they manage.
Bury and Bolton are just the tip of the iceberg.
I echo the sentiment above
Really sad day for Bury fans and a worrying one the whole of football.
To think how much angst the change of our colours caused, I don't think anyone can comprehend just how the Bury fans feel.
Football as we all know it has been broken for quite a while now and this was always going to happen, unluckily for poor Bury, it's happened to them.
I hope the EFL know what they are doing and their actions part of a great master plan but from what has gone on so far, it doesn't look like it.
There have been so many teetering, us included. You fear that once one or two go, especially so close to each other, then the dominoes could tumble.
The EFL are an absolute disgrace. Steve Day and Steve Dale are an absolute disgrace but both were allowed to buy Bury with minimal checks. Steve Dale has owned 51 companies, and 43 have gone to the wall. Not one check was made by the EFL on Steve Dale, and there should have been multiple red flags around Steve Day. This all falls at the feet of Shaun Harvey, the master of falling upwards. The blood is on his hands.
Shocking state of affairs. The EFL need to have a complete overhaul of the scrutiny that these owners go through because right now it's not for for purpose. People are not only losing their football clubs but their livelihoods as well.
If Shinawatra can pass it, it needs an overhaul :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by thehumblegringo
The way Sky Sports News covered it was very disrespectful and cheap. They were sensationalising it without real regard for the employees of the club who are about to lose their jobs.
Sky are the cancer that will kill football.Quote:
Originally Posted by B. Oddie
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Originally Posted by B. Oddie
Even wheeled Jim White out for it like it was transfer deadline day.
Kents.
Classless wankers.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bob Banker Spanker
That countdown stunt by Sky Sports was tasteless.
Interesting coments from the Accrington owner this morning who outlined some of the debt and there's no way Bury was going to survive. Initial talks that it needed a couple of million went out the window when people looked at the books.
He estimates it would need more than £10m to pay off the known debts and there's no way they could recoup that money as a football club.
What I don't know is who has control of the ground and the car park which I guess could be used as part of a property deal. It would be a further outrage if Day or Dale make anything from this. Dale's daugters partner is involved in buying a £7.5m debt for £70k and then trying to claim it's now worth millions.
And to think thay are allowed to be so fraudulant in plain sight.
https://twitter.com/AndyhHolt/status...12123503538179
Hit the nail on the head there, this exactly the reason I’m fast falling out of love with the game. How can you have a player earning more than it takes to save a whole football club, the whole system is rotten to the core. Last year in the Prem only highlighted it to me. Things can’t keep going like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Dargavel
And there lies the biggest problemQuote:
Originally Posted by The Bob Banker Spanker
Sky or money. Both destroying it slowly. 2 weeks of Sanchez wages at united have buried buryQuote:
Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick
Horrible news. The EFL should be ashamed at their appalling lack of oversight. The EPL should be doing more to support the pyramid below them too.